Speculation: Canucks Elias Pettersson on the move? Nucks GM speaks out

[elmaco]

Trade JT not Elias

Miller sat out and put himself before the team to try to force the the JT /Petterson issue


That says enough ship him out he can yell like a narcissist some where else

He's also turning 32 in a few months, whereas EP is just starting his prime.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

With a team that went from winning the division to likely missing the playoffs, nothing is certain

Plenty of teams underachieve. If you have 4 all star caliber players signed long term at 1C, 2C, 1D, and GK, there are dozens of things you would try before you move one of those guys — especially at a loss.

I’m 99.9 percent confident demko and Hughes will both be Canucks next year. I’d give it a 50/50 chance that both Miller and EP will be.

The fact that you’re outwardly denying the rumors but yet you refuse to put a % on them both returning suggests you’re already hedging your bets because deep down, you know there’s a good chance that where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

 

[Three On Zero]

Plenty of teams underachieve. If you have 4 all star caliber players signed long term at 1C, 2C, 1D, and GK, there are dozens of things you would try before you move one of those guys — especially at a loss.

I’m 99.9 percent confident demko and Hughes will both be Canucks next year. I’d give it a 50/50 chance that both Miller and EP will be.

The fact that you’re outwardly denying the rumors but yet you refuse to put a % on them both returning suggests you’re already hedging your bets because deep down, you know there’s a good chance that where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

It’s the same management group that traded Horvat and shocked people. Im not denying anything, I just want some actual facts instead of trying to decipher some here-say and reading between the lines to make assumptions

 

[Viking10]

If Canucks want a longer chance to be competitive they trade JT, if they move EP, why bother signing him last march when he was in a funk…this kind of falls on the GM but he hasn’t been called out for it.

Fix the team or as Penguin fans mentioned…good luck with trader Jim running the team!

Last year was a prime example of them paying a premium at the TDL with a team that was trending to go back to playoffs on multiple Canuck player career years and minimal injuries…

This is Not the year to make a shit…play the year out and trade the player that is the issue inside the dressing room.

Move on & hope for the best, in managaement I do Not trust…

 

[ryan callahan]

Miller and Pettersson being polar opposites as players and as humans and their inability to adapt to each other shows a lack of maturity on both sides. Tocchet needs to have a talk with both. Miller should chill the **** out and Pettersson should implement some of Garland's **** you in your face attitude/vibes even though he's not the biggest. If both can meet in the middle it could be an incredible duo. Until then the team will be a toxic cesspool.

 

[Jumptheshark]

IS EP actually injured or they just holding him out of the line up?

 

[brock hughes007]

Miller and Pettersson being polar opposites as players and as humans and their inability to adapt to each other shows a lack of maturity on both sides. Tocchet needs to have a talk with both. Miller should chill the **** out and Pettersson should implement some of Garland's **** you in your face attitude/vibes even though he's not the biggest. If both can meet in the middle it could be an incredible duo. Until then the team will be a toxic cesspool.

Bottom line is they both wear A,s on their jerseys..Supposedly leaders on this team.
If they can't show that they can't get along.
remove those A,s

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I’m taking the word of the Canucks beat reporters who have sources within the team:

Naturally, the Canucks’ announcement left room for plenty of speculation, which is why it was great to see that The Province’s Patrick Johnston was quickly able to provide some answers. Here’s what Johnston reported in a post on the social media platform BlueSky:


Shortly thereafter, Rick Dhaliwal of Donnie and Dhali — The Team reported the same, saying that Miller’s absence is “about a player who needs a re-set. Needs time and space.”

Canucks forward JT Miller takes indefinite leave for personal reasons

UPDATE 10:53 AM: According to Postmedia's Patrick Johnston, Miller's l...

canucksarmy.com

None of those quotes preclude personal issues. (Edit: like a divorce or distracting family illness.)

 

[LemonSauceD]

Miller's been dominant in the playoffs. EP looks like his numbers were pulled from a Leafs statbook. Anyone with a brain knows which one is a better winner

Really? Since when is 12 goals in 91 playoffs games dominant

 

[Peter Griffin]

Really? Since when is 12 goals in 91 playoffs games dominant

He “looks” more dominant.

Pettersson killed that guys dog or something I swear.

 

[Unspecified]

True but he’s been pretty bad this year .

