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Here’s my spreadsheet for upcoming UFAs, each team’s cap situation, and a trade tracker. I update the spreadsheet daily. I use CapFriendly to create this list and AFP Analytics for the contract projections.

Edit: Spreadsheet has been updated with AFP's latest projections and I added a new section for RFAs.

Spoiler: UFAs By Position

Top-6 Forwards
Sam Reinhart	RW	28	8y/10.25m
Jake Guentzel	W	29	6y/7.94m
Steven Stamkos	LW/C	34	3y/6.30m
Jonathan Marchessault	W	33	3y/6.25m
Joe Pavelski	RW	39	1y/3.94m
Matt Duchene	RW/C	33	3y/6.46m
Sean Monahan	FW	29	3y/2.87m
Tyler Toffoli	W	32	5y/6.53m
Jonathan Drouin	W	29	4y/4.46m
Teuvo Teravainen	W	29	5y/6.13m
Vladimir Tarasenko	RW	32	3y/5.64m
Adam Henrique	LW/C	34	2y/4.60m
Chandler Stephenson	C/LW	30	5y/5.77m
Max Domi	C/RW	29	3y/4.17m
Patrick Kane	RW	35	2y/5.51m
Elias Lindholm	C/RW	29	7y/8.04m
Anthony Mantha	W	29	3y/4.40m
Daniel Sprong	W	27	3y/3.89m
Jake DeBrusk	W	27	5y/5.92m
David Perron	W	36	2y/2.80m
Tyler Bertuzzi	W	29	5y/6.00m
Anthony Duclair	W	28	3y/3.22m
Jason Zucker	W	32	3y/5.46m
Jack Roslovic	C/RW	27	3y/3.11m
Max Pacioretty	LW	35
Alexander Barabanov	W	30	3y/3.03m

Top-4 Defecemen
Shayne Gostisbehere	LD/RD	31	3y/4.38m
Brady Skjei	LD	30	6y/7.39m
Noah Hanifin	LD	27	7y/7.69m
Brandon Montour	RD	30	7y/8.71m
Oliver Ekman-Larsson	LD	32	3y/3.67m
Dylan DeMelo	RD	31	4y/5.07m
Sean Walker	LD/RD	29	4y/4.87m
Matt Roy	RD	29	4y/5.58m
TJ Brodie	LD/RD	34	3y/4.91m
Brenden Dillon	LD	33	2y/3.91m
Alexandre Carrier	RD	27	3y/3.57m
Nikita Zadorov	LD/RD	29	4y/5.10m
Chris Tanev	RD	34	3y/4.68m
Brett Pesce	RD	29	6y/6.72m
Matt Grzelcyk	LD	30	3y/4.07m
Oliver Kylington	LD/RD	27

Bottom-6 Forwards
James van Riemsdyk	W	35	1y/1.50m
Warren Foegele	W	28	4y/3.58m
Stefan Noesen	W	31	2y/3.23m
Danton Heinen	W	28
Tyler Johnson	FW	33
Alexander Wennberg	C	29	4y/4.21m
Jordan Martinook	W	31	2y/2.79m
Dakota Joshua	LW	28	3y/3.00m
Michael Amadio	W	28
Teddy Blueger	C/LW	29	2y/2.56m
Sam Lafferty	FW	29	2y/1.72m
Kiefer Sherwood	W	29
Mike Hoffman	LW	34	1y/1.86m
Tomas Tatar	W	33	1y/2.21m
Kyle Okposo	RW	36	1y/1.96m
Kasperi Kapanen	RW	27
Andrew Cogliano	LW	37
Jakob Silfverberg	W	33	2y/2.78m
Cal Clutterbuck	RW	36
Corey Perry	RW	39
Patrick Maroon	W	36
Yakov Trenin	LW/C	27	3y/3.33m
Dominik Kubalik	W	28	2y/1.34m
Anthony Beauvillier	W	27
Sam Carrick	C/RW	32
Tanner Pearson	LW	31
Zemgus Girgensons	LW/C	30	2y/1.74m
Colin Blackwell	C/RW	31
Brandon Duhaime	W	27
Nick Cousins	LW/C	30
Connor Brown	W	30
Joel Kiviranta	W	28
William Carrier	LW	29	3y/2.68m
Tyler Motte	W	29	3y/2.55m
Samuel Blais	W	28	1y/0.94m
Tyson Jost	C	26

