You mean Demko and Hughes being out and Petey and Brock struggling is not something notable?
Please enlighten us with what would be notable if our best players missing for whatever reasons is not.
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Please enlighten us with what would be notable if our best players missing for whatever reasons is not.
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Exactly. People aren't dumb and neither are the players. Clearly everyone can see the team is lacking in many areas. This group should have made moves for the future of the team, to show the fans for once that they give a sh!t. Personally I wouldn't be rewarding them by buying anymore tickets or merchandise moving forward. Not in a it'll make a difference kind of way I'm just not wasting/giving my money to these pricks.
I don't mind trying to stay in a playoff race as a one off here and there but not after all the crap this fanbase has endured. We deserved to have the smart decisions made for once. Big negative for me as a fan. They neither went for it or built for he future. Rubbish. Really not looking forward to rolling out this same crap next year.
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i hope this is more damage control spin. i can't wrap my head around how dumb this sounds. supposedly, we are selling rentals at the tdl and buyers of expiring ufas are demanding our top nearly ready prospects in order to take them off our hands?
how did we get into such discussions? those are the type of players we're supposed to be asking for not being asked for.
i guess i can believe carolina did it, because carolina. i do not believe the rest of the league did it unless we were asking for returns they thought were way above the value of our rentals and replying in kind.
Those aren’t forwards pal. Like, can you just stop and move on. This is ridiculous.
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I think you have a misunderstanding of how competitive players are and how little they care about their team acquiring draft picks. If they’re in a playoff race and the GM trades away their 3C and top scoring winger for draft picks I think it’s fair to say the players would be disgruntled and feel disrespected by that.
Obviously it’s different if they flipped the futures for another top 6 forward, but it’s clear that wasn’t available because the management group has been open about that being their intention.
lol Hughes and Demko is like 2 of our best players. To think that them missing is not notable is hilarious and that our forward depth is not tested at all considering Brock and Petey are playing at like 30% of their cap.
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lol, you are so completely missing the point that he made. He was responding to another joke by joking that yes the foundation/defence is actually built by solid brick by brick construction. The rest of the house/forwards also appears to be solid/complete when looking from the street, but when you get in you realize the whole upper level is built from cardboard and will surely not hold up when it starts raining. The 8 people who upvoted the post also obviously got it. Accept that you didn't get it originally and move on.
The problem with that joke is that it’s been f***ing thunderstorms the whole season.
Somehow missing Hughes and Demko and having Petey and Brock providing like a fraction is somehow actually not “rainy”.
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That trade btw was hated by 99% of the fan base on this board when it happened. I am no JT fanboy in fact I think trading him was the right move.
But I was the very few that liked that trade at the time
Billy Kvcmu
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The way you described Chytil sounds exactly like Miller when he first got here.
I was the one of the few ppl who thought it could work out because he was a 50s pts player on the third line of a contender
I Was with you on the other one but not on this 1, breathe
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I don’t think anyone on this board really is hoping to pencil in Chytil in the 2C role next season, anyway. 3C, sure let’s boogie if you can find him the right wingers.
I mean is it not “raining” right now. Tell me how missing Quinn and Demko is actually no big deal.
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Nope, no misunderstanding at all. I've been heavily invested in competitive sports my whole life so I get that part. Perhaps you misunderstand that the players don't run the team. These guys should feel disrespected or disgruntled, or something for the crap performance this season and they should be made to be aware of their failures. Instead we fans always pay the price. As long as these millionaires aren't put out in any way whatsoever I suppose, even if the team is worse off for it.
So what you're saying is no team is able to trade players for draft picks, which is odd because I could have sworn I've seen it done before. Like it almost seems like we did it ourselves one day earlier. No disrespect there though I guess. For the record I would be flipping those picks for players this summer when they're available and the cap is easier to figure out. Our margins are so tight it will be a huge challenge to improve the team. Surely these players aren't so dumb and impatient they couldn't understand these concepts. Whatever though, I don't really care, I've become apathetic. I just think they're dummies and this is part of the reason we have trouble winning. Always chasing high risk low reward $$. Maybe it's time for a bold decision or two?
You're on a completely different tangent here than the OP. I thought it was clever. I mean feel free to make up your own analogy that explains your point better but I don't think his intent has anything at all to do with what you're talking about. It was just a joke
about the visual makeup of the team and how it looks better than it is.
