Post-Game Talk: Canucks defeat Senators | 4-3 (DeBrusk(2), Blueger, & Sherwood) | CHIEF KIEF

[Billy Kvcmu]

I don’t think it’s that outlandish.

His contract extension absolutely sucks. I wouldn’t give a thing to take on a $10 million commitment for a bottom-6 guy who sucks defensively and has been mostly terrible for the last 4 years.

Recency bias

Hodlander is not passing through the waiver

 

[krutovsdonut]

He is not a complimentary player whatsoever. At this time he is playing for a tire fire of of an organization. At this time he isn't a good captain but Sidney couldn't captain that team. Brady may yet become a good captain or he may not but he probably needs to get out of Ottawa.

yep. he actually rallied that shit show of a team and they almost tied the game.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Gutsy win. Missing 4 of our top 5 players in Hughes, Miller, Demko and Boeser. Joshua looks to be rounding back into form. Sherwood is a beauty!
Can’t wait to start getting some of the injured back. Should be soon. Just have to keep battling until then.

 

[ziploc]

What happened with Hughes?

Gooned it up, as per usual.

 

[MS]

Recency bias

Hodlander is not passing through the waiver

He’s had 1 good year in the last 4, and it was basically a SH% bender.

Signed for $1.5 million of course he’d have value. At $3 million with term for a depth guy playing this badly, good luck.

 

[racerjoe]

I'm just guessing that injury rule on boarding was for when a guy leaves the game with a concussion. Not to get a minor cut that sends him to the back for a minute and he is back to finish the power play. I said this earlier but that rule needs to be looked at. Injury is just too vague. Don't blame the refs for that one because it's technically the rules.

They can get f***ed for the Stützle-Hoglander call though.

I disagree. The rule is on major penalties only, and no way should that be a five min penalty to begin with.

Now on top of that, if they look at change of directions on head shots they should on these too. I know this doesn’t have to do with the current rules, but another pet peeve of mine.

 

[Flik]

Tkachuk seems to be playing like a guy who feels very hopeless. He’s seen the exact same scenario being played out now for the last 5 years where his team implodes in November/December which has them playing catch up for the rest of the year and then eventually coming up short which is also another psychological obstacle.

He probably feels the brunt of all the shortcomings from all the heightened expectations imposed onto him as the captain and he’s releasing all of that built up pressure out on the ice. He doesn’t seem like the typical “goon” type where he’s just trying to injure guys for f***s, he genuinely does seem like a guy who’s just trying to get his team going and wants to instill a no nonsense identity. But his antics obviously do get the better of him and more often than not he’s just embarassing himself and ends up hurting the team with these bad penalties and that takes himself out the game.

Agreed, he's f***ing frustrated as hell and who can blame him?


I still think he'd look absolutely phenomenal in a Canucks jersey and would be the ideal Petey line-mate. Circus act is fine too sometimes, we've a strong enough dressing room that I think the antics would end up being something more akin to how Miller is.

Bring Brady home Allvin~

(And a couple of top 4D too, easy peasy!)

 

[orcatown]

Recency bias

Hodlander is not passing through the waiver

Whose taking on the contract at his price and prefromance. And if he is picked up opens up some precious cap space needed to acquire the d-man we need.

Hoglander's contract looks like an anchor moving ahead.

 

[FuzzyTitus]

With Jiricek not doing much, and Hogland having enough history for someone to take a risk on, I wonder if there's a swap to be made there.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Whose taking on the contract at his price and prefromance. And if he is picked up opens up some precious cap space needed to acquire the d-man we need.

Hoglander's contract looks like an anchor moving ahead.

Honestly this whole debate is asinine because they just signed the contract. They obviously have a different valuation of the player than most posters on here. They are not waiving Hoglander this is not Jim Benning running this team anymore.

 

[quat]

What D-man could Hoglander legitimately fetch 1-for-1?

Myers

Myers dependable as ever.

Myers depends

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Coaching staff needs to wake the f*** up. Stop putting myers and juulsen out in the last moments. Haven't we learned from the playoffs?

Ok, Myers played ok for the 2nd and then started steadily declining again as the game went on. You put him out in a vital moment at the end, I get it. But then he makes the dumbest possible play with tons of time and no pressure....DON'T PUT HIM OUT THERE AGAIN. And definitely don't put Juulsen out there with him...

Also, Hronek was an absolute stud this game and he's not out there at the end?

This coaching staff just can't help themselves, they put Myers out mindlessly and just ignore when he makes dumb decisions. At least be able to read who is playing well in the game and lean on them...

agree, Myers can’t be out there at the end of the game. Put the third pairing on with Brannstrom instead

 

[bandwagonesque]

He’s had 1 good year in the last 4, and it was basically a SH% bender.

Signed for $1.5 million of course he’d have value. At $3 million with term for a depth guy playing this badly, good luck.

Throughout his "SH% bender" he was scoring on wide-open looks and odd-man attacks on broken plays because he was playing a fantastic short passing game, forechecking, and working like a dog. Teams remember that and I think he still has some value even with the extension.

 

[Bobby9]

HOG currently couldn’t fetch us a difference maker dman. We would and should attach an asset or pick to him to get one tho.

HOG
2 x 2nds

Or

HOG
Ratu.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Agreed, