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[iFan]

If Pettersson turns his game around it won’t be in Van, he’s not mentally strong enough to handle Vancouvers heavy spotlight of a market. If we can move him by the TDL for something decent we have to consider it.

 

[krutovsdonut]

So is there anyone left who doesn't want to trade Pettersson? Im firmly on the trade Pettersson bandwagon now before we are stuck with the biggest dead weight contract in the history of the game. Crazy thing is I think we can still get a really nice package for him but for the love of god he has to be traded before his new contract kicks in

So sad to type that. I loved the hype around him the year before he came over and we were watching him kill the SHL

when you've lost m2b...

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

when you've lost m2b...

Man

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Glad everyone's on my bandwagon now! Been on the trade EP wagon for over a year. Welcome.

 

[Szechwan]

I'll be giving him one more year.

If he can't get back to form with a healthy off season of training and the motivation of opposing players and Vancouver fans chirping him for being washed all year, then we are good and truly f***ed.

 

[iFan]

I'll be giving him one more year.

If he can't get back to form with a healthy off season of training and the motivation of opposing players and Vancouver fans chirping him for being washed all year, then we are good and truly f***ed.

We’re so f***ed if his play next season is what it is now plus he has a NMC to completely handcuff us. I think the move is now. Even if he does become a 80 pt player, he’s not the guy who will lead the team to a cup. At this point it’s not worth the risk.

 

[dez]

It's risky either way, Barry's value is in the toilet with his production, injury, attitude whatever, better off keeping him and hoping he bounces back unless you can find a GM who thinks they can fix him.

 

[Szechwan]

We’re so f***ed if his play next season is what it is now plus he has a NMC to completely handcuff us. I think the move is now. Even if he does become a 80 pt player, he’s not the guy who will lead the team to a cup. At this point it’s not worth the risk.

I get it.

This dude was a killer when he first came into the league. His first training camp he was swinging his dick around doing Forsberg dekes and dangling vets. Botch mentioned him specifically thinking "oh damn, this kid is serving notice to nhlers that this is his team.". He was a beast in the SHL, and lead his team in the SHL playoffs. His first taste of playoff action in the bubble he was great and went ppg.

I think that guy is still in there somewhere.

I get why people are doubting him, he f***in sucks right now. But I think it's a physical limitation he can overcome with a run of health and hard training. I think this blows up in our face spectacularly if we don't show some patience here.

Who knows though, we're all just guessing at this.

 

[arttk]

If Pettersson turns his game around it won’t be in Van, he’s not mentally strong enough to handle Vancouvers heavy spotlight of a market. If we can move him by the TDL for something decent we have to consider it.

Because the last 7 years didn’t happen obviously

 

[LemonSauceD]

Some Petey proposals:

Mittlestadt, Nichuskin, Ritchie

Soderblom, Danielsson/Brandsegg-Nygard, and a 1st

Sillinger, Chinakov, Del Bel Belluz, and a 2nd

Cozens + Quinn + 2nd or Peterka + Edstrom/Ohlund

Byfield + Clarke (highly doubt LA does this but they have a dumbass GM)

Tippett + Foerster

Barzal (straight up 1 for 1)

Norris + Batherson

 

[rypper]

Soucy probably wants to get out of here if he's not getting consistent play time. No players want to ride the bench or rotate. I think he'll waive his NTC as long as the playing situation and geography makes sense. Don't think he'll limit to just two teams.

Or we can just hold on to him... not going to give him away for free.

He's from Alberta, has played the last 4 years on the west coast, has a young family, and reportedly wants to stay in western Canada.

Limits the options.

 

[M2Beezy]

when you've lost m2b...

Man

Man I love you both

 

[iFan]

I get it.

This dude was a killer when he first came into the league. His first training camp he was swinging his dick around doing Forsberg dekes and dangling vets. Drance mentioned him specifically thinking "oh damn, this kid is serving notice the veteran nhlers that this is his team.". He was a beast in the SHL, and lead his team in the SHL playoffs. His first taste of playoff action in the bubble he was great and went ppg.

I think that guy is still in there somewhere.

I get why people are doubting him, he f***in sucks right now. But I think it's a physical limitation he can overcome with a run of health and hard training. I think this blows up in our face spectacularly if we don't show some patience here.

Who knows though, we're all just guessing at this.

There’s a huge risk either way. For me… he’s not the guy who will lead us to a cup, even before his issues. We don’t have players like Horvat or Miller to take a lot of the pressure off of him, I mean both those players are doing great with their new teams. This isn’t the market where he will turn it around. His mental toughness isn’t there to handle this market. Guys like Horvat and Miller thrived in it, Pettersson can’t if everything isn’t going peaches for him. Take in to count his contract and NMC are hands will be completely tied, we lose all leverage and will have to take back next to nothing in return and likely retain cap. It’s not worth it, imo. He sucks, it’s been over a year now and he’s play is getting worse! It’s one thing if he was getting better, he’s not.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

i feel bad that this made me happy

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I absolutely hate the idea of doing this, but they should consider trading Hughes in the offseason.

