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Interview with Rick Dhaliwal.
Elias Pettersson, Forward
- Allvin has said he’s not injured; he’s gone through some stuff but is not injured
- No one Dhaliwal knows thinks Petterson is injured
- Sidney Crosby has set the standard for superstars on and off the ice; Crosby is the standard that Canucks management holds Pettersson too
- Very curious how he will be used at the 4 Nations tournament
- Athletes have stresses at and away from the rink
- If he did have knee tendonitis, he would have been sat until he’s healthy; it’s not the issue
- Is dealing with an oblique injury
- Was described to Dhaliwal as day-to-day; has been banged up for a while
- Very competitive and really looking forward to playing in the 4 Nations tournament and with his brother
- Real concern from Team USA
- Is a character guy
- Canucks wanted to do this signing fast; were very proactive
- No pressure on Pettersson or agent
- Kyle Dubas told every team 2 months ago that Pettersson would only be traded for a 1st round pick
- Some around the league are surprised the Canucks flipped the draft pick so quickly
- Tom Willander will be signing with the Canucks when his season ends in a few weeks
- If Pettersson and Willander are on the roster next season, Canucks will have 3 drafted defenceman on their roster
- Looking for a top-6 centre
- Many teams are looking for the exact same thing the Canucks are
- Wouldn’t surprise anyone if the Canucks draft a centre
- Canucks love him
- Is a desirable player and the Canucks targeted him
- Will be shocked if they don’t re-sign him
- Spitballs a 2-3 year term at 1.5m-2m contract; whatever he is asking for
- Trade deadline is a month away and Boeser still isn’t signing
- Still cold on the contract talks
- Some think this could go past the trade deadline; wouldn’t rule that out
- Allvin says it takes two sides to make a deal, that is GM code for “we are far apart”
- Believes the Canucks do want Boeser back but the term can be the biggest issue
- Imagine the Canucks want a 5-6 year deal
- Boeser’s agent is using Travis Konecny as a comparable; does not believe Boeser will get Konecny’s 8.7m
- Has been a model player on and off the ice; is 10th all-time in Canucks scoring
- Very liked in the dressing room
- Do believe the Canucks are trying to re-sign him
- Canucks won’t give him 8y/8m
- Pretty quiet with him
- Pretty good talks after January 1st and the Canucks wanted to get something done; his agent wanted to know next season’s salary cap number
- Agent knows the salary cap number now but Dhaliwal is still hearing that talks are quiet
- If Demko returns to form and shows he is durable, things can change for Lankinen; may not need to pay big money for him
- If Lankinen keeps playing well for the rest of the season, he will price himself out; 4-4.5m a year
- Lankinen showed Canuck management the importance of a good back-up goalie
- First preference for Soucy is to stay
- If they can’t make it work his agent is willing to help facilitate a trade
- As a free agent, had 6-7 teams trying to sign him
- Canucks are signing too many guys to term and then trading them too fast; getting a bad reputation; one or two times is okay but doing it way too much
- Has a full NTC
- Not sure if it’s an easy contract to move
PavelBure10
The Russian Rocket
I like Pettersson. I want him to succeed even if he's not playing for the Canucks. I am ready to trade him. Would absolutely love Thomas for him but unfortunately we are not going to get a Thomas caliber player without add. Going through the boards Columbus won't even trade Kent Johnson straight across for him. Pettersson's trade value is dropping at a rapid rate. They longer we wait, the worse it could potentially get. I presume when a Pettersson trade does eventually come, we'll all be disappointed.
I'm ready though, I'm ready for a new identity going forward.
I'm ready though, I'm ready for a new identity going forward.
sandwichbird2023
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The thing is, what do you project EP40 to be in the coming season and beyond? "Resume" and "proved in the past" are all moot if you don't believe he can ever get back to that level. That is the dilemma.
Basically you have 2 camps:
1) believes he will bounce back, so it doesn't make sense to trade him as you are never getting a 1C back.
2) believes this is who he is going forward, and if he does bounce back it will have to be with another team/city, or not bounce back at all. In that case, you want to trade him before his NTC kicks in and before he lose all value from his play.
What Petey accomplished in the past is great and all, but if there were any signs he would get back to that level, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Unfortunately with his NTC kicking in in 5 months, there isn't much time to observe and evaluate. Management kind of have to make a call soon, or the decision would be made for them. Tough spot.
TruGr1t
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Agent talk there, Canucks are fully within their right to trade guys who play like shit and underperform their deals.
Remember how nobody knew Dickinson was injured until we shipped him to Chicago.
Or nobody on the team knew the medical team was f***ing up Pearson’s injury.
Or nobody on the team knew the medical team was f***ing up Pearson’s injury.
I really hope they trade Boeser.
Love the guy but we don't have a center that can unlock his capabilities. In addition to that, I don't see his game aging well... he needs to be on a fast team that can masquerade his foot speed. We need play drivers and we know he definitely isn't that. Allvin's comments on "evaluating" is really just posturing in my opinion. Unless we get him at a huge discount like $7.5 x 6 years, I don't think we should be signing that contract.