Bottom-Pairing Defencemen
Erik Gustafsson	LD	32	3y/4.99m
Tyler Myers	RD	34	2y/2.67m
Justin Schultz	RD	33	2y/3.81m
Kevin Shattenkirk	RD	35	1y/1.37m
Jalen Chatfield	RD	28	3y/2.77m
Mike Reilly	LD	30	1y/1.24m
Dmitry Kulikov	LD/RD	33
Alec Martinez	LD	36	1y/1.7m
Tyson Barrie	RD	32	2y/3.72m
Jani Hakanpaa	RD	32	2y/2.38m
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Ian Cole	LD/RD	35	2y/3.09m
Matt Dumba	RD	29	3y/3.73m
Colin Miller	RD	31
Mark Giordano	LD	40	1y/3.11m
Marco Scandella	LD	34
Calvin De Haan	LD/RD	33
Josh Brown	RD	30
Ilya Lyubushkin	RD	30	1y/1.31m
Joel Edmundson	LD/RD	31
Troy Stecher	RD	30
Derek Forbort	LD	32
Erik Johnson	RD	36	1y/1.13m

Forward Depth
Christian Fischer	W	27
Craig Smith	RW	34
Victor Olofsson	W	28
Trevor Lewis	RW/C	37
Justin Bailey	RW	29
Kevin Stenlund	C/RW	27
Jeff Carter	RW/C	39
Ryan Carpenter	RW/C	33
Nicolas Aube-Kubel	RW	28	2y/1.53m
AJ Greer	W	27
Liam O'Brien	W	29
Chris Tierney	C	30
Mattias Janmark	W	31
Sam Gagner	RW/C	34
Brendan Smith	LD/RD	35
Eric Robinson	LW	29
Zach Parise	LW	39
Kevin Labanc	W	28	2y/1.94m
Fredrik Olofsson	C/LW	28
Alex Barre-Boulet	W	27
Matt Martin	W	35
Radim Zohorna	W	28
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare	C/LW	39
Tyler Pitlick	RW	32
Austin Watson	W	32
Tomas Nosek	LW/C	31
Jansen Harkins	LW	27
Rourke Chartier	C	28
Steven Lorentz	FW	28

Defensive Depth
Jack Johnson	LD	37
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Anthony Deangelo	RD	28	2y/1.80m
Jarred Tinordi	LD	32
Sebastian Aho	LD	28
Dakota Mermis	LD/RD	30
Jacob MacDonald	LD/RD	31
Dennis Gilbert	LD	27
Nikita Zaitsev	RD	32
Nick DeSimone	RD	29
Travis Dermott	LD/RD	27
Caleb Jones	LD/RD	27
Chad Ruhwedel	RD	34
William Lageson	LD/RD	28

Goaltenders
Cam Talbot	G	36	1y/1.89m
Ilya Samsonov	G	27	2y/3.26m
Alex Nedeljkovic	G	28	2y/2.00m
Kaapo Kahkonen	G	27	2y/2.93m
Scott Wedgewood	G	31	2y/1.57m
Casey DeSmith	G	32	1y/2.02m
Anthony Stolarz	G	30	2y/1.91m
James Reimar	G	36
Antti Raanta	G	35	1y/1.31m
David Rittich	G	31
Kevin Lankinen	G	29	1y/1.58m
Laurent Brossoit	G	31	2y/1.95m
Calvin Pickard	G	32
Martin Jones	G	34

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[MS]

This is a ridiculous take.

