Totally agree. Forbort is also pretty injury prone I believe and Soucy got injured a couple of times last season.
Would've liked Schmidt back at 800k for the 3rd LD spot.
Totally agree. Forbort is also pretty injury prone I believe and Soucy got injured a couple of times last season.
Having the best prospect pool is only good if those prospects actually graduate into good NHL players. Haha.It's almost like the spreadsheet nerds coronated them far too prematurely.
Totally agree. Forbort is also pretty injury prone I believe and Soucy got injured a couple of times last season.
Yzerman doesn't have a Hedman or Stamkos to start with like he did in Tampa. thats a huge difference while Seider and Lucas Raymond are not bad young guys, far from anything of a Stamkos and Hedman. Yzerman similar to Holland. OVERRATED.My cynicism about Blake and Yzerman has paid off. Both have been very bad when it comes to actually making moves that improve the team.
The funny thing is that I don’t mind Yzerman’s moves up front, for the most part. It’s that there’s the mythology built up around him that people are finally realizing it’s just that.
The teardown version of a rebuild is much easier than the building back up part. Neither of them have shown a knack at that part yet.
I know it was a different regime but the guy waived to go live in Winnipeg for years. I don’t think he was coming back here unless Allvin paid at least double, probably moreWould've liked Schmidt back at 800k for the 3rd LD spot.
I have been looking hard at LD too. Forbort getting turned into a 8th D-Man wouldn't be the worst thing. His caphit wouldn't look out of place in the press box and he's played partial seasons before.
Plus Soucy does get injured a bunch.
any appetite for Travis Dermott at 800k?
And Faber, they got what’s his name but man, he f***ed up so hard.yeah they turned iaffalo, vilardi, kupari and durzi into darcy kuemper (via pld and the durzi for a 2nd deal) and moved walker, grans and a 2nd just to get rid of cal petersen's contract (and they also had to retain on provorov for some reason)
just all time panic gming
This is my thinking as well, and it lines up with contracts too. Forbot is here on a 1 year 1.5M deal while Desharnais was signed for 2 years at 2M. Not that necessarily means much but to me Forbort will be a very expensive #7 (once they upgrade the defense) while Desharnais will play on the bottom pairing regularly as he's definitely better than Juulsen and Friedman.
So
Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - Myers
LD - Desharnais
Forbort
Honestly I don't care for it at all. I will give management the benefit of the doubt as their pro-scouting has largely been good but man I hope there is a trade sooner than later.
Everyone is aware that we have $250 K in cap space right?
Just who all are you counting on jettisoning to become cap compliant when we haven't even signed Silovs yet.
A big difference between Virtanen and Hog is that Hog was awesome in his first season here and started his second season red hot as well. He looked like a surefire bet to develop into a top 6 winger. Virtanen was crap his entire tenure except that one unbelievably flukey season.This represents such a superficial understanding of Hoglander's contributions to the team. Anyone can put up promising stats riding shotgun with Pettersson and getting some fortuitous bounces. He doesn't have the hockey IQ to play in a prominent offensive role in this league.
You know who else was a promising 23 year old with a 36 point season? Jake Virtanen. Cutting him loose then would have absolutely been the right call. Instead we re-signed him to a contract we bought out.
People love to say this about Yzerman but never have a specific answer for how they could have done better. He inherited a bunch of bad contracts and busts when he took over in 2019, and there are no elite forwards drafted near Detroits picks that they missed. They got screwed by the lottery in their tank years and did the best with what they ended up with. If they get one of Byfield or Stutzle like they should have in 2020 their franchise outlook is tremendously different right now.My cynicism about Blake and Yzerman has paid off. Both have been very bad when it comes to actually making moves that improve the team.
The funny thing is that I don’t mind Yzerman’s moves up front, for the most part. It’s that there’s the mythology built up around him that people are finally realizing it’s just that.
The teardown version of a rebuild is much easier than the building back up part. Neither of them have shown a knack at that part yet.
People love to say this about Yzerman but never have a specific answer for how they could have done better. He inherited a bunch of bad contracts and busts when he took over in 2019, and there are no elite forwards drafted near Detroits picks that they missed. They got screwed by the lottery in their tank years and did the best with what they ended up with. If they get one of Byfield or Stutzle like they should have in 2020 their franchise outlook is tremendously different right now.
Up until 2023. His single biggest mistake in the rebuild was ending the tank right before the 2023 season and a draft class packed with elite talent. He desperately needed to tank one more year and pull one of the four 1C's at the top of the draft but he didn't. But all of the criticism is that Detroit should be better now, not that they should have tanked longer, and that they should have franchise talent by now as if that's the GM's fault when there isn't any that was picked anywhere near their draft slots.
I know it was a different regime but the guy waived to go live in Winnipeg for years. I don’t think he was coming back here unless Allvin paid at least double, probably more
I think they should’ve done what Chicago did and do a f*** it burn it all down tank. Right now they don’t have that elite talent that is needed to actually compete.People love to say this about Yzerman but never have a specific answer for how they could have done better. He inherited a bunch of bad contracts and busts when he took over in 2019, and there are no elite forwards drafted near Detroits picks that they missed. They got screwed by the lottery in their tank years and did the best with what they ended up with. If they get one of Byfield or Stutzle like they should have in 2020 their franchise outlook is tremendously different right now.
Up until 2023. His single biggest mistake in the rebuild was ending the tank right before the 2023 season and a draft class packed with elite talent. He desperately needed to tank one more year and pull one of the four 1C's at the top of the draft but he didn't. But all of the criticism is that Detroit should be better now, not that they should have tanked longer, and that they should have franchise talent by now as if that's the GM's fault when there isn't any that was picked anywhere near their draft slots.
Honestly, D depth is overrated. As I mentioned earlier, the D as it stands today is better than either blueline that just played in the Cup finals. It's also substantially better than any blueline Rutherford ever won a Cup with, in Carolina or Pittsburgh.