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[arttk]

This management group quickly went from a big time upgrade on Benning to are they actually worse than Benning?

no, not even close. Do not ever ever ever normalize Benning.

 

[Bubbles]

Yep. I said it then. They should not have traded the Rangers' 1st. Has the potential to be an extremely valuable piece, where if they get lucky could transform the Canucks as a franchise.

It would have been another lottery ticket in the McKenna sweepstakes.

 

[Canucks LB]

It would have been another lottery ticket in the McKenna sweepstakes.

Maybe but honestly, I can’t see the Rangers falling off like that again

 

[I am toxic]

no, not even close. Do not ever ever ever normalize Benning.

This should not need to be said, and yet can not be said enough

To square this circle, I will simply quote this every ti.e it comes up

 

[arttk]

It would have been another lottery ticket in the McKenna sweepstakes.

It's hard to imagine a team with Shersterkin being bad enough to be last, also without their 1st, they are going to move heaven and earth to be better next season.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

no, not even close. Do not ever ever ever normalize Benning.

"Hey, the previous captain put a f***ing hole into the bilge, and now we are sinking. This new captain must be worse because he can't bail the water out fast enough!"

Is basically how I read that. I'm sorry, but where does he even get his opinion's from? The toilet store or Blind-Rage-R-Us?

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

no more in hire system. been there done that. let malholtra coach in abbotsford and deal with the kids. develop them. find someone else with a better resume. i know its the recycled coaches but there should be some names avaliable. Dave Hakstol

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/nhl-notebook-taking-a-look-at-how-dave-hakstols-coaching-style-compares-in-seattle-to-fargo-and-philadelphia/

Absolutely not.

If Tocchet does walk, I'd look at bringing Colliton in as HC.

Assuming the Rangers fire Laviolette, I'd have interest in him too (won a Cup with Rutherford in Carolina).

 

[credulous]

Maybe but honestly, I can’t see the Rangers falling off like that again

i don't really see how the rangers get much better. they're aging badly and their "youth" movement has mostly failed. they've got gabe perrault probably joining the team next season but other than that they are running it back with what they have

 

[Canucks LB]

i don't really see how the rangers get much better. they're aging badly and their "youth" movement has mostly failed. they've got gabe perrault probably joining the team next season but other than that they are running it back with what they have

Having JT for a full year and a new coach will help imo

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Wait why are the Rangers not giving up their pick which is at 13 this year? Which would making it rolling unprotected to 2026 a moot point.

 

[Canucks LB]

Wait why are the Rangers not giving up their pick which is at 13 this year? Which would making it rolling unprotected to 2026 a moot point.

Because they wanna probably trade there 1st this year for upgrades

 

[credulous]

Wait why are the Rangers not giving up their pick which is at 13 this year? Which would making it rolling unprotected to 2026 a moot point.

drury is probably fired if the rangers miss the playoffs again. he has no reason to convey the pick now when he could keep it and trade it for help

maybe ownership steps in and stops him tho i guess

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

drury is probably fired if the rangers miss the playoffs again. he has no reason to convey the pick now when he could keep it and trade it for help

maybe ownership steps in and stops him tho i guess

You would still basically need to move out money in any deal or at some point. It also, seems like it would be too complicated for Rangers management. Heck they need to move money to sign their RFA’s, but maybe they use the pick to try to do both. Or they find a team that values Kreider as positive assets.

 

[arttk]

Having JT for a full year and a new coach will help imo

probably try really hard to trade away a bunch of guys too. They are going to do eveything they can to move off of Kreider and Zibanejad and they will probably pull it off, there are always sucker GMs around. Doesn't matter that they have NMC, they will probably waive

 

[JT Milker]

drury is probably fired if the rangers miss the playoffs again. he has no reason to convey the pick now when he could keep it and trade it for help

maybe ownership steps in and stops him tho i guess

That would make the pick next year even less likely to be high. The chances that pick ends up 1st OA are hilariously overblown.

 

[Vector]

@Vector

I haven't looked in earnest but I think Cole Sillinger would be someone who could shake loose this summer.

He's not a sexy addition but J.G. Pageau would fit as a reliably productive right-handed centre.

The health of Pettersson of Chytil really complicates things.

