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[Mr. Canucklehead]

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Vector's NHL Transaction Tracker.

Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[Burke's Evil Spirit]

To be clear, I'd be fine with Toffoli as a 'plan B' at 1 year/$4 million or something.

But Toffoli is not going to get 1 year. Or $4 million. He's going to get the Eriksson/Backes special and it's going to be a bad contract for whoever signs him.

Yep. I only really see three good one-year options on the UFA market: Skinner, Arvidsson and Zucker. Would be okay with any of them.

We'll likely see some more after buyouts/qualifying offers happen.

Edit - Forgot Skinner.

 

[Vector]

 

[Peen]

From 2022: Fastest Skaters

Here are the top speeds that every Canucks skater has hit this season, sorted from highest to lowest speed (in mph).

		Top Speed
1	PDG	22.63
2	Miller	22.58
3	Hughes	22.16
4	Höglander	21.75
5	Joshua	21.68
6	Beauvillier	21.38
7	Pettersson	21.34
8	Friedman	21.26
9	Hronek	21.26
10	Garland	21.09
11	Studnicka	21.04
12	Mikheyev	20.86
13	Cole	20.52
14	Soucy	20.47
15	Boeser	20.43
16	Kuzmenko	20.12
17	Suter	20.12
18	Myers	19.65
19	Hirose	19.40
20	Juulsen	18.96

My response to how much a peak straight line speed matters is not a nice one

 

[Vector]

Yep. I only really see three good one-year options on the UFA market: Skinner, Arvidsson and Zucker. Would be okay with any of them.

We'll likely see some more after buyouts/qualifying offers happen.

Edit - Forgot Skinner.

I'd be very interested in Arvidsson but someone is going to get weird and offer him way more term than is justified. I don't have a problem offering him 2 years at a decent cap hit, though.

 

[Jerry the great]

He was very good in the AHL. At the very least he's good depth and an leader at that level.

when he thanked Abby for the memories after the season was over, I kind of wondered if maybe they told him he was going to be a 7/8 guy in Vancouver next season.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Definitely would prefer an upgrade on DeSmith but certainly not almost everyone assumed silovs was the instant backup, he's best in Abby until a callup is required.
Also like Tolopilo and would be fine selling high on silovs even though I'd rather keep them both and see what happens.


Tanev & Toffoli come here for under eight and a half million imo.

No thanks to arvidsson, rather duclair, still really want Kostin.

 

[Vector]

when he thanked Abby for the memories after the season was over, I kind of wondered if maybe they told him he was going to be a 7/8 guy in Vancouver next season.

It's an interesting thought but those spots are always open for competition. If things work out where Juulsen, Friedman, and Woo all make the team that leaves their 6,7,&8 all right handed with only Friedman being someone they trust on his off-hand.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Sayonara (さようなら) Demko.

This is the way.

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weird. i thought there was a team chemistry issue with de smith where the team did not like playing in front of him.

 

[Vector]

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

My response to how much a peak straight line speed matters is not a nice one

That’s why moving on from Mikheyev & Lafferty allows this team to play quicker as they had good straight line speed but lacked agility, quick pivots, & moving the puck quick.

Still can't believe we have our entire 3rd line locked up for 10M.

Meh. We had our entire 4th line locked up for 10M 6 years ago.

 

[Jerry the great]

From 2022: Fastest Skaters

Here are the top speeds that every Canucks skater has hit this season, sorted from highest to lowest speed (in mph).

		Top Speed
1	PDG	22.63
2	Miller	22.58
3	Hughes	22.16
4	Höglander	21.75
5	Joshua	21.68
6	Beauvillier	21.38
7	Pettersson	21.34
8	Friedman	21.26
9	Hronek	21.26
10	Garland	21.09
11	Studnicka	21.04
12	Mikheyev	20.86
13	Cole	20.52
14	Soucy	20.47
15	Boeser	20.43
16	Kuzmenko	20.12
17	Suter	20.12
18	Myers	19.65
19	Hirose	19.40
20	Juulsen	18.96

those are not consistent with league supplied data. what's the source?

 

[sting101]

Arvidsson is my Lekkerimaki placeholder if we can squeeze him in. 1 yr show me deal. He might do it because playing in our top6 with Pettersson or Miller and even our PP which i believe he could fit into would catapult his next deal vs whatever crap he gets offered this summer that has term attached to it.