We know he had negative value after a 46-point season. What’s ridiculous is thinking there has been some sort of titanic change after a 47-point season.

 

[Peen]

We know he had negative value after a 46-point season. What’s ridiculous is thinking there has been some sort of titanic change after a 47-point season.

There is a huge eye test difference between those two seasons

 

[MS]

There is a huge eye test difference between those two seasons

And it might take him from ‘needs a big sweetener’ to ‘maybe gets you a 3rd round pick’.

Thinking you’re going to get a big return or significant assets for Garland is a pipe dream.

 

[Peen]

And it might take him from ‘needs a big sweetener’ to ‘maybe gets you a 3rd round pick’.

Thinking you’re going to get a big return or significant assets for Garland is a pipe dream.

That is a titanic shift

 

[arttk]

And it might take him from ‘needs a big sweetener’ to ‘maybe gets you a 3rd round pick’.

Thinking you’re going to get a big return or significant assets for Garland is a pipe dream.

Fine we’ll add Mik

 

[Wisp]

They literally couldn't give Garland away in October 2023 after a season where he had 1 less point than he had this year.

I love Garland and what he brought this year (and I don't want to move him), but you aren't getting shit for him in a trade. Like maybe a 3rd rounder or something.

In October 2023, he wasn't a 20 goal scorer, he had 3 seasons left on his deal, the league was in flat cap, and the Canucks were perceived as dog shit, and no one had any idea if this little guy could do anything in the playoffs. Might as well have been 100 years ago now.

In any case, if they need the salary for a more high-end player, he's moveable without any cost. I think he's worth a second at least. I don't know who said 'prime assets' - it wasn't me.

 

[Wisp]

That is a titanic shift

yes. let's not pretend 5million in shed cap space isn't a massive asset in itself. But it does need something worthwhile to spend it on.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

We know he had negative value after a 46-point season. What’s ridiculous is thinking there has been some sort of titanic change after a 47-point season.

While I agree with you that I doubt he has any real trade value, the other factor here is there is a LOT more cap space available this summer. It's a different market. It's not just his performance.

 

[MS]

That is a titanic shift

Ehh it’s moderately significant but as someone who doesn’t rate pick value that high … meh.

This discussion started with the claim that Garland would return ‘prime assets’ which is nonsense.

While I agree with you that I doubt he has any real trade value, the other factor here is there is a LOT more cap space available this summer. It's a different market. It's not just his performance.

And I’m acknowledging that his value has increased and we could probably get something small back for him. Just not ‘prime assets’.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

While Garland is a guy I would absolutely not want to trade and I think the value he brings is way harder to quantify and extract in a trade, I do think the fact remains that the trade market for wingers got really screwed up by the flat cap. Scoring wingers with term and a cap hit over $3.5 are hard to move for anything short of massively underwhelming returns. It’s weird, but it is what it is.

But at any rate - I wouldn’t move Garland. Guy is a warrior who showed his mettle in all the right ways this year.

 

[Wisp]

Ehh it’s moderately significant but as someone who doesn’t rate pick value that high … meh.

This discussion started with the claim that Garland would return ‘prime assets’ which is nonsense.



And I’m acknowledging that his value has increased and we could probably get something small back for him. Just not ‘prime assets’.

I didn't say prime assets. I said 'for picks' and capspace. That's where 'this discussion started.' Someone else responding to me said 'prime assets.'

just clarifying. Don't like getting generalized with things i didn't say.

 

[Vector]

Drance and Dhaliwal on the Canucks off-season priorities and plans.

