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[TruGr1t]

Zero chance the team meaningfully improves this offseason.

I'd bet money on it.

1. Team has limited assets to trade.
2. Every team has money to spend.
3. Some players don't want to play in a Canadian market.
4. Team is average and abysmal at scoring.
5. Tocchet might be gone so possible uncertainty around coaching staff.
6. Miller/EP circus that went on for months.
7. Publicly throwing players under the bus.
8. No 1C if EP can't turn it around.

So they can talk all they want, I see this offseason ending up like last where you get a couple mid tier signings but won't do much to help the main area of need: scoring.

Pure Canucks, accrue cap space to actually do something when cap space is no longer worth anything or at a premium. Have no cap space during the entire cycle when it was worth something.

 

[Bgav]

Of course they did. Absolute plugs were fetching 2nd round picks. I don't need sources to tell me what did or didn't happen. Just look at what other players fetched and put two and two together.

Management fumbled the bag

It's ownership. Playoff mandate, they don't take care about picks or building a real contender. Nothing will change unless they sell.

 

[TruGr1t]

It's ownership. Playoff mandate, they don't take care about picks or building a real contender. Nothing will change unless they sell.

This is a weird situation because, if you follow this logic, wouldn't ownership have demanded they trade some futures to improve the team since this team is bad, fading down the stretch, missing their star player, and has a slew of games coming up against top teams in the Western Conference. Or maybe it's some type of settlement between ownership and management where the try to limp into the playoffs and don't move futures? I don't know, it doesn't seem like they were all-in on the playoffs here. This group is probably more likely to miss at this point.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

does anyone wanna be best friends

 

[Bgav]

This is a weird situation because, if you follow this logic, wouldn't ownership have demanded they trade some futures to improve the team since this team is bad, fading down the stretch, missing their star player, and has a slew of games coming up against top teams in the Western Conference. Or maybe it's some type of settlement between ownership and management where the try to limp into the playoffs and don't move futures? I don't know, it doesn't seem like they were all-in on the playoffs here. This group is probably more likely to miss at this point.

I think they know this team has no chance of winning, but retaining Boeser and Suter significantly boosts their odds of securing that 8th spot.

They probably will miss the playoffs now tho, which is pretty funny. If they lose the upcoming b2b the season is over. So they held on to these guys for like a week of meaning full hockey.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

does anyone wanna be best friends

Hey it's me, ur best friend

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Hey it's me, ur best friend

Also best friend #2 bc shit even I wouldn’t wanna be my best friend…lol

 

[Quinning]

Are they seriously trying to spin the narrative that there were no quality offers for a retained Boeser?

This is a weird situation because, if you follow this logic, wouldn't ownership have demanded they trade some futures to improve the team since this team is bad, fading down the stretch, missing their star player, and has a slew of games coming up against top teams in the Western Conference. Or maybe it's some type of settlement between ownership and management where the try to limp into the playoffs and don't move futures? I don't know, it doesn't seem like they were all-in on the playoffs here. This group is probably more likely to miss at this point.

They care about literally nothing other than Games 3 and 4 to boost their bottom line. That's it. They have zero foresight towards consequences of poor decision making beyond the next few months.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Are they seriously trying to spin the narrative that there were no quality offers for a retained Boeser?



They care about literally nothing other than Games 3 and 4 to boost their bottom line. That's it. They have zero foresight towards consequences of poor decision making beyond the next few months.

I don’t about that but everything that has come out and the way Carolina does business makes me more inclined to believe that Boesers value is absolute crap. Books out on him being a passenger.

 

[Nick Lang]

If Boeser takes a one year deal trying to rebuild his value, then he would really Klingberg'd himself. Unless he somehow finds a way to reunite with JTM (or a center of that calibre or better), Brock is probably heading toward a pretty steep decline.

I'm nervous with the rumor that the team made him offers on multiple days last week, reek of desperation. If Brock comes down a little from his ask, we risk having a massive anchor on the book for a long time. I wish Brock all the best and hope he gets his bag elsewhere.


