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[God]

same question - why is it weird if a 20-something doesn't care to have a personal relationship with a pair of 40 year old dads just because they're the same country? when you were younger did you have a personal relationship after hours with your older colleagues?

it's actually kind of unusual, actually!

Yeah, because there are casual after-work functions that you go to. You actually just stopped interacting with your older colleagues straight up outside of work? To me, that's a bit strange.

Horvat learned a bunch from the Sedins, who in turn learned from Naslund and Linden. And yeah, the gap in this case is larger because it wasn't a direct succession, but if EP40 wears an A for the team, a minimal expectation is that he's going to be a leader on the team. Right now he's giving stupid curt answers about the media, and it seems that he isn't turning towards an excellent source of advice for guidance. That's not a good thing to hear. I'm hoping we hear otherwise.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

just some ideas for trade deadline.

washington:brock boeser ,van gets henrik lapierre 2025 1st+another roster player

njd:pius suter van:3rd round pick 2025 vgk.

nyr:carson soucy van: 2026 3rd round.

In this scenario, what do we end up trading EP for in 1 year?

 

[David71]

In this scenario, what do we end up trading EP for in 1 year?

eichel like return. or depends if petey goes back to being a 80-90 pt centerman better value back? 1st+more.

 

[DFAC]

same question - why is it weird if a 20-something doesn't care to have a personal relationship with a pair of 40 year old dads just because they're the same country? when you were younger did you have a personal relationship after hours with your older colleagues?

it's actually kind of unusual, actually!

edit: am somewhat reminded of when Nicklas Jensen looked like he wanted to jump off a cliff the 51st time he was asked about if he knew fellow Dane Jannik Hansen.

This is just.... wrong.

Petey should absolutely be getting all the advice and mentorship he can from the Twins not only because they are both Hall of Famers and the definition of hard work but because they went through similar struggles/criticisms from the fanbase and media in their early careers.

Not doing so simply reeks of ego and a lack of self awareness. Not traits you want in your franchise centre. You think guys like Crosby and MacKinnon would do the same? No shot.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

eichel like return. or depends if petey goes back to being a 80-90 pt centerman better value back? 1st+more.

Fair enough for the right player profiles I'm open to it. But I always felt like Datsyuk was a poor comparison to Petey. The right one is obviously Kopitar. He has the fire in him. He needs to fuel it.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Pettersson is going to be forced to do the grouse grind with the Sedins this offseason and blow both of his knees.

Brough is just throwing fuel to the fire regarding Pettersson because he’s run through every other theory and they need to fill air time. Last week it’s the yips, now the relationship with the Sedins.

I’d keep Pettersson, ‘retool’ him in the offseason with a babysitter/trainer/psychologist.

thissssss

i really wish ppl would stop giving these guys' attention. @God is already speaking it as fact. such a nothing burger

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

This is just.... wrong.

Petey should absolutely be getting all the advice and mentorship he can from the Twins not only because they are both Hall of Famers and the definition of hard work but because they went through similar struggles/criticisms from the fanbase and media in their early careers.

Not doing so simply reeks of ego and a lack of self awareness. Not traits you want in your franchise centre. You think guys like Crosby and MacKinnon would do the same? No shot.

who said he wasn't??!

this post reeks of a lack of critical thinking; it's not weird. ya'll slurping up this media bait.

i mentored under someone for three years... owe half my career to the guy. never once had a beer with him.

 

[David71]

Fair enough for the right player profiles I'm open to it. But I always felt like Datsyuk was a poor comparison to Petey. The right one is obviously Kopitar. He has the fire in him. He needs to fuel it.

petey doesnt show emotion. at all. its like he lost his drive for the game. he needs to see a sports psychologist along with rehabbing his injuries this offseason to be the same elite player he once was when he first arrived into the league. the shot the hesitation is frustrating to watch.

 

[Wisp]

This is just.... wrong.

Petey should absolutely be getting all the advice and mentorship he can from the Twins not only because they are both Hall of Famers and the definition of hard work but because they went through similar struggles/criticisms from the fanbase and media in their early careers.

Not doing so simply reeks of ego and a lack of self awareness. Not traits you want in your franchise centre. You think guys like Crosby and MacKinnon would do the same? No shot.

Lol, they're his colleagues, he can get it in working hours. They basically retired and took a break as soon as he started his NHL career. He won the Calder in his first season and was pretty much an instant success in the NHL. I get it we love the Sedins but expecting players from from different generations and family situations and be buddies is so silly. This is such a nothing story.

 

[Wisp]

Yeah, because there are casual after-work functions that you go to. You actually just stopped interacting with your older colleagues straight up outside of work? To me, that's a bit strange.

Horvat learned a bunch from the Sedins, who in turn learned from Naslund and Linden. And yeah, the gap in this case is larger because it wasn't a direct succession, but if EP40 wears an A for the team, a minimal expectation is that he's going to be a leader on the team. Right now he's giving stupid curt answers about the media, and it seems that he isn't turning towards an excellent source of advice for guidance. That's not a good thing to hear. I'm hoping we hear otherwise.

Man, they weren't going to after work function either they were going home to their families. I went home and did my own shit. Some people went drinking I guess. No one I cared to hang out with. Now I'm the older guy and I go home to my family and don't hang out with the younger guys. Nothing that can't be done during the work day.