Would look to get a top nine forward, first round pick and a mid prospect or pick. Some packages that could make sense to me...
WSH: 1st + 3rd + Mangiapane
CBJ: 1st + 3rd + Kuraly/Olivier
Min: 1st + 3rd + Hartman
NYI: 1st + 3rd + Duclair
Love the guy but we don't have a center that can unlock his capabilities. In addition to that, I don't see his game aging well... he needs to be on a fast team that can masquerade his foot speed. We need play drivers and we know he definitely isn't that. Allvin's comments on "evaluating" is really just posturing in my opinion. Unless we get him at a huge discount like $7.5 x 6 years, I don't think we should be signing that contract.
Would look to get a top nine forward, first round pick and a mid prospect or pick. Some packages that could make sense to me...
WSH: 1st + 3rd + Mangiapane
CBJ: 1st + 3rd + Kuraly/Olivier
Min: 1st + 3rd + Hartman
NYI: 1st + 3rd + Duclair
I think Brock on a 8 year term is scary. 5 years makes the most sense for us and probably not for him so if we trade him, that’s probably the main reason and not that we don’t have the right center for him.
sandwichbird2023
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Seeing the emergence of Dylan Strome in Washington, I wonder if a similar development can happen with Kirby Dach? Both tall rangy centers that were drafted high due to their potential. Both had a bit of an injury issues early in their career (Dach more so it seems like). Both underachieved with the team that drafted them, moved on to a second team and underachieved there too. But by the 3rd team Strome has got over his injury issues and all the pressure of a high pick has been removed, he was given top 6 mins with some good offensive player and finally flourished.
Does Dach have that kind of potential, and can we buy low on him? Its a very long shot but if he works out similar to Strome, that would go a long way to solving our 1C issue. Dach is around the age that Strome was when he went to Washington, there are some similarities in their situations.
Does Dach have that kind of potential, and can we buy low on him? Its a very long shot but if he works out similar to Strome, that would go a long way to solving our 1C issue. Dach is around the age that Strome was when he went to Washington, there are some similarities in their situations.
Not sure why Montreal would want to give up on him.
Strome showed glimpses of being a top line center. Dach is not a good hockey player imo.
krutovsdonut
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rakell is an interesting idea. productive. shoots right. cheap. biggest negative is signed too far out.
it might be a year late for nyquist but he's a rental and looked ok against us.
sting101
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i've been thinking the same thing.
Dont know how much he can pull himself out of past injury issues (and they were catastrophic) but even if he can't become a good 2 way top6 C he very much could still be a good RW/C and PP player in the top6 as a complementary guy.
Super smart talented player. Physically he hasn't got off the runway really. Excellent buy low candidate like i was saying about Vilardi before he broke out in LA
FYI, Canucks currently have about 7.3m in cap space. They are in-line to have about 12.88m by the trade deadline.
So, the theory is, that management, coaching and Pettersson all forgot about an injury that Pettersson was already diagnosed with last year and spoke openly about multiple times? But this injury is also mostly or partly responsible for this 11.6 million dollar play to score at half the rate that he would normally score at.
Like, who knows, maybe Dhaliwal is just wrong. Its not like he necessarily knows. But I don't really like your theory.
sting101
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6 yrs is my threshold. makes his last 2 yrs as a 32-33 yr old probably pretty poor but we have nothing for top end talent anymore up front if we move off him and shopping in the UFA market there are only 2 clear upgrades and they are probably getting 14m and picking out of a Canadian market if they move on from their current teams.
It might be time to look at blowing the entire core up to reset and have more top end talents to be a realistic contender
Scumbag Frank
Hard Time in the Slammer
This isn't true unless there's something I'm missing.
BU's regular season goes until March 8
2024-25 Hockey East Men's Composite Schedule - Hockey East Association
Hockey East schedule
hockeyeastonline.com
BU is currently the 3rd seed. Hockey East playoffs for the 3rd seed start on March 15th and depending on how far BU goes, ends on March 21st. So that would be the earliest he's available if they lose.
2025 Hockey East Championship - Hockey East Association
The Hockey East Association men's league enters its 41st season on the ice in 2024-25
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Then if they make it to the Frozen Four, that ends on April 12:
Frozen Four: Future dates and sites
A complete listing of the future dates and sites for the men’s DI college ice hockey championship.
www.ncaa.com
So how can Willander be available by end of Feb?
On Soucy's trade value: this summer's crop of top 4 D is going to be extremely scarce. Anyone available that has recently been a top 4 D like Soucy should have value.
Maybe as a favor to the agent Rick is trying to downplay Soucy's value to make it harder for Canucks to move him since Soucy wants to stay. Hence all the whining about Canucks getting a bad reputation.
Did you miss the big trade that just happened?
Hansen
tyler motte simp
Friedman never got a fair shake here
He was so much more effective than Juulsen and just as physical
He was so much more effective than Juulsen and just as physical
Haha Miller was sort of...our Kesler was he not?
But more importantly we need Pete to start playing like he's worth the price tag.
sting101
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yes that's why we are so screwed
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