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[Diablo2020]

I realize that. But the ducks are not a team that will spend to the cap.
mactavish an rfa this year
gauthier, carlsson, lacombe, mintyukov etc the year after

perfect time and team to hit with an offer this year, then again next year

They have 75m in salary right now today on a 88m cap on a non playoff team.

Lets say they keep 13m next year as well and dont spend to the ceiling, they still have to spend 25+ million and only have Dostal and Lundestrom as key RFAs along with McTavish.

They will not only be keeping their young talent while still setting themselves up nicely for Gauthier, Carlsson, Lacombe and Minty deals, they will probably be a bigger player for UFAs than we can or will be too.

Fans just think these teams stockpiling young talent plan on being mid forever I guess.

Its time to start fearing anaheim and columbus types people!

 

[Bgav]

Can’t see them doing anything good enough to make this team a contender. Mushy middle for at least two more years. Hopefully they luck out and draft a future star forward this draft

edit: Flames committing to a rebuild trading almost everyone last season and finishing ahead of the Canucks this season is f***ing hilarious.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I really don’t like the Lankinen extension.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Can’t seem them doing anything good enough to make this team a contender. Mushy middle for at least two more years. Hopefully they luck out and draft a future star forward this draft

edit: Flames committing to a rebuild trading almost everyone last season and finishing ahead of the Canucks this season is f***ing hilarious.

I think our defense is shaping up to be extremely good next season and on. I think that our blueline being a train wreck outside of Hughes/Hronek for the first half of this season is one of the key reasons this season is bordering on lost.

Our goaltending should be average with Lankinen (if Demko manages a return to form and staying healthy, it could be elite).

But we have significant gaps up front, which look to get worse if/when Boeser leaves. Petey returning to form would help, but we need a couple of top line players. And I don’t see a lot available that look like likely free agent, or trade, candidates.

 

[theguardianII]

I think our defense is shaping up to be extremely good next season and on. I think that our blueline being a train wreck outside of Hughes/Hronek for the first half of this season is one of the key reasons this season is bordering on lost.

Our goaltending should be average with Lankinen (if Demko manages a return to form and staying healthy, it could be elite).

But we have significant gaps up front, which look to get worse if/when Boeser leaves. Petey returning to form would help, but we need a couple of top line players. And I don’t see a lot available that look like likely free agent, or trade, candidates.

And Utah just caught the Canucks, well one point back, they beat Tampa. And the Ducks get Carolina in a 2nd of a back to back tomorrow after the Canes got hammered by LA today. The Ducks could be within 6 points and the Canucks have injuries.

 

[Bgav]

I think our defense is shaping up to be extremely good next season and on. I think that our blueline being a train wreck outside of Hughes/Hronek for the first half of this season is one of the key reasons this season is bordering on lost.

Our goaltending should be average with Lankinen (if Demko manages a return to form and staying healthy, it could be elite).

But we have significant gaps up front, which look to get worse if/when Boeser leaves. Petey returning to form would help, but we need a couple of top line players. And I don’t see a lot available that look like likely free agent, or trade, candidates.

The defense looks pretty solid, but when you step back and look at the whole team, they feel miles away from Colorado, Dallas, or Vegas. You can't keep patching things up forever—you need a steady flow of prospects. We’re lacking that because the owner doesn’t care about draft picks. This franchise thinks waiting 2–3 years for prospects to develop is pointless, and they also think accumulating picks as currency is stupid

 

[Canuckle1970]

You look at Vegas' current roster and only 3 were drafted, all the rest are trades and FA's. Granted, they had an incredible start with that expansion draft, but they've been no slouches when it comes to aquiring talent to fit their needs.

I think we're headed in the right direction on D, but need forwards with speed, talent and grit. So easy, isn't it?

 

[Coffee]

You look at Vegas' current roster and only 3 were drafted, all the rest are trades and FA's. Granted, they had an incredible start with that expansion draft, but they've been no slouches when it comes to aquiring talent to fit their needs.

I think we're headed in the right direction on D, but need forwards with speed, talent and grit. So easy, isn't it?

Not easy at all, they did get the defence fixed. I'm not worried if I'm Bgav and the Canucks

 

[Bgav]

Not easy at all, they did get the defence fixed. I'm not worried if I'm Bgav and the Canucks

I'm worried homie

 

[Canuckle1970]

Not easy at all, they did get the defence fixed. I'm not worried if I'm Bgav and the Canucks

I thought it was clear, but I edited my post to add the sarcasm emoji.

 

[Coffee]

I thought it was clear, but I edited my post to add the sarcasm emoji.

No I knew you were joking, I just missed a word in my post

 

[Bleach Clean]

The defense looks pretty solid, but when you step back and look at the whole team, they feel miles away from Colorado, Dallas, or Vegas. You can't keep patching things up forever—you need a steady flow of prospects. We’re lacking that because the owner doesn’t care about draft picks. This franchise thinks waiting 2–3 years for prospects to develop is pointless, and they also think accumulating picks as currency is stupid

They do use picks as currency: The 1st for Miller went to get MPetey.

But they are shuffling deck chairs here. Converting one strength into another is a zero sum game. Their best assets in are not better than their best assets out imo.

It's also too late for a slower re-tool. Management chose to be ultra aggressive right from the start: A mistake given what they had.

Now it's 'rabbit out of the hat' time. Let's see what they do?

I really don’t like the Lankinen extension.

I've refrained from commenting on it, but I agree. Lankinen saved their season, but he's not a starter they can build with.

It's Demko or bust.

 

[arttk]

I really don’t like the Lankinen extension.

