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sting101
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My take on the moves
I think they really wanted to walk away with Guentzel and Zadorov but once the negotiiations fell apart with Z and TB went ballistic with that kind of financial package we had to go to plan B
Always felt it was Debrusk (he is stylistically a fit for what our top skilled players could use and he wanted to come west) The contract was 2 yrs too long but it kept the AAV from becoming stupid and for 4 to 5 yrs he should be able to be a solid compliment that fits 4-5yr window vs a Toffoli or some of the older available soft skill that we may have in Lekkerimaki as soon as next year or the next.
It's the price ot UFA shopping. Rarely comes without costing assets if you want the big names in AAV or term that might have to be bought out or traded with picks.
Heinen Forbort Sherwood are good depth signings to keep things competitive. Still believe they will find a D that will fall out after teams realize they need to adjust to some of the spending they just did.
To start were not much different than the team that took off to 1st place and i will argue because i like Debrusk that he will be better than many of you think and is a huge upgrade on Mikhayev who was just awful in a top9 capacity with the horrendous hands and soft play that materialized. He does a fair amount of play driving and while he's certainly not as talented as Miller he can add some of the same dimensions in skating and puck protection and shooting and i'm really hoping the Horvat bumper role
Debrusk >> Mikhayev
Heinen for Kuzmenko ??
Sherwood = Lafferty
Forbort < Cole
Silovs for DeSmith ??
Have to really hope Lekkerimaki Willander Raty Pod etc can add some punch to reduce the in season additions necessity
I think they really wanted to walk away with Guentzel and Zadorov but once the negotiiations fell apart with Z and TB went ballistic with that kind of financial package we had to go to plan B
Always felt it was Debrusk (he is stylistically a fit for what our top skilled players could use and he wanted to come west) The contract was 2 yrs too long but it kept the AAV from becoming stupid and for 4 to 5 yrs he should be able to be a solid compliment that fits 4-5yr window vs a Toffoli or some of the older available soft skill that we may have in Lekkerimaki as soon as next year or the next.
It's the price ot UFA shopping. Rarely comes without costing assets if you want the big names in AAV or term that might have to be bought out or traded with picks.
Heinen Forbort Sherwood are good depth signings to keep things competitive. Still believe they will find a D that will fall out after teams realize they need to adjust to some of the spending they just did.
To start were not much different than the team that took off to 1st place and i will argue because i like Debrusk that he will be better than many of you think and is a huge upgrade on Mikhayev who was just awful in a top9 capacity with the horrendous hands and soft play that materialized. He does a fair amount of play driving and while he's certainly not as talented as Miller he can add some of the same dimensions in skating and puck protection and shooting and i'm really hoping the Horvat bumper role
Debrusk >> Mikhayev
Heinen for Kuzmenko ??
Sherwood = Lafferty
Forbort < Cole
Silovs for DeSmith ??
Have to really hope Lekkerimaki Willander Raty Pod etc can add some punch to reduce the in season additions necessity
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theguardianII
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So they kept the 40 game guy?
Why is it some people think of Zadorov as a #5 or 6 dman?
They jump up and down about "Joshua's big improvement" at age 27 yrs but a 29 yr old dman in a position much harder to learn can't improve?
Take a look of the ranking in the real season. Zad had more impact than Hughes and Hronek combined.
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
Not being in on Kovacevic seems to be a collective failure for 30 GMs
Zadorov didn’t want to play here the daylight between the two proposals was small.
Just A Bit Outside
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Best signing of the day: Perry to Edm.
Guarantees they won’t win the Cup next year.
Guarantees they won’t win the Cup next year.
Hansen
tyler motte simp
No fit here with Forbort already signed, need someone who can move the puck a little.
Hansen
tyler motte simp
Alex Carrier or Brannstrom/Kylington and we'd be sitting pretty well for the summer.
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Simply put, we needed a top 4 D and a legit top 6 winger.
We got a #7/8 D, two bottom 6 forwards and a middle 6 forward.
Just not good enough and now you are left praying Debrusk takes a massive leap or someone like Lekk comes into camp and turns into a superstar.
Likewise, the blueline situation is sad as you say. Myers is a wildcard. Soucy is injury prone. Juulsen will be a full time bottom pairing defensman. Yuck.
Forbort is absolute trash and I would expect to be buried in Abbotsford after camp. Was trash in LA and Calgary and even looked bad in Boston's system.
Hopefully he rebounds. He should but hes so up and down with injuries and excuses and chemistry.
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The right-side is effectively the same as last year except you were mainly playing Cole on his off-side and subbing in Juulsen, but yes due to the downgrade from Zadorov to Frogurt, we should bolster down the right with another NHL guy.
The top two pairings are basically what we were running in the playoffs.
I agree with all this. Management gave up assets to get worse today than we were last month. I was skeptical of this group when they came in. Overall they've proved me wrong. But they dropped the ball big time today.
It's very clear they were hoping for JG without a backup plan.
I am fine with the forward situation no team or very few are stacked with all stars on the top two lines or else there depth is questionable. No reason Joshua, garland, or hoglander can't fill in second line minutes, you have guys like heinen now who can fill in the 3rd line.
You do need another solid D though.
You do need another solid D though.
Jovofan
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One thing that I just realized is that the Heinen and Sherwood signings being for 2 years each means they're able to navigate the cap penalty years with some effective players on cheaper contracts. These deals get us through both years of the Mik retention plus one year of the big OEL penalty.
Also, with Suter's contract expiring next summer he can potentially be replaced by somebody from Abbotsford on a cheaper contract. When you factor in that plus the cap increase next summer you could be looking at the money required to re-up Boeser.
Also, with Suter's contract expiring next summer he can potentially be replaced by somebody from Abbotsford on a cheaper contract. When you factor in that plus the cap increase next summer you could be looking at the money required to re-up Boeser.
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