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[wonton15]

Quiet on the Lankinen front isn’t necessarily bad. I imagine they’re negotiating. I’d be more concerned if we were hearing more come out like the Boeser talks.

 

[VanJack]

The Yardbarker has an interesting interview up with Brad Richardson, and his comments on the departed J.T. Miller.

He says he warned Allvin about Miller's impact the dressing room with younger players. He added that the only way to 'calm him down' was to surround him with veteran players.

I'm guessing J.T. might have had a more prickly relationship with a number of young guys--even beyond Elias Pettersson. For what it's worth, it is an intriguing take from a former Canuck, and the full podcast is worth a listen.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I’d much rather have someone with Willander’s potential on our right side than Dobson tbh.

There’s nobody in the league I’d trade Willander for other than like Brady Tkachuk.

 

[Ernie]

He has never been a PPG player until maybe this season. I say maybe because he is currently 1 point over PPG.

You can rationalize oh he doesn't get enough minutes and all that but at the end of the day, the best you can do is maybe argue that he's a PPG winger that has a bad playoff record. He hasn't even hit 30 goals yet so you can't even argue yet he is a 30 goal scorer. So far in the existing flatish cap world, those players don't get more than 7.5M, if they do, who is the comparable? The closest comparable i find is Hagel and he's at 6.5M but I guess that is lowered by the term. So I think something around 7ish in a flat cap world is a pretty reasonable assumption. Cap is going up by like 30% in 2 years, so i guess aggressively you can argue he should get 9, that's still like way below what you are suggesting which is 12.

He's been very near a point per game for several seasons previous to this.

You don't have to like it but smart teams are going to be making very big offers to this player. If he makes it to free agency he'll be able to take his pick. He's easily the 3rd best forward who will be UFA this year after Rantanen and Marner.

 

[VanillaCoke]

I’d much rather have someone with Willander’s contract on our right side than Dobson tbh.

 

[Bonham]

I’d much rather have someone with Willander’s potential on our right side than Dobson tbh.

Agree.

I’d much rather have someone with Willander’s contract on our right side than Dobson tbh.

Also agree.

 

[Ernie]

these are all replacement level players

at his best boeser is a very good winger but at his worst he's in that group. i'm not saying he's trash and he needs to go i just think any team committing to him for 5+ years is going to regret it hard

I think 6 years would be fine as long as there is very limited trade protection near the end. Even if he tails off for the last couple of seasons they should be able to move him though they may have to eat some salary.

 

[Wisp]

these are all replacement level players

at his best boeser is a very good winger but at his worst he's in that group. i'm not saying he's trash and he needs to go i just think any team committing to him for 5+ years is going to regret it hard

Again, Boeser's worst is much better than their best. Boeser's worst is Conor Garland's best. Solid floor, high ceiling. Not saying I'd WANT to pay for that floor on the chance age related decline makes it Boeser's status-quo production. I agree the Canucks have to be weary and careful.

 

[credulous]

besides the wisdom of locking boeser up i don't know why everyone here is so anxious to commit to this roster. you give 8m to boeser, 2m to o'connor, 2m to suter and 5m to lankinen and you have just enough left for a couple league min signings to fill out the roster

 

[Peter Griffin]

If you have Dobson/Hronek in your top-four you probably feel comfortable trading away Willander as there won’t be meaningful minutes for him in the next 6-8 years.

Oh absolutely. I’m just saying Pettersson doesn’t have the value to land both Barzal and Dobson without another significant piece involved and Willander would probably be it. Maybe Hronek.

 

[Big zZz]

I’d much rather have someone with Willander’s potential on our right side than Dobson tbh.

There’s nobody in the league I’d trade Willander for other than like Brady Tkachuk.

Id bet my bottom dollar that willander doesn't reach what Dobson is now.

I like Ehlers a lot. Think he'd pair well with Petey, can carry the puck through the neutral zone, incredible on the PP. AFP's projected contract for him is 6 x $7.5M which I'd do in a heartbeat.

I'm a big ehlers fan too. I'm all for signing him if we let Brock walk. And like you, I think he meshes well with Petey. He has the speed and puck control that this team likes.

I am worried about his playoff performances though.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

I would be monitoring St-Louis they have a bunch of interesting pieces. If they do decide to rebuild. Kyrou would be a great replacement for Boeser. Thomas would be amazing great top 6 center addition.

 

[Nuckles]

Hello it's me, Vector.



