ddawg1950
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Once we sign Silov I'd rather head into the season with what we have right now and wait for the right opportunity to show up.
I’ve been beating the Yzerman is a fraud drum for over a year and nothing has changed my mindYzerman right now is Benning-lite with better marketing, giving excessive money to third liners instead of fourth liners.
He got fewer core pieces than Vancouver because their scouts unnearthed nothing during their terrible years, now they're stuck in a muddy middle because of these bloated contracts to middling players.
Faber for FialaAnd Faber, they got what’s his name but man, he f***ed up so hard.
just a few on the top of my headPeople love to say this about Yzerman but never have a specific answer for how they could have done better. He inherited a bunch of bad contracts and busts when he took over in 2019, and there are no elite forwards drafted near Detroits picks that they missed. They got screwed by the lottery in their tank years and did the best with what they ended up with. If they get one of Byfield or Stutzle like they should have in 2020 their franchise outlook is tremendously different right now.
Up until 2023. His single biggest mistake in the rebuild was ending the tank right before the 2023 season and a draft class packed with elite talent. He desperately needed to tank one more year and pull one of the four 1C's at the top of the draft but he didn't. But all of the criticism is that Detroit should be better now, not that they should have tanked longer, and that they should have franchise talent by now as if that's the GM's fault when there isn't any that was picked anywhere near their draft slots.
I don't understand why they don't try to move Poolman.
It's clear a lot of teams won't be using up their cap space, and assuming the contract is insured it shouldn't take much more than a late pick to move him. That $3m or so of cap space turns into $9m at the deadline.
I didn't mention amateur scouting at all. I talked about the fat contracts he handed out to middling players.His body of work is pretty neat in Tampa.
Mostly his amateur scouting team has failed him in Detroit.
GMs dont amateur scout. They GM.
I don't understand why they don't try to move Poolman.
It's clear a lot of teams won't be using up their cap space, and assuming the contract is insured it shouldn't take much more than a late pick to move him. That $3m or so of cap space turns into $9m at the deadline.
Re: Yzerman
That 9-2 loss to Arizona and getting booed off home ice may have completely broken their rebuild.
Up until then Yzerman was taking the slow scorched earth approach and hoarding picks.
But he and the organization were embarrassed by that game and overreacted; that summer they signed Copp, Chiarot, Perron, Kubalik, Maatta, Husso and the next summer was Holl, Compher, etc.
Not all the signings were terrible or didn't work out, and it's not a bad idea to insulate the rebuild with quality veterans, but they went way overboard and signed middling veterans in an attempt to accelerate the rebuild which like never works (sound familiar?).
it's an outrage really.I really wish that our GM had handled a jr analyst’s firing better
the year they lost the draft lottery was possibly a blessing. Not sure Lafrenier would have worked out any better than Raymond has.The problem is that they rebuilt but didn't get any luck with drafting elite talent, and the rebuild just kept stretching on and on. If they'd won a couple of draft lotteries we wouldn't be having this discussion.
That one seems more like bad luck to me. Faber looked like a good but not spectacular prospect prior to the trade. Fiala meanwhile looked like a guy with another level offensively thst had been stifled due to systems and teammates in Minny.Faber for Fiala
Holy f*** Rob Blake is terrible
The problem is that they rebuilt but didn't get any luck with drafting elite talent, and the rebuild just kept stretching on and on. If they'd won a couple of draft lotteries we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Assume the cost is too high and they don’t want to move more futures. They tried to move him for the better part of last year. They are thinking of making a trade, but sounds like that’s more targeting other teams looking to ditch salary.
Otherwise think they hold him, put him on LTIR as late as possible to maximize cap space, and let the contract roll off.
I think the criticism is definitely not going scorch earth and also overpaying a bunch of middling players that gets the team stuck in the mushy zoneThey did. They finished with 39 points in 2020 and were dead last by a mile. Then they got completely, unbelievably screwed by the lottery, which is why I said if they got one of Stutzle or Byfield like they deserved then their franchise outlook would be completely different right now.
They should have tanked one more year and that's the real fundamental flaw but that's never the criticism.
Started looking around at LD that may be on the market. Came up with the following names.
Mario Ferraro | 2y/3.25m
Nick Leddy | 2y/4.0m | Full NTC
Marcus Pettersson | 1y/4.025m | 8-NTC
Mattias Samulesson | 6y/4.25m
Ivan Provorov | 1y/4.725m
Michael Matheson | 2y/4.875m | 8-NTC
Samuel Girard | 3y/5.0m | 9-NTC
Travis Sanheim | 7y/6.25m | Full NTC
Torey Krug | 3y/6.5m | Full NTC
For all intents and purposes Canucks have about 3.8m in LTIR space to add someone.
I'm a little lost. Has something new come up or out with this? I am assuming you're referring to Rachel Doerrie as the fired analyst.I really wish that our GM had handled a jr analyst’s firing better
Probably Marcus Petterson with retention close to TDL or just throw Poolman over for cap balance.Started looking around at LD that may be on the market. Came up with the following names.
Mario Ferraro | 2y/3.25m
Nick Leddy | 2y/4.0m | Full NTC
Marcus Pettersson | 1y/4.025m | 8-NTC
Mattias Samulesson | 6y/4.25m
Ivan Provorov | 1y/4.725m
Michael Matheson | 2y/4.875m | 8-NTC
Samuel Girard | 3y/5.0m | 9-NTC
Travis Sanheim | 7y/6.25m | Full NTC
Torey Krug | 3y/6.5m | Full NTC
For all intents and purposes Canucks have about 3.8m in LTIR space to add someone.
Once we sign Silov I'd rather head into the season with what we have right now and wait for the right opportunity to show up.
I wonder whether the reason they haven't yet signed Silovs is that in fact what he's asking for would force them back into using ltir. Otherwise, I don't see why the deal isn't already done.I think this is likely, barring something falling in their lap they can't turn down. It allows them to accrue cap space during the season, and make a Zadorov-type move later. They also appear to have a higher opinion of Forbort and Desharnais than the fans.
I don't understand why they don't try to move Poolman.
It's clear a lot of teams won't be using up their cap space, and assuming the contract is insured it shouldn't take much more than a late pick to move him. That $3m or so of cap space turns into $9m at the deadline.
I wonder whether the reason they haven't yet signed Silovs is that in fact what he's asking for would force them back into using ltir. Otherwise, I don't see why the deal isn't already done.
Probably Marcus Petterson with retention close to TDL or just throw Poolman over for cap balance.