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just checked and the jt miller incoming trade thread may well contain my worst hockey takes ever in one concentrated mass. i initially called the trade insanely bad and suggested i'd be happier if we had gotten barrie instead (i hate barrie and have always hated barrie) , then i climbed down slightly after i figured out he was 26 not 29, and i called it a misguided hail mary but somewhat forgiveable as overpayment to get a 26 year old player signed longterm. i also complained about including a 3rd in the deal.
woof. i'd say pay no attention to my initial takes but nobody does anyway, so no harm done.
They are not forwards. How do you not get that missing them isn’t relevant to how the forwards are currently constructed. And yes, Pettersson and Boeser currently aren’t very good but that’s why the analogy is to forwards being currently constructed as cardboard.
Why can’t you understand that the joke was prospective? It’s very clearly that it’s not talking about the past.
Again, the fact that Petey and Brock are currently playing like crap is exactly why the analogy is to a cardboard forward group.
it is - his joke had nothing to do with who is hurt/what's gone wrong etc.. just a joke that built on the brick by brick stuff. that is all it was.. literally NO sub context at all about any of this
The hell you talking about, apparently thunderstorm is a completely different analogy than rain eh.Nope, no misunderstanding at all. I've been heavily invested in competitive sports my whole life so I get that part. Perhaps you misunderstand that the players don't run the team. These guys should feel disrespected or disgruntled, or something for the crap performance this season and they should be made to be aware of their failures. Instead we fans always pay the price. As long as these millionaires aren't put out in any way whatsoever I suppose, even if the team is worse off for it.
So what you're saying is no team is able to trade players for draft picks, which is odd because I could have sworn I've seen it done before. Like it almost seems like we did it ourselves one day earlier. No disrespect there though I guess. For the record I would be flipping those picks for players this summer when they're available and the cap is easier to figure out. Our margins are so tight it will be a huge challenge to improve the team. Surely these players aren't so dumb and impatient they couldn't understand these concepts. Whatever though, I don't really care, I've become apathetic. I just think they're dummies and this is part of the reason we have trouble winning. Always chasing high risk low reward $$. Maybe it's time for a bold decision or two?
You're on a completely different tangent here than the OP. I thought it was clever. I mean feel free to make up your own analogy that explains your point better but I don't think his intent has anything at all to do with what you're talking about. It was just a joke
I've absolutely loved Chytil and O'Connor together. Lekkerimaki on that line has been interesting, not sure if he can develop into an offensive catalyst with the time and space the other two create for him, but a high skill playmaking winger with a shooting threat on that line I believe would be worthy of 2nd line ice time and be a brutal matchup for almost anyone because of their elite speed and apparent chemistry. I'm confident Marner stays in Toronto, but a player in his mold that can work creatively east-west while keeping up north-south would really compliment that line 5on5. Lekkerimaki has a long way to go, but at his development ceiling he would be a really good fit IMO.
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We sold the forward bricks for defensive bricks. Now we just need to sell the defensive bricks to fix the forward bricks
I think the joke of how the house is so flimsy that it would fall apart would land if it was actually true.
I mean your joke is about how our team (house)is built with a flimsy ass forward group (cardboard) and the moment it rains a little (any kind of adversity), the whole thing is gonna collapse enough it has a solid foundation (defense).
Like I said, if missing Demko and Quinn and having Petey and Brock be missing on the ice isn’t adversity (rain in your analogy), then what is it.
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Well i liked the Miller trade from day1 and also was adamant we get Theodore for Kesler plus the 1st we used for McCann who i also wanted pre draft and was my highest rated player at 24. Same could be said for Dunn in 2015 had JB not throw that away for a reclamation. Like everyone else here i wanted Tkachuk in 2016. Was saying for a couple years that i would get Bennett and Reinhart when they were depressed assets.
Tkachuk Miller Necas Boeser Horvat Reinhart McCann Bennett
Hughes Theodore Dunn Forsling
Demko
wonder if we could of won anything with that core
Tkachuk Miller Necas Boeser Horvat Reinhart McCann Bennett
Hughes Theodore Dunn Forsling
Demko
wonder if we could of won anything with that core
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Are you are saying the players now feel disrespected by management since they tried to trade away those players. Does a GM failing at his job (trading the top wing and 3c) make the players feel more confident in him?
The argument only works if allvin says he was keeling the players and never put them up for sale. A
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