-Wednesday morning Allvin, Rutherford, and Tocchet held a high-level meeting to discuss the off-season
-amateur scouts are meeting this week
-pro scout meetings begin next week
-off-season goals:

• dynamic scoring punch at the top of the lineup
• reconstruct the defence corps
• maintain some of the size advantage

-are aware they need to add more skill and creativity to the forward group
-will be aggressive in adding a top-6 forward who can contribute to generating shots and goals
-will move aggressively in free agency to replace those who leave
-want Bains, Podkolzin, and others in the AHL to step into full-time roles


Hronek:
-all indications is that Hronek's preference is to stay and meet somewhere in the middle
-little progress in talks between Allan Walsh and Canucks' management; haven't been negotiations in months
-if the Canucks thought he was worth 8m, they would have already signed him
-no formal offers and counter-offers were exchanged
-no urgency from either side

Lindholm:
-Canucks will at least check in with Lindholm's agent to gauge whether they can keep him
-7-8m is too much for the team
-Lindholm and Joshua are the team's top priorities

Joshua:
-mention that his cap hit could be pushed north of 4m
-lots of term will help bring the cap hit down (uses Nick Paul and Pierre Engvall as examples)
-management is aware that they may have to consider "getting a bit uncomfortalbe" with term to keep the cap hits low

Zadorov:
-internal understanding that he may have priced himself out
-Milstein is looking for big term
-Canucks know what it will take to get a deal done here
-cap hit that starts with 5m and long term

Myers:
-Canucks and Myers both want to be back
-not going to sign for 2m
-multiyear deal just over 3m could be appealing to the Canucks
-belived if he gets to free agency could get over 4m with term
-internal feeling that it's important to keep at least one of their big blueliners

Blueger:
-will push hard to re-sign
-sense they need to keep him because will likely lose Lindholm

Cole:
-Cole cut his ankle in game two, required stitches, and needed a lot of extra prep to play each game afterwards; this impacted his mobility
-lots of respect
-not convinced he's a priority

Colliton:
-there's a disagreement between the Canucks Colliton and both sides have been exploring other opportunities
-last week it was reported that both sides were open to continuing the relationship but something has changed behind the scenes
-resolution, one way or another, is coming shortly

Silovs & DeSmith:
-with Silovs post-season play, Canucks will not be bringing back DeSmith
-Silovs will likely be the back-up next season

Karlsson:
-has drawn interest from top teams in Sweden (he's an RFA)
-his preference is to remain in North America
-is a favourite of Tocchet

LTIR:
-operating in LTIR is something management doesn't like doing
-not willing to part with draft picks or future assets to get rid of the contract
-if the Canucks do trade picks and prospects it will be for roster players

 

[arttk]

Ehh it’s moderately significant but as someone who doesn’t rate pick value that high … meh.

This discussion started with the claim that Garland would return ‘prime assets’ which is nonsense.



And I’m acknowledging that his value has increased and we could probably get something small back for him. Just not ‘prime assets’.

Prime 2nd round pick, the best 2nd round of all the 2nds.

 

[Wisp]

The "Hronek for 8 million" things is definitely just Walsh being a dipshit of an agent. 8 mill is not going to fly no matter how much he whispers to Frank Seravalli. 7 isn't going to fly either.

 

[God]

For what it's worth, I don't want to trade Garland (never really have) but I think teams like San Jose/Montreal/Chicago would give up a 2nd and a B level prospect for him in an instant. And that's more than a 3rd but not really prime assets, and doesn't help this team in any fashion aside from opening up cap space to get someone like Guentzel or Reinhart.

Him and Joshua are essentially the perfect wing pair and if Petey goes through another slump (or doesn't ever get out of it), I'd hope that both of them can help get him out. Everyone left in the playoffs is at least 3 lines deep except for Edmonton.

 

[Peen]

The "Hronek for 8 million" things is definitely just Walsh being a dipshit of an agent. 8 mill is not going to fly no matter how much he whispers to Frank Seravalli. 7 isn't going to fly either.

Honestly thought it was pretty funny that Dhaliwal was calling out Seravalli & Walsh today. Happened on the crossover with Drance & Dodd

He then reiterated that not a single person in the league that he’s talked to thinks he’s worth 8 million.