He played like 9/10 games or at like a 70 game pace. I think if he plays at the same pace again next year then it means Demko is 100% cooked.

 

[arttk]

They do use picks as currency: The 1st for Miller went to get MPetey.

But they are shuffling deck chairs here. Converting one strength into another is a zero sum game. Their best assets in are not better than their best assets out imo.

It's also too late for a slower re-tool. Management chose to be ultra aggressive right from start: A mistake given what they had. Such is life.

Now it's 'rabbit out of the hat' time. Let's see what they do?



I've refrained from commenting on it, but I agree. Lankinen saved their season, but he's not a starter they can bank on.

It's Demko or bust.

Lank is not playing a typical starter load right now

 

[Kryten]

Lankinen is the least of the teams worries

 

[Bleach Clean]

Lank is not playing a typical starter load right now

Yes, he's being overplayed, but his numbers dipped well before Silovs lost his bearings.

Lankinen's early burst is not Lankinen on balance.

 

[arttk]

Yes, he's being overplayed, but his numbers dipped well before Silovs lost his bearings.

Lankinen's early burst is not Lankinen on balance.

Listened to Woodley talking about this, he said Lank was on almost like Vezina level foe the 1st half. If we look at his usage, he’s been on an unsustainable load until Demko came back from injury.
Silovs was not trusted at all since he f***ed up his first game.

 

[Bgav]

They do use picks as currency: The 1st for Miller went to get MPetey.

But they are shuffling deck chairs here. Converting one strength into another is a zero sum game. Their best assets in are not better than their best assets out imo.

It's also too late for a slower re-tool. Management chose to be ultra aggressive right from the start: A mistake given what they had. Spilled milk.

Now it's 'rabbit out of the hat' time. Let's see what they do?



I've refrained from commenting on it, but I agree. Lankinen saved their season, but he's not a starter they can build with.

It's Demko or bust.

They specifically love flipping first. I mean accumulating all types of draft picks.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Listened to Woodley talking about this, he said Lank was on almost like Vezina level foe the 1st half. If we look at his usage, he’s been on an unsustainable load until Demko came back from injury.
Silovs was not trusted at all since he f***ed up his first game.

I question if it was for the 1st half because they have underperformed expected goals against since late November (iirc).

Lankinen was a fine stop gap that is now exhausted. I prefer not to give temporary solutions long-term deals.

Now, if Demko is expected to leave the organization, different story.

 

[arttk]

I question if it was for the 1st half because they have underperformed expected goals against since late November (iirc).

Lankinen was a fine stop gap that is now exhausted. I prefer not to give temporary solutions long-term deals.

Now, if Demko is expected to leave the organization, different story.

You can dig into that Woodley segment on Canucks talk, but he goes with clear sight which is not public data.

If he can play at the level he showed in the 1st half while at a 70 game pace then he would be earning 10M. He’s not paid to do that, I think expectations really he’s going to be a 40 game 1B.

 

[Bleach Clean]

You can dig into that Woodley segment on Canucks talk, but he goes with clear sight which is not public data.

If he can play at the level he showed in the 1st half while at a 70 game pace then he would be earning 10M. He’s not paid to do that, I think expectations really he’s going to be a 40 game 1B.

Right, and no one is expecting a Vezina calibre 70 game performance from Lankinen.

He's a low end starter/high end back up that will ultimately become superfluous once Demko is healthy. Therefore, the money spent on him was better spent elsewhere.

 

[arttk]

Right, and no one is expecting a Vezina calibre 70 game performance from Lankinen.

He's a low end starter/high end back up that will ultimately become superfluous once Demko is healthy. Therefore, the money spent on him was better spent elsewhere.

The last time we had god level goaltending for 82 games and good defense and flawed offense we ended up winning the presidents trophy.
If Lank can give us like 40 games of his first half performance and play enough so Demko doesn’t break down then I think it’s worth it.

 

[Joe Rogan]

Right, and no one is expecting a Vezina calibre 70 game performance from Lankinen.

He's a low end starter/high end back up that will ultimately become superfluous once Demko is healthy. Therefore, the money spent on him was better spent elsewhere.

Your entire argument is based upon the assumption that Demko will be healthy and reliable to play a starter's workload, which is a fool's errand based on his history and career trajection. Lankinen and a Mcelhinney ish backup is enough to win in this league

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Your entire argument is based upon the assumption that Demko will be healthy and reliable to play a starter's workload, which is a fool's errand based on his history and career trajection. Lankinen and a Mcelhinney ish backup is enough to win in this league

A Lankinen-level goalie is enough to win in this league. With our blueline shaping up to be good, we could easily be competitive for a playoff spot. But I see us in the mushy middle of the league unless we can upgrade the forward group with some more scoring punch.

A talent like Marner, for example, would be huge. But I think in free agency at least, we’ll have to settle for some more “economy priced” targets like an Andrew Mangiapane.

I’m also of the mindset that we should keep Boeser. But I know 1) I’m in the minority, and 2) I think that ship has sailed and a contract won’t happen.

 

[arttk]

If

A Lankinen-level goalie is enough to win in this league. With our blueline shaping up to be good, we could easily be competitive for a playoff spot. But I see us in the mushy middle of the league unless we can upgrade the forward group with some more scoring punch.

A talent like Marner, for example, would be huge. But I think in free agency at least, we’ll have to settle for some more “economy priced” targets like an Andrew Mangiapane.

I’m also of the mindset that we should keep Boeser. But I know 1) I’m in the minority, and 2) I think that ship has sailed and a contract won’t happen.

If our tandem next year is Lank and Silovs then we are in trouble. I am assuming the tandem is Demko / Lank. If they trade Demko then we need another backup for sure.