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[Bobby9]

if i was management i would send Petey on a plane to some swiss experts (where Real madrid and all those global superstars go to for medical stuff) to figure out if there is anything wrong or what's wrong and then use that info to figure out the best plan moving forward.

Why would they send him somewhere for an injury that doesn’t exist?

 

[supercanuck]

I would also bring back Boudreau as a consultant where his only job is to teach coaching/management how he previously helped get EP's confidence up. *I'm only half joking.*

 

[vancityluongo]

Pettersson + (not Hronek lol) for Barzal + Dobson? Is that in the realm of possibility?

I know Dobson doesn't really fit our team right now but like others have said, good backup in case Hughes walks and alternatively we could move him for a top 6 forward if we so choose

doubt lou would take petey as the centerpiece for either of those guys, let alone both.

dobson only makes sense not as a backup, but in exchange for hughes *if* they *know* quinn is walking to ny/nj in two years anyways. barzal + dobson should then certainly be on the table value wise, and i'd still want them to add

something like - barzal + dobson + romanov for hughes + soucy

debrusk - barzal - boeser
suter - pettersson - sherwood
joshua - chytil - garland
hoglander - blueger - doc

m. pettersson - dobson
romanov - hronek
e. pettersson - myers

demko
lankinen

and even that feels like a loss because we'd lose a top-5 player in the league, but it's the only way to even remotely salvage things if quinn does want out no matter what. and i'd rather trade petey straight up for norris first before doing the above if it means quinn stays haha.

 

[StickShift]

Pettersson + (not Hronek lol) for Barzal + Dobson? Is that in the realm of possibility?

I know Dobson doesn't really fit our team right now but like others have said, good backup in case Hughes walks and alternatively we could move him for a top 6 forward if we so choose

It would probably be Pettersson/Willander for Barzal/Dobson.

Reality is if they stacked their top-four with Hughes/Hronek and Pettersson/Dobson there wouldn’t be enough ice time to properly develop Willander anyways.

 

[Delocatedfan]

Would Lou entertain Dobson for Boeser? Obviously an extension would be in place for Brock if the deal went down.

Would definitely need top 6 help but the defense would be amazing

Hughes - Dobson / Hronek
MP3 - Hronek / Dobson
D Petey - Myers
Mancini

Would allow for Willander to play in the AHL next year & get used to pro play in abby.

Could always try & flip Soucy in the offseason.

I doubt Lou would ever make that move but the Vancouver Canucks defense would be amazing

 

[Bobby9]

Would Lou entertain Dobson for Boeser? Obviously an extension would be in place for Brock if the deal went down.

Would definitely need top 6 help but the defense would be amazing

Hughes - Dobson / Hronek
MP3 - Hronek / Dobson
D Petey - Myers
Mancini

Would allow for Willander to play in the AHL next year & get used to pro play in abby.

Could always try & flip Soucy in the offseason.

I doubt Lou would ever make that move but the Vancouver Canucks defense would be amazing

To much money tied up on the back end.

If you’re bringing Dobson in the Myers and Soucy have to go and I don’t think it’s a terrible idea.

Hughes - Dobson
MP29 - Hronek
DPetey - ???

 

[Orr4Norris]

You get Dobson to run your PP. That would not go over well with Hughes. Don’t really see the fit.

If we are using assets, it’s gotta be for forward help

 

[LemonSauceD]

I want Horvat back

 

[Jerry the great]

To much money tied up on the back end.

If you’re bringing Dobson in the Myers and Soucy have to go and I don’t think it’s a terrible idea.

Hughes - Dobson
MP29 - Hronek
DPetey - ???

I posted earlier that Myers isn't going anywhere next season....he has a full NMC and they won't ask him to waive it. And if Dobson signed a short term deal at~ $8MM, our top6 eats up about the same as our top6 did last season....as a % of cap

 

[sting101]

What about avoid the inevitable with Hughes and his 15 million dollar ask

Hughes to NYI for Barzal Dobson 2025 1st
Pettersson Hoglander to BUF for Cozens Byram
Sign Ehlers and lock up Dobson Byram long term

Ehlers Barzal Boeser
Debrusk Cozens Lekkerimaki
Joshua Chytil Garland
DOC Blueger Sherwood

Byram Dobson
M Pettersson Myers
E.Pettersson Willander

Demko

Draft a C

 

[Tact]

I wouldn’t be targeting Dobson - he would be redundant and a waste of allocation of cap space with Hughes, Hronek, Pettersson and with Wallinder on his way.

Pettersson for Cozens, Tuch draft pick

At this point I would consider it.

 

[Jerry the great]

You get Dobson to run your PP. That would not go over well with Hughes. Don’t really see the fit.

If we are using assets, it’s gotta be for forward help

could deploy both....same as Sweden did at the U20.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Florida recognized Huberdeau's faults, even after a 115p season, and fleeced Calgary, then won the cup.

EP's issues were on full display during his 100p year, and early the next. It should have been seen and acted upon. Could have gotten an absolute haul. Star winger, #3d +

Would have been able to give Bo his 8milly and run JT-Bo each with a top tier winger.

Now we've waited too long, blown 2 Norris campaigns from Hughes. It doesn't really matter what happens, none of the even remotely available names move the needle much to come out of the West.

 

[Quinning]

I would trade our next 3 1sts, Pettersson, and Willander for Tkachuk without question .

Yikes, I wouldn't. I'd sooner do that for Bedard.

Bedard is going to need a new contract after next season, and things haven't exactly gone amazing over there. I would be looking at

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

EP for Cozens + Tuch
Boeser for Sillinger + pick

 

[Peen]

Florida recognized Huberdeau's faults, even after a 115p season, and fleeced Calgary, then won the cup.