I mean so is Pettersson

 

[notsocommonsense]

IS EP actually injured or they just holding him out of the line up?

Injured. He left their last game before the Xmas break in the 2nd period

 

[Jumptheshark]

Injured. He left their last game before the Xmas break in the 2nd period

Thank you. Just needed a clarification on what was going on

 

[Kegs]

Really? Since when is 12 goals in 91 playoffs games dominant

His last two playoff runs have been really good though.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Yup, you can clearly see some posters who focus directly at belittling anything they see as their primary focus. I agree, Canucks might be after a different return but that offer is not trash or some meh offer.

Words of choice is key. Way too many posters quick to use words like Trash, Ridiculous, Horrible, etc. It's a culture of making fun of anything you can find for some posters and that part is the real trash on these boards.

No doubt in my mind that Dach, Newhook, and Matheson keep the Canucks competitive and then you see some posters completely ignore that there is two 1st rounders on top. 1st rounders that are not back of the bus too. Very strange

you’ve made 10 posts saying you’re not going to respond and then writing 3 paragraphs. it should never be that hard to log off

 

[Habs Halifax]

Eh, Dach reaches misfit status if he gets traded. 3rd OA pick who would have been on his 3rd team since the 2019 draft

He's taking long to reach his prime for sure but there is still lots of potential in that big frame. Misfit is not the right word of choice and it's 3 quality NHL players with two 1sts on top. 1st rounders that is very far from back of the bus as well. It's a package offer for sure and the Canucks can say no but fans pretending that offer is crap are reaching to belittle.

 

[The411]

So what would your offer from San Jose be then?

Nothing. The Sharks want nothing to do with Pettersson.

 

[Caboose]

People Misunderstand the issue with Pettersson. There is no Miller VS Petterson that is causing an irreparable situation.

This is a Canucks Brass vs Petterson issue. It started very early preseason and during the previous season where Tocchet criticized Peteys practice habits and commitment to improving off the ice.

Throughout this year I think they realized how fragile Petey was mentally and completely stepped away from criticizing him. Tocchet has been honest and fair criticizing every player on the roster by name at some point this year except Petey and continuously stops himself in post games when it seems blatantly obvious he wants to say something.

My take from Allvins statement is that their various approaches the Canucks have taken with Petterson to take his off ice improvement more seriously have failed and this is just another tactic to pressure him to get with the program.




Personally I find this really sad because one thing I loved about Petey was his seeming desperation to win at all costs. His unwillingness to take a team friendly discount to make this more of a reality and now this continued criticism of his off ice commitments has tainted my views. When paired with his disappearance in last years playoffs when the stars aligned for the Canucks leaves me apathetic at best to this "superstar".

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Pretty sure every team will have players that don’t get along. They can almost always hide it and keep it behind closed doors though. It’s concerning that things have gotten this bad publicly as this is probably like an iceberg; for everything we see and hear there is a lot more under the surface

 

[Jerzey Devil]

There’s only one reason I can think of why a professional athlete would refuse to play because of a teammate.

I just can’t believe Miller is sitting because he just does t like Petterson. They’re making too much money to be acting like middle schoolers. Either Petterson did something very bad to Miller or Miller’s issues have nothing to do with Petterson.

 

[freester]

Did folks discuss Friedmann’s proposal of Cozens + Byram? What was the consensus?

I thought it made a lot of sense but was away from the forum when it was proposed so I didn’t see anything about it on here.

Sabres aren’t trading their top 3 defenseman.

 

[BlueSeal]

Why not just lock EP and Miller in a room so they can deal with whatever problem they got and they don't come out til they resolve it? The team is more important than this buffoonery.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Nothing. The Sharks want nothing to do with Pettersson.

You weren’t being asked but thanks for weirdly chiming in.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Is there any deal that could be based around futures?

JT Compher (cap)
Danielson
Augustine
2026 1st

I would do this for EP but I doubt it's acceptable for Vancouver? Not sure.

 

[freester]

Cozens and Byram is the best one I have seen so far. Byram is a legit top 4 and could even reach top 2 potential.

Something Vancouver desperately needs.

Buffalo is not giving up Byrum. It’s looking like a good trade for our embattled GM.

Cozens, Samuelson and a top prospect like Isaac Rosen who’s ready for the NHL. Salary in and out is a factor for Buffalo.