- Blues could move Brayden Schenn, testing/gauging the market. "Return would have to be mammoth." - Dreger
- CBJ plans to be moderate buyers, not going after big names. Wants to add a top 9 winger (rental), not moving 1sts. - LeBrun
- NYI might not move Nelson, but LeBrun doesn't think they'll re-sign him either.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Hello it's me, Vector.



- Blues could move Brayden Schenn, testing/gauging the market. "Return would have to be mammoth." - Dreger
- CBJ plans to be moderate buyers, not going after big names. Wants to add a top 9 winger (rental), not moving 1sts. - LeBrun
- NYI might not move Nelson, but LeBrun doesn't think they'll re-sign him either.

Lou Lamoriello at his finest.

 

[Hodgy]

Hello it's me, Vector.



- Blues could move Brayden Schenn, testing/gauging the market. "Return would have to be mammoth." - Dreger
- CBJ plans to be moderate buyers, not going after big names. Wants to add a top 9 winger (rental), not moving 1sts. - LeBrun
- NYI might not move Nelson, but LeBrun doesn't think they'll re-sign him either.

Why would Brayden Schenn get a mammoth return given his age and decline? He's on pace to score less than 50 points this year and he's got two more years after this at 6.5 and those are his age 34 and 35 seasons.

 

[arttk]

He's been very near a point per game for several seasons previous to this.

You don't have to like it but smart teams are going to be making very big offers to this player. If he makes it to free agency he'll be able to take his pick. He's easily the 3rd best forward who will be UFA this year after Rantanen and Marner.

I am not saying I like it or dislike it. I am saying or should’ve been more clear is I just don’t see teams throwing away money like that by introducing hyper inflation by giving 12M to Ehlers.

Why would Brayden Schenn get a mammoth return given his age and decline? He's on pace to score less than 50 points this year and he's got two more years after this at 6.5 and those are his age 34 and 35 seasons.

Feels like every time we see headline saying return could be MASSIVE and then its 1st, B prospect and roster player and maybe another low round pick.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Lou Lamoriello at his finest.

Inb4 we're a first round exit and Boeser walks. I'm actually planning for that happening based on all reported rumors.

 

[Wisp]

- Blues could move Brayden Schenn, testing/gauging the market. "Return would have to be mammoth." - Dreger

lol mammoth? he's a 33 year old center who tops out at 20 goals and 50 points. Then again, 32 year old Granlund got a first, but even Granlund is more productive.

 

[vancityluongo]

“Young Petey” is Junior.

pettersgrandson

 

[Wisp]

Inb4 we're a first round exit and Boeser walks. I'm actually planning for that happening based on all reported rumors.

They should trade Boeser and not use him as an internal rental. Having had to trade Miller they need the rental assets to upgrade at center later.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Inb4 we're a first round exit and Boeser walks. I'm actually planning for that happening based on all reported rumors.

We are almost guaranteed to make the playoffs and have the players that could make a run. The Islanders don’t even have a 50% of making the playoffs. I think they have like a 15% imo. Very different situations.

 

[wonton15]

Brayden Schenn is the exact type of player that playoff teams froth over because of his truculence. Same type of mold as Ryan O’Reilly. Will definitely fetch a 1st+

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Hello it's me, Vector.



- Blues could move Brayden Schenn, testing/gauging the market. "Return would have to be mammoth." - Dreger
- CBJ plans to be moderate buyers, not going after big names. Wants to add a top 9 winger (rental), not moving 1sts. - LeBrun
- NYI might not move Nelson, but LeBrun doesn't think they'll re-sign him either.

No one is going to offer a mammoth return for Schenn.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Why would Brayden Schenn get a mammoth return given his age and decline? He's on pace to score less than 50 points this year and he's got two more years after this at 6.5 and those are his age 34 and 35 seasons.

like o'reilly, braeden schenn would be an interesting win now move if he had less term. but you're not getting 3 more useful years out of him.

if i went that way i'd go o'reilly. cheaper and better at the role.

 

[Peen]

We are almost guaranteed to make the playoffs and have the players that could make a run. The Islanders don’t even have a 50% of making the playoffs. I think they have like a 15% imo. Very different situations.

Not without two more forwards. Three of the cogs who elevated our PP in Miller, Kuzmenko, Horvat.. haven’t been replaced.

Pettersson isn’t a threat right now and hasn’t been for a year.