I genuinely haven’t thought about any roster construction stuff for like the last two months… but the more I think ab it, I do think they should find a compromise with Hronek. Obviously not interested in 8x8, but if there’s some sort of compromise 7.25x7… just do it. You know the pairing with QH works, and it reduces the summer need for a top six fw/ top four d down to one of each which sounds a lot more manageable. I’d feel pretty confident that if Guentzel, Tanev/Demelo are available on July 1 that they’d be able to get those guys over the line.

 

[overboard]

Front office is gonna have to play some 5-D chess to sort this complicated mess out. Many moving parts and interconnected variables. Gives a guy a headache just thinking about it.

I for one won't be shocked if EP40 is traded to balance out some of our roster/cap issues.

I'm not saying that I expect this - and nor am I saying I want it to happen either.

I'm just saying I won't be surprised if they do move him.

If management is truly going to be "ruthless", they'll look at *everything*.

Including offers for Petey.

Even before what happened in the playoffs, I'm just not at all convinced EP is a Trader Jim kind of player.

 

[DFAC]

Front office is gonna have to play some 5-D chess to sort this complicated mess out. Many moving parts and interconnected variables. Gives a guy a headache just thinking about it.

I for one won't be shocked if EP40 is traded to balance out some of our roster/cap issues.

I'm not saying that I expect this - and nor am I saying I want it to happen either.

I'm just saying I won't be surprised if they do move him.

If management is truly going to be "ruthless", they'll look at *everything*.

Including offers for Petey.

Even before what happened in the playoffs, I'm just not at all convinced EP is a Trader Jim kind of player.

I really want to know what the Carolina offer was for Petey

 

[alternate]

Zero chance Petey gets moved. Maybe not zero, but about the same odds as the franchise relocating to Arizona.

 

[thecupismine]

Drance and Dhaliwal on the Canucks off-season priorities and plans.

-Wednesday morning Allvin, Rutherford, and Tocchet held a high-level meeting to discuss the off-season
-amateur scouts are meeting this week
-pro scout meetings begin next week
-off-season goals:

• dynamic scoring punch at the top of the lineup
• reconstruct the defence corps
• maintain some of the size advantage

-are aware they need to add more skill and creativity to the forward group
-will be aggressive in adding a top-6 forward who can contribute to generating shots and goals
-will move aggressively in free agency to replace those who leave
-want Bains, Podkolzin, and others in the AHL to step into full-time roles


Hronek:
-all indications is that Hronek's preference is to stay and meet somewhere in the middle
-little progress in talks between Allan Walsh and Canucks' management; haven't been negotiations in months
-if the Canucks thought he was worth 8m, they would have already signed him
-no formal offers and counter-offers were exchanged
-no urgency from either side

Lindholm:
-Canucks will at least check in with Lindholm's agent to gauge whether they can keep him
-7-8m is too much for the team
-Lindholm and Joshua are the team's top priorities

Joshua:
-mention that his cap hit could be pushed north of 4m
-lots of term will help bring the cap hit down (uses Nick Paul and Pierre Engvall as examples)
-management is aware that they may have to consider "getting a bit uncomfortalbe" with term to keep the cap hits low

Zadorov:
-internal understanding that he may have priced himself out
-Milstein is looking for big term
-Canucks know what it will take to get a deal done here
-cap hit that starts with 5m and long term

Myers:
-Canucks and Myers both want to be back
-not going to sign for 2m
-multiyear deal just over 3m could be appealing to the Canucks
-belived if he gets to free agency could get over 4m with term
-internal feeling that it's important to keep at least one of their big blueliners

Blueger:
-will push hard to re-sign
-sense they need to keep him because will likely lose Lindholm

Cole:
-Cole cut his ankle in game two, required stitches, and needed a lot of extra prep to play each game afterwards; this impacted his mobility
-lots of respect
-not convinced he's a priority

Colliton:
-there's a disagreement between the Canucks Colliton and both sides have been exploring other opportunities
-last week it was reported that both sides were open to continuing the relationship but something has changed behind the scenes
-resolution, one way or another, is coming shortly