Makes a lot of sense....would be a really good mentor for Hoglander too to see a guy his size just bring it and make things happen

 

[krutovsdonut]

From 2022: Fastest Skaters

Here are the top speeds that every Canucks skater has hit this season, sorted from highest to lowest speed (in mph).

		Top Speed
1	PDG	22.63
2	Miller	22.58
3	Hughes	22.16
4	Höglander	21.75
5	Joshua	21.68
6	Beauvillier	21.38
7	Pettersson	21.34
8	Friedman	21.26
9	Hronek	21.26
10	Garland	21.09
11	Studnicka	21.04
12	Mikheyev	20.86
13	Cole	20.52
14	Soucy	20.47
15	Boeser	20.43
16	Kuzmenko	20.12
17	Suter	20.12
18	Myers	19.65
19	Hirose	19.40
20	Juulsen	18.96

myers can go faster but he needs more runway to stop.

 

[bossram]

Guentzel and Heinen up front please now, Allvin.

 

[Vector]

I'm very curious what the Hurricanes do if they can't sign Guentzel. Do they try and trade his rights Saturday evening/Sunday morning?

 

[Vector]

Guentzel and Heinen up front please now, Allvin.

No defence?

 

[Jerry the great]

It's an interesting thought but those spots are always open for competition. If things work out where Juulsen, Friedman, and Woo all make the team that leaves their 6,7,&8 all right handed with only Friedman being someone they trust on his off-hand.

Juulsen to the top 4!!!!

 

[Bleach Clean]

I don't think he's getting less than $5 and I don't want to give him 3 years.

His skating looked awful last year. I'd rather do a 1-year to Skinner then if those are the options.

His last two contract AAVs were $4.6m (3 yrs) and $4.25m (4 yrs) respectively. He has bounced around the league. He liked it here. If he chooses winning/environment like Joshua has done, I could see him repeat that $4m~ AAV on a good team.

I don't think the Canucks go to $5m+ AAV for him.

If you had to give him 3 yrs at $4.5m, would you do it?

(Skinner is not a fit for Tocchet, imo)

I wonder if the team is looking at insurance for Brock.

I hadn't thought of this, but this is a very good point. They may be hedging against an expected departure here (a la Pettersson/Lindholm).

I would line it up for the OEL buyout and no longer.

Ideally, yes, but he's going to want that 3rd year.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

myers can go faster but he needs more runway to stop.

Lol true. As a previous poster mentioned straightaway speed is overrated; agility, quickness, doggedness on the puck etc. is much more important. Matthew Tkachuck is arguably the slowest player in the NHL and he’s a fantastic player.

 

[bossram]

No defence?

Oh for sure. That's just who I like up front.

My UFA preferences on the back end would be Dillon and Carrier.

 

[Jerry the great]

I'd be very interested in Arvidsson but someone is going to get weird and offer him way more term than is justified. I don't have a problem offering him 2 years at a decent cap hit, though.

I can see him prioritizing fit and a short term deal....and there probably isn't a better fit for him out there. Tre Kronor line. how sweede it is.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Like this, let Silovs play 70 games in the AHL. He’s our future superstar goalie, why rush him? Bring him up for the playoffs.

 

[Vector]

Oh for sure. That's just who I like up front.

My UFA preferences on the back end would be Dillon and Carrier.

Just the ran the numbers with AFP's projections for Guentzel, Heinen, Dillon, and Carrier and doesn't look good for fitting them in. It would be a 21 man roster, about 0.6m over the cap, and no back-up goalie.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Just the ran the numbers with AFP's projections for Guentzel, Heinen, Dillon, and Carrier and doesn't look good for fitting them in. It would be a 21 man roster, about 0.6m over the cap, and no back-up goalie.

If you're adding Guentzel and Heinen up front for sure you're shipping out Garland - I can't see this front office having four tiny guys in the top 9 (including Hoglander).

 

[StrictlyCommercial]

One thought for roster construction:

To fully utilize Poolman's LTIR, we are going to need at least 3 waiver exempt or waived players to make the team. I would assume we will see some roster shenanigans to maximize the cap room available and you need waiver flexibility to do it.