They pretty much have to somehow land Marner or Ehlers. We don't have enough assets to trade for two top 6 forwards, yet we need at least 2 (probably more) of them. Getting one "for free" via UFA is vital.

I agree with all of this but I'm highly doubtful we'll land either of those guys. We'd have to really pony up and overpay.

 

[Quinning]

I don’t about that but everything that has come out and the way Carolina does business makes me more inclined to believe that Boesers value is absolute crap. Books out on him being a passenger.

Boeser has never been a play driver other than in his rookie season. The back injury absolutely f***ed his ceiling.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Seravalli on Canucks Central saying the Canucks were never offered a first for Boeser. And the Canes never talked to the Canucks about Boeser.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Boeser has never been a play driver other than in his rookie season. The back injury absolutely f***ed his ceiling.

Also the Sedins helped give him looks with the puck where he could have picked his nose and still got a great shot off.

 

[Quinning]

Also the Sedins helped give him looks with the puck where he could have picked his nose and still got a great shot off.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

That was the exact goal I was thinking of

Had one against SJ as well that year IIRC

Closest I’ve seen to his Pennsylvania revenge tour was against Nashville last year

 

[StreetHawk]

Are they seriously trying to spin the narrative that there were no quality offers for a retained Boeser?

They care about literally nothing other than Games 3 and 4 to boost their bottom line. That's it. They have zero foresight towards consequences of poor decision making beyond the next few months.

Beauv at $1 mill to Wash landed a 2nd. Assuming retained, that's $3.3 mill to Wash (not sure on their cap situation on being able to take that). Would be $800K or so give or taken for the final 1/4 of the season vs the $250K of Beauv.

That's the one when I do wonder about Brock's value when the Caps make that call. Zetterlund for the Jets, I get since he is a RFA so they get an extra year and even with that they only gave up a 2nd.

Be it contract negotiations or trade, have to know what the value is around the NHL. Like Carolina thought they could get a deal with Rant done but couldn't. Ended up weakening their club for the upcoming PO instead of upgrading it like they had intended.

 

[Canucks LB]

Allvin straight up lied, sorry but he did, no doubt in my mind.

 

[Canucks LB]

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Allvin straight up lied, sorry but he did, no doubt in my mind.

I think he was actually too honest, at his own detriment.

 

[Canucks LB]

 

[kanucks25]

So half the reports say they were offered a 1st, half saying they weren't.

My guess is they were offered a 1st but like the original report suggests, there was more to the deal that the Canucks did not like / they weren't offered a 1st straight up.

 

[Canucks LB]

I think he was actually too honest, at his own detriment.

Nothing is more annoying, not you by the way, then people saying people are overreacting about the deadline.

There are multiple reports now saying they could have got a 1st in the last 30 min.

They chose to stick pat and do nothing.

This is nothing more than an absolutely massive organizational failure from top to bottom, there’s no sugarcoat in this whatsoever.

People have every right to be furious about this, it’s a slap in the face to the fans if he walks as a ufa.

And I’ve been pretty quiet about this as a whole, but I have to share my thoughts

 

[Agent007]

So half the reports say they were offered a 1st, half saying they weren't.

My guess is they were offered a 1st but like the original report suggests, there was more to the deal that the Canucks did not like / they weren't offered a 1st straight up.

perhaps a conditional first (similar to what Florida paid for Marchand)

 

[StreetHawk]

So half the reports say they were offered a 1st, half saying they weren't.

My guess is they were offered a 1st but like the original report suggests, there was more to the deal that the Canucks did not like / they weren't offered a 1st straight up.

Seems like they never got a straight pick for Boeser. I get the usual take a back an ahl contract off us to even out the contracts side.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I don’t about that but everything that has come out and the way Carolina does business makes me more inclined to believe that Boesers value is absolute crap. Books out on him being a passenger.

I don't think it's only that, but between all the drama surrounding the Canucks this season and the uncertainty of Pettersson's play, I suspect teams were hoping to take advantage. Basically, they were hoping we'd be desperate just to make any sort of move. Hence the lowballs.

If that is the case, good on Allvin not making a trade. It'd worse giving Boeser away for pennies on the dollar after being essentially forced to do that with Miller.