Another option would be to re-sign Suter and go after a play driving winger.

 

[Nick Lang]

Maybe but honestly, I can’t see the Rangers falling off like that again

I agree. Isn't it only top 13 protected as well? Just need Miller to take his head out of his ass for a couple games here and put together a couple wins. Tough schedule though. TB twice (tonight and last game of season) Panthers, Hurricanes, but they have Islanders, and Flyers as well.

It's hard to imagine a team with Shersterkin being bad enough to be last, also without their 1st, they are going to move heaven and earth to be better next season.

Yeah, the Rangers are an original 6 franchise with a huge financial market and money to spend, a favorable landing spot for UFA's and a constant desire to be competitive. I can't see them doing anything but icing the strongest team they can next year, especially without their first.

 

[credulous]

That would make the pick next year even less likely to be high. The chances that pick ends up 1st OA are hilariously overblown.

i think this was true when the canucks held the islanders protected pick and people were salivating over having a shot at celebrini but i think the rangers have a shot to be really awful next year. their top six is 5 guys over 30 and gabe perrault/will cuylle. their defense is just bad. sheshterkin could carry them but he's struggled a lot this year. he could also have a down year next season

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

no, not even close. Do not ever ever ever normalize Benning.

We all have PTSD from Benning

 

[supercanuck]

I haven't looked in earnest but I think Cole Sillinger would be someone who could shake loose this summer.

He's not a sexy addition but J.G. Pageau would fit as a reliably productive right-handed centre.

The health of Pettersson of Chytil really complicates things.

Another option would be to re-sign Suter and go after a play driving winger.

Cole Sillinger - What would be the ask I wonder? It's the kind of bet that we should make but would 1st + Hogz or something be enough? Probably not.

 

[supercanuck]

i think this was true when the canucks held the islanders protected pick and people were salivating over having a shot at celebrini but i think the rangers have a shot to be really awful next year. their top six is 5 guys over 30 and gabe perrault/will cuylle. their defense is just bad. sheshterkin could carry them but he's struggled a lot this year. he could also have a down year next season

Their best move might be to fire Drury, and see if it re-energizes the team (assuming they all hate him).

 

[arttk]

We all have PTSD from Benning

I think that part is super evident. I think a lot of folks still think the current management can’t scout and trade.

 

[Vector]

Cole Sillinger - What would be the ask I wonder? It's the kind of bet that we should make but would 1st + Hogz or something be enough? Probably not.

The bigger issue is I can't see the Blue Jackets being interested in anything the Canucks have that they'd be willing to part. Their biggest need is young defencemen and I doubt Kudryavtsev or Mynio move the needle. So unless Pettersson, Willander, or (to a lesser extent) Mancini are on the board futures won't cut it.

Pretty much every team is looking to break out and no one is just selling off players for futures anymore. Maybe that changes and GMs go crazy for draft picks at the draft.

 

[Vector]

Drance mentions him in today's mailbag but Pavel Zacha is someone to take not of. There's not a high ceiling on him but he's pretty much a prototypical second line centre. Big factor is which direction Boston is going in this summer. You'd think he'd be slated for 3rd line centre duty with the acquisition of Mittelstadt.

Zacha is signed for 2 more seasons at 4.75m with a 8-NTC.

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In the same mailbag Drance has this to say about their 1st round draft pick.

Given these dynamics, I’d actually be somewhat less surprised to see the Canucks deal their 2026 first-round pick (lottery protected, rolling over to 2027 unprotected) as part of a larger deal this summer as opposed to trading their 2025 first-round pick.

I generally agree to this. I wouldn't be shocked to see them trade their 2026 pick and use the 2025.

 

[Hodgy]

In the same mailbag Drance has this to say about their 1st round draft pick.

Given these dynamics, I’d actually be somewhat less surprised to see the Canucks deal their 2026 first-round pick (lottery protected, rolling over to 2027 unprotected) as part of a larger deal this summer as opposed to trading their 2025 first-round pick.

I generally agree to this. I wouldn't be shocked to see them trade their 2026 pick and use the 2025.

100%. It's pretty rare for GMs to deal consecutive first round picks, especially when they haven't made the playoffs three out of the last four years.