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[SeawaterOnIce]

We have to find our Kesler and Burrows

We can either do that or find our Richards and Carter.

Couturier and Konecny?

 

[valkynax]

yes that's why we are so screwed

Man two multi millionaire professionals athletes can't work together for the greater good, puke...

 

[sting101]

The nice part is the backline and goaltending if Demko can hold up is contender worthy now.

But yes Kesler (Cozens) Burrows (Hagel) are needed to drag this team into the fight. And that's only if 40 and 6 can get their collective heads out of their asses and be a deadly duo....at least on the PP

 

[TruGr1t]

Hold onto our 1st and draft a C. There's lots in this draft.

Hopefully we carry value largely by weaponizing cap space. We're in a unique position of being in a playoff spot and having a bunch of cap space.

 

[Ernie]

Hold onto our 1st and draft a C. There's lots in this draft.

Unless we win miss the playoffs and win the lottery, they won't be getting a player that will help them any time soon with that 1st. And even then it's doubtful. We need impact players now.

 

[VanJack]

I see both EP40 in Vancouver; and Connor Bedard in Chicago are struggling mightily and crossing swords with their local media.

Bedard was a -44 last season; and is -23 this season, and his lackluster defense and faceoff prowess are under the microscope. He really seems to be stagnating in Chi-Town. As for EP40, the less said the better.

So would you do a one-for-one deal to bring Bedard home. EP40 with retention, and even adding in a first or second round pick, or even both?

I say in a heart-beat. But what say you?

 

[Ernie]

I see both EP40 in Vancouver; and Connor Bedard in Chicago are struggling mightily and crossing swords with their local media.

Bedard was a -44 last season; and is -23 this season, and his lackluster defense and faceoff prowess are under the microscope. He really seems to be stagnating in Chi-Town. As for EP40, the less said the better.

So would you do a one-for-one deal to bring Bedard home. EP40 with retention, and even adding in a first or second round pick, or even both?

I say in a heart-beat. But what say you?

Is this as serious post?

 

[sting101]

I see both EP40 in Vancouver; and Connor Bedard in Chicago are struggling mightily and crossing swords with their local media.

Bedard was a -44 last season; and is -23 this season, and his lackluster defense and faceoff prowess are under the microscope. He really seems to be stagnating in Chi-Town. As for EP40, the less said the better.

So would you do a one-for-one deal to bring Bedard home. EP40 with retention, and even adding in a first or second round pick, or even both?

I say in a heart-beat. But what say you?

i say you are a AI program to generate interest and discussion around this team with most of your takes.

This cant be serious

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Unless we win miss the playoffs and win the lottery, they won't be getting a player that will help them any time soon with that 1st. And even then it's doubtful. We need impact players now.

Not necessarily. There's some examples over the last couple of drafts with Cs picked outside the Top 15 that have some impact.

 

[Russian_fanatic]

Trade Boeser for a top 4 RHD. Load up on defense. I'm not ready to deal Pettersson for four quarters.

 

[Ernie]

Not necessarily. There's some examples over the last couple of drafts with Cs picked outside the Top 15 that have some impact.

What are these examples?

 

[StickShift]

I see both EP40 in Vancouver; and Connor Bedard in Chicago are struggling mightily and crossing swords with their local media.

Bedard was a -44 last season; and is -23 this season, and his lackluster defense and faceoff prowess are under the microscope. He really seems to be stagnating in Chi-Town. As for EP40, the less said the better.

So would you do a one-for-one deal to bring Bedard home. EP40 with retention, and even adding in a first or second round pick, or even both?

I say in a heart-beat. But what say you?

Even if we were to accept the notion that Chicago is disappointed in Bedard and wants to trade him—is EP40 really the player they would target?

Feels like they could have their pick of any other productive players around the league—rather than getting an older, more lackluster player.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

What are these examples?

Without going too far back:

2021 - Bolduc (#17), Svechkov (#19), Johnston (#23)
2022 - Kulich (#28)
2023 - Ritchie (#27) (still early but could get more playing time very soon given their need)

So it may be a year or two, but it is possible for someone drafted outside the Top 15 to be contributing within 2-3 years.

 

[Agent007]

This isn't true unless there's something I'm missing.
BU's regular season goes until March 8

2024-25 Hockey East Men's Composite Schedule - Hockey East Association

Hockey East schedule

hockeyeastonline.com

BU is currently the 3rd seed. Hockey East playoffs for the 3rd seed start on March 15th and depending on how far BU goes, ends on March 21st. So that would be the earliest he's available if they lose.

2025 Hockey East Championship - Hockey East Association

The Hockey East Association men's league enters its 41st season on the ice in 2024-25

hockeyeastonline.com

Then if they make it to the Frozen Four, that ends on April 12:

Frozen Four: Future dates and sites

A complete listing of the future dates and sites for the men’s DI college ice hockey championship.

www.ncaa.com

So how can Willander be available by end of Feb?


On Soucy's trade value: this summer's crop of top 4 D is going to be extremely scarce. Anyone available that has recently been a top 4 D like Soucy should have value.
Maybe as a favor to the agent Rick is trying to downplay Soucy's value to make it harder for Canucks to move him since Soucy wants to stay. Hence all the whining about Canucks getting a bad reputation.