EP's issues were on full display during his 100p year, and early the next. It should have been seen and acted upon. Could have gotten an absolute haul. Star winger, #3d +

Would have been able to give Bo his 8milly and run JT-Bo each with a top tier winger.

Now we've waited too long, blown 2 Norris campaigns from Hughes. It doesn't really matter what happens, none of the even remotely available names move the needle much to come out of the West.

EP played like a legitimate superstar in the second half of 22-23 once Green was fired. That is indisputable. That’s his best stretch of his career.

 

[Delocatedfan]

You get Dobson to run your PP. That would not go over well with Hughes. Don’t really see the fit.

If we are using assets, it’s gotta be for forward help

He would be pp2 qb & fill in if Hughes gets hurt.

My thought would be he helps spread the minutes out so Hughes wont be asked to play 30 minutes a night

 

[Diamonddog01]

I wouldn’t be targeting Dobson - he would be redundant and a waste of allocation of cap space with Hughes, Hronek, Pettersson and with Wallinder on his way.

Pettersson for Cozens, Tuch draft pick

At this point I would consider it.

I don't care for Cozens and think he's vastly overrated however I'd take that and run if that was offered at the draft (again, barring no improvement in Petterson's play).

 

[wonton15]

EP for Cozens + Tuch
Boeser for Sillinger + pick

Neither team touches that IMO, but I’d probably do it. Not high on Cozens and it’ll leave us with a Cozens/Chytil down the middle but Tuch is great.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Ooof Canes might be starting to regret the Necas trade:

Necas in Colorado, 3 goals, 5 assists, 8 points in 7 games.
Drury in Colorado, 2 goals in 7 games

Rantanen in Carolina, 1 goal, 1 assist, 2 points in 6 games
Hall in Carolina, 1 assist in 5 games.

Ouch.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Ooof Canes might be starting to regret the Necas trade:

Necas in Colorado, 3 goals, 5 assists, 8 points in 7 games.
Drury in Colorado, 2 goals in 7 games

Rantanen in Carolina, 1 goal, 1 assist, 2 points in 6 games
Hall in Carolina, 1 assist in 5 games.

Ouch.

Good, I also hope Rantanen leaves just like Guentzel did. Can't stand their cheap GM or fans.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

EP played like a legitimate superstar in the second half of 22-23 once Green was fired. That is indisputable. That’s his best stretch of his career.

You mean after Bruce was fired. Yes it was his best half season, but not nearly as good as many pretend. Would have had huge trade value at the time, and early last year when he wasn't far removed from it.

 

[xtr3m]

Barzal has publicly bashed the attendance so there's a pretty good chance his value isn't what it should be either. Also had injury problems.

Talking about the lip reading video when he was on the bench?

 

[Hodgy]

theory? more like I don't doubt that everyone Dahliwahl reached out to in the canucks org believe Petey to be not injured, i just question their competence on the issue based on previous track record.

Hodgson -> can't figure out he had a back injury
Dickinson -> didn't even f***ing know he had a broken hand
Pearson -> f***ed up so hard with his rehab the PA had to step in
Demko -> f***ed up his rehab so hard he got a new unique injury
Mik -> the only team in sports history to recommend a player to play with a torn ACL

Tell me why I am not justified to question the competency of our medical team?

Ya, but my point is, this wouldn't be a situation where management/doctors missed some injury that was unknown to them or the player. This wouldn't be comparable at all since Pettersson/management/doctors already knew of this injury, and identified it. So, again, the theory is that everyone just kind of forgot about the injury but yet it is still significantly affecting Pettersson, which seems very far fetched to me.

It's incorrect to frame Dhaliwal as right or wrong here. He's relaying what he's been told. Drance too has relayed what he has been told. But Drance has been careful in saying he doesn't know. No confirmation. Sat Shah too has relayed he doesn't know. (Explicitly qualified)

My point is that Dhaliwal isn't necessarily 100% credible. He could just have bad sources. We don't know who he spoke to with the Canucks, or whether he spoke to anyone with the Canucks. He could have got the information second hand.

Management didn't even think Pettersson was injured at the year end presser.

I agree that is a bit puzzling. It may be that it was such a minor injury that management was never made aware. But you would think they were aware of all players' injury statuses.

And remind me, when has management and/or coach openly spoken about Pettersson's injury status within season? With Riccio?

If his injury is acceleration related and Pettersson largely depends upon acceleration, you have your answer.

My post was questioning the theory that the Canucks medical staff / management somehow don't currently know of an existing injury that actually has existed for like a calendar year, and which has been acknowledged and discussed by the player, the coach and the media, and which is currently a signficant factor in their highest paid player scoring at half his expected rate. Like, its a wild theory in my view.

I get that medical staff, and by extension, a management team, could miss and not know of a new injury to a player, for whatever reason, but that's not what we are talking about right now.

doubt lou would take petey as the centerpiece for either of those guys, let alone both.

dobson only makes sense not as a backup, but in exchange for hughes *if* they *know* quinn is walking to ny/nj in two years anyways. barzal + dobson should then certainly be on the table value wise, and i'd still want them to add

something like - barzal + dobson + romanov for hughes + soucy

debrusk - barzal - boeser
suter - pettersson - sherwood
joshua - chytil - garland
hoglander - blueger - doc

m. pettersson - dobson
romanov - hronek
e. pettersson - myers

demko
lankinen

and even that feels like a loss because we'd lose a top-5 player in the league, but it's the only way to even remotely salvage things if quinn does want out no matter what. and i'd rather trade petey straight up for norris first before doing the above if it means quinn stays haha.

If Hughes wants out it should be a tear down rebuild, and I am looking for younger/better future pieces.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Hughes might walk fear posts

EP for Cozens + Tuch
Boeser for Sillinger + pick

Cozens & Kulich truss