Unless he outright tells management he won't re-sign, it's not worth much of a discussion because no owner would ever allow that trade to go through, nevermind Aquilini. If Rutherford or Allvin even suggested it, they'd be out of a job.

• Canuck fans need to be classier; shouldn’t rip him apart on the day he finds out he’s out for the season

While I do agree with this in a vacuum. I wager it's far more fans voicing frustration at the fact Tocchet wouldn't stop playing him when it was beyond obvious he just couldn't handle the NHL.

If Pettersson turns his game around it won’t be in Van, he’s not mentally strong enough to handle Vancouvers heavy spotlight of a market. If we can move him by the TDL for something decent we have to consider it.

Unfortunately, there's not a single team offering anything decent for him right now. At best, I could see Buffalo doing Cozen straight or tossing in a late pick.

 

[arttk]

I get it.

This dude was a killer when he first came into the league. His first training camp he was swinging his dick around doing Forsberg dekes and dangling vets. Botch mentioned him specifically thinking "oh damn, this kid is serving notice to nhlers that this is his team.". He was a beast in the SHL, and lead his team in the SHL playoffs. His first taste of playoff action in the bubble he was great and went ppg.

I think that guy is still in there somewhere.

I get why people are doubting him, he f***in sucks right now. But I think it's a physical limitation he can overcome with a run of health and hard training. I think this blows up in our face spectacularly if we don't show some patience here.

Who knows though, we're all just guessing at this.

People here have the same short term memory as those Americans with Trump.

 

[bossram]

Francesco is going to appoint a Playoff Czar

Vote Ken Sim for Playoff Czar! Make Vancouver Great Again!

 

[Diamonddog01]

If Pettersson turns his game around it won’t be in Van, he’s not mentally strong enough to handle Vancouvers heavy spotlight of a market. If we can move him by the TDL for something decent we have to consider it.

This is where I'm at as well. He's been given every concession and opportunity here and he has still been brutal for well over a year. Eichel gets thrown out there as a comparison - does anyone think Eichel would've rebounded post surgery if he stayed in Buffalo? I think it's time to move on from this player.

 

[ManVanFan]

Most been dreaming of a selke trophy center for years. Now we have one and he sucks. Lol jk

 

[ChilliBilly]

So this is a little out of left field. Got a email today from van city about wealth management. It made some remark about investing like Gretzky. Got an email about six hours later saying sorry that email was ill considered.

It’s funny how two very respected hockey players in Oror and Gretzky have killed their image in Canada. By kissing the orange haired aass’s butt.

 

[hookshott]

Some Petey proposals:

Mittlestadt, Nichuskin, Ritchie

Soderblom, Danielsson/Brandsegg-Nygard, and a 1st

Sillinger, Chinakov, Del Bel Belluz, and a 2nd

Cozens + Quinn + 2nd or Peterka + Edstrom/Ohlund

Byfield + Clarke (highly doubt LA does this but they have a dumbass GM)

Tippett + Foerster

Barzal (straight up 1 for 1)

Norris + Batherson

Why spend the time making up trades that will never happen. There are actually GM's out there who would have to agree with you....not likely

 

[LemonSauceD]

Why spend the time making up trades that will never happen. There are actually GM's out there who would have to agree with you....not likely

U right I’ll just delete my account. No point discussing anything, we ain’t GM’s after all.

 

[DiggerDan]

I get it.

This dude was a killer when he first came into the league. His first training camp he was swinging his dick around doing Forsberg dekes and dangling vets. Botch mentioned him specifically thinking "oh damn, this kid is serving notice to nhlers that this is his team.". He was a beast in the SHL, and lead his team in the SHL playoffs. His first taste of playoff action in the bubble he was great and went ppg.

I think that guy is still in there somewhere.

I get why people are doubting him, he f***in sucks right now. But I think it's a physical limitation he can overcome with a run of health and hard training. I think this blows up in our face spectacularly if we don't show some patience here.

Who knows though, we're all just guessing at this.

I agree with this. I understand while most have given up on Petey - he's been offensively terrible and not close to living up to the new contract, but we have heard that his off-season training was inhibited by the injury and his play supports that. He looks weaker, less mobile, and less confident than in previous years. I still think he has 90-110 point Selke in him, but it will take a lot of work to get back to that.

I understand the risk, but my vote is to roll the dice, hope he can return to form, and spend $$ on another top 6 C (yes, I realize this is a big ask) that hopefully can get us back to form next year. I won't give up all hope this year, but my real hope lies in a strong off season and next year.

I also still believe that this coaching system "isn't it." I've been saying this for some time - I think Tochhet is a great coach overall, but the system no longer works.

 

[brock hughes007]

My question is what happened to this teams high offense. Miller Petty Boeser even Kuzmenko were all scoring and goals where coming in easy.Then Tocchet comes in changes the whole dam system around .All of a sudden everyone stops scoring.Wants the dump and chase and low scoring games.Sorry but I'm putting most of this on Tocchet and his system for this teams awful season.