I think Dhaliwal meant when his season is over (should have said couple months instead of few weeks but maybe he's thinking March).

 

[Ernie]

Without going too far back:

2021 - Bolduc (#17), Svechkov (#19), Johnston (#23)
2022 - Kulich (#28)
2023 - Ritchie (#27) (still early but could get more playing time very soon given their need)

So it may be a year or two, but it is possible for someone drafted outside the Top 15 to be contributing within 2-3 years.

We don't have 2-3 years though. Next season is kinda make or break with respect to Quinn Hughes. If he signs long term in Summer 2026 we could look at something like this.

 

[Vector]

I think Dhaliwal meant when his season is over (should have said couple months instead of few weeks but maybe he's thinking March).

Yeah..Dhaliwal is getting his timing all wrong.

 

[Scumbag Frank]

I think Dhaliwal meant when his season is over (should have said couple months instead of few weeks but maybe he's thinking March).

It's a big distinction because if Willander was available in a few weeks, they might be able to get away with trading Soucy at the deadline.

As is, I don't think they can afford to do that if they want to make the playoffs and don't want Juulsen costing them games before Willander's available.

 

[Ernie]

Trade Boeser for a top 4 RHD. Load up on defense. I'm not ready to deal Pettersson for four quarters.

The Canucks have much more of a need on offence right now. I don't think they'll trade Boeser unless they're giving up on the playoffs (which is unlikely) or they can find a better player.

I'd love to see an Ehlers for Boeser and a 2nd swap.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Even if we were to accept the notion that Chicago is disappointed in Bedard and wants to trade him—is EP40 really the player they would target?

Feels like they could have their pick of any other productive players around the league—rather than getting an older, more lackluster player.

They would probably look at a complete haul with legitimate top 6 center under 24, a decent winger and a promising prospect along with multiple picks.

Ie. Leo Carlsson, Troy Terry and Pavel Mintyukov.

It's just not a trade that will ever happen though. Bedard is overrated as a center and it's much easier for Chicago to continue the rebuild and hope they fluke into getting a 1st line C.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Not sure why Montreal would want to give up on him.

They won't give him away for free, but I think he is available for the right price (which shouldn't be too steep due to his lack of production). I don't think the Habs see him as a core piece.

Strome showed glimpses of being a top line center. Dach is not a good hockey player imo.

Really? Strome had a productive season in 2018-19 being sandwiched by prime Patrick Kane and a really good Debrincat, but even then he was less than a point per game player.

Dach never had linemates of that calibre so his number looks worse, but on their own I don't think they are that far off at the same age.

Obviously there is no guarantee that Dach follows the same development, but it could be an interesting gamble if the option is available.

 

[arttk]

So, the theory is, that management, coaching and Pettersson all forgot about an injury that Pettersson was already diagnosed with last year and spoke openly about multiple times? But this injury is also mostly or partly responsible for this 11.6 million dollar play to score at half the rate that he would normally score at.

Like, who knows, maybe Dhaliwal is just wrong. Its not like he necessarily knows. But I don't really like your theory.

theory? more like I don't doubt that everyone Dahliwahl reached out to in the canucks org believe Petey to be not injured, i just question their competence on the issue based on previous track record.

Hodgson -> can't figure out he had a back injury
Dickinson -> didn't even f***ing know he had a broken hand
Pearson -> f***ed up so hard with his rehab the PA had to step in
Demko -> f***ed up his rehab so hard he got a new unique injury
Mik -> the only team in sports history to recommend a player to play with a torn ACL

Tell me why I am not justified to question the competency of our medical team?

 

[krutovsdonut]

It's a big distinction because if Willander was available in a few weeks, they might be able to get away with trading Soucy at the deadline.

As is, I don't think they can afford to do that if they want to make the playoffs and don't want Juulsen costing them games before Willander's available.

they won't have a clue whether willander can replace soucy by the tdl.

 

[sting101]

The Canucks have much more of a need on offence right now. I don't think they'll trade Boeser unless they're giving up on the playoffs (which is unlikely) or they can find a better player.

I'd love to see an Ehlers for Boeser and a 2nd swap.

Why not both

 

[valkynax]

theory? more like I don't doubt that everyone Dahliwahl reached out to in the canucks org believe Petey to be not injured, i just question their competence on the issue based on previous track record.

Hodgson -> can't figure out he had a back injury
Dickinson -> didn't even f***ing know he had a broken hand
Pearson -> f***ed up so hard with his rehab the PA had to step in
Demko -> f***ed up his rehab so hard he got a new unique injury
Mik -> the only team in sports history to recommend a player to play with a torn ACL

Tell me why I am not justified to question the competency of our medical team?

Does Ferland count? I vaguely recall that there was serious concussion concerns, but I can't remember if it was overlooked by Dimbo or was it a case of our med team screwing up.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Dhaliwal doesn't know anything.

Half the time it's word vomit by regurgitating things he hears.

Doubtful he doesn't any actual research on his own.