Horvat was the Sedins team mate. They played together. When Pettersson played the Sedins just retired and they were just family guy alumni living elsewhere in town while Pettersson was busy starting his NHL career with his own team mates. The guys mentoring Petey were guy playing with him - Elder and Tanev were vets on the team, weren't they? The Sedins were being full time dads, he was winning the Calder.

 

[F A N]

same question - why is it weird if a 20-something doesn't care to have a personal relationship with a pair of 40 year old dads just because they're the same country? when you were younger did you have a personal relationship after hours with your older colleagues?

it's actually kind of unusual, actually!

I don't think it's weird or unusual. Crosby lived with Mario and undoubtedly developed a personal relationship with a "40 year old dad."

At the time I might have thought otherwise, but given what has transpired, I do think about what would have happened if the Sedins played another year and was there to mentor Petey.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Boeser taking a 3 year deal is absolutely crazy to me when he’s easily getting 6-7 years on July 1.

Especially with his injury history. Dude would be insane to take anything under 5 years even if it's slightly less money.

 

[Fatass]

just some ideas for trade deadline.

washington:brock boeser ,van gets henrik lapierre 2025 1st+another roster player

njd:pius suter van:3rd round pick 2025 vgk.

nyr:carson soucy van: 2026 3rd round.

Imo we keep Suter. Boeser is good as gone. Get the best we can and move on. He’s too slow.

 

[LemonSauceD]

would Washington do boeser 50% retained for Cristall + a cap dump straight up? 112 points and counting in 47 games is absurd. 52 points in his last 19 games.

 

[PavelBure10]

would Washington do boeser 50% retained for Cristall + a cap dump straight up? 112 points and counting in 47 games is absurd. 52 points in his last 19 games.

Would love to get Cristall but with how on fire he's been since his draft year, he probably is close to being to untouchable as you can get for a prospect. Pisses me off, once again another backyard hometown prospect getting overlooked. Just like Stankoven, Weber, Keith, Lucic, and Benn before him.

 

[ManVanFan]

would Washington do boeser 50% retained for Cristall + a cap dump straight up? 112 points and counting in 47 games is absurd. 52 points in his last 19 games.

Mangiapane and if they don't want to give up Cristall. Parascak would be alright I'd say. I also want Petr Sikora though.

So Boeser 50% for Mangiapane, Cristall or Parascak and Petr Sikora. Could even throw in Suter for a 3rd also.

 

[JT Milker]

Pettersson trade when.

would Washington do boeser 50% retained for Cristall + a cap dump straight up? 112 points and counting in 47 games is absurd. 52 points in his last 19 games.

The Canucks wouldn’t.

 

[ManVanFan]

Pettersson trade when.


The Canucks wouldn’t.

They would rather lose now than win at all. Lol.

 

[Curm]

I posted earlier that I don't believe the Sedin rumour, I want EP40 to turn things around and do well while a member of the team, but I'm pretty critical of him and do think he should be dealt before his NT kicks in.

That being said, with respect to mentoring, folks have their own experiences, but from my perspective, it's pretty rare to have personal relationships outside of working hours with someone you're mentoring or managing, especially if there's an age gap.

Not that there isn't mentoring or engagement occurring beyond typical working hours, it's just rare to be anything beyond that. In Pettersson's case, I wouldn't have an expectation this would be any different, even if they have nationality in common. MP29 as a teammate closer to his age might be a different story. The talking heads could be speculating or just stirring things up, who knows.

Anyway, I'm old, maybe the mentoring/relationship dynamic has changed since I've been out of it.

 

[Bobby9]

would Washington do boeser 50% retained for Cristall + a cap dump straight up? 112 points and counting in 47 games is absurd. 52 points in his last 19 games.

I posted a similar trade yesterday. Its a very good trade both ways imo. I didnt have the cap dump included,

 

[JT Milker]

They would rather lose now than win at all. Lol.

Trading a top 6 NHL forward while you’re fighting for a playoff spot for a 20 year old undersized winger lighting up an amateur league is bush league loser shit.

 

[Bobby9]

Trading a top 6 NHL forward while you’re fighting for a playoff spot for a 20 year old undersized winger lighting up an amateur league is bush league loser shit.

We are all Canucks

 

[ManVanFan]

Trading a top 6 NHL forward while you’re fighting for a playoff spot for a 20 year old undersized winger lighting up an amateur league is bush league loser shit.

Even with Hughes, do you actually think the Canucks would win a round? Heck even a game in the first round? Have you seen the past couple months of this team? In the past 22 games they are scoring 2.05 GPG. Watch Boeser walk for free after. Would be the most Canuck thing to do. F-ed

 

[dez]

Trading a top 6 NHL forward while you’re fighting for a playoff spot for a 20 year old undersized winger lighting up an amateur league is bush league loser shit.

Letting a top 6 forward walk for free would be an amateur tier management move.

 

[Vector]

The Wild might be f***ed. Kaprizov is out longer than they thought, possibly for the season. JEEK to miss at least a couple of weeks. Hartman still under suspension (although Good Ol' Gary decided to reduce it). They are comfortably in a playoff spot but really calls into question whether they make any moves to bolster the line-up.