Silovs & DeSmith:
-with Silovs post-season play, Canucks will not be bringing back DeSmith
-Silovs will likely be the back-up next season

Karlsson:
-has drawn interest from top teams in Sweden (he's an RFA)
-his preference is to remain in North America
-is a favourite of Tocchet

LTIR:
-operating in LTIR is something management doesn't like doing
-not willing to part with draft picks or future assets to get rid of the contract
-if the Canucks do trade picks and prospects it will be for roster players

What was more interesting to me is what wasn't said about the blueline - almost no mention of a need for better puck movers, instead placing the onus on the forward group.

Not sure I fully agree here, as a lot of the dumping + changing instead of dumping & chasing was a result of not being able to ring the puck back to the dmen to hold while a change was occuring.

Agreed on wanting to maintain the identity of being a big, physical team, but they have to improve their ability to transition from d to forward if they want to take that next step. There's no Connor McDavid here to compensate and just take the puck end to end on their own.

Even Vegas, who had those big dmen Tocchet likes, had Theodore and Pietrangelo on separate pairings to make sure the puck still moved up the ice smoothly. Hronek is going to need to carry his own pairing if we're going to run back a similar group.

Like what they're saying re: depth pieces stepping up. Contenders can't overpay 4th liners - you cycle those guys out so you have cap space for your top 9 forwards. In the same vein, I wouldn't be surprised if Juulsen starts the season as the #6 dman and they sign someone in free agency to be 7/8 so they afford one of Myers/Zadorov, in addition to Joshua and a top 6 forward.

 

[Wry n Ginger]

Let’s wait till Sept

Ok...for what?

Let's wait until Aug 24th...or Feb 8th...or?

 

[Wisp]

Front office is gonna have to play some 5-D chess to sort this complicated mess out. Many moving parts and interconnected variables. Gives a guy a headache just thinking about it.

I for one won't be shocked if EP40 is traded to balance out some of our roster/cap issues.

I'm not saying that I expect this - and nor am I saying I want it to happen either.

I'm just saying I won't be surprised if they do move him.

If management is truly going to be "ruthless", they'll look at *everything*.

Including offers for Petey.

Even before what happened in the playoffs, I'm just not at all convinced EP is a Trader Jim kind of player.

you're projecting.

Satiar Shar on Pettersson, via Canucks Talk yesterday

"I don't think organizationally they've lost any faith in the player. They view it as a learning experience and a player they still believe in."

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

They will be pulling another "Elmer" if they "run out of time" and don't resign Lindholm and Zadorov.

Just give them term with a lower cap hit and a contract that can be bought out in the last 2 years.

 

[Wisp]

They will be pulling another "Elmer" if they "run out of time" and don't resign Lindholm and Zadorov.

Just give them term with a lower cap hit and a contract that can be bought out in the last 2 years.

very easy to say, they have no incentive to sign that.

this management group is nothing like benning. they're not going to be held hostage and stuck holding the bag. But they might not re-sign your favourites either.

 

[mathonwy]

We know he had negative value after a 46-point season. What’s ridiculous is thinking there has been some sort of titanic change after a 47-point season.

All due respect but 46-point Garland was part of a Bruce Boudreau led joke of 83pt team featuring bozo the clown, -20 Boeser, -24 OEL and no Blueger.

This season, the entire team has experienced a titanic shift starting with a new Jack Adam’s winning coach.

And with this titanic shift in standings is a completely different outlook by nhl teams on Canuck players in general.

This whole season, the Canucks have been actively competing for the prez trophy and teams have been playing us hard every night.

I’ve also heard more than a few casuals comment how impressed they are with Garlands ability to go into a scrum with much bigger guys and emerge with the puck consistently. Anecdotal for sure. But it’s undeniable that he STILL had his legs in game 7 when he scored off that turn over. Nobody else on our team could have done that.

I think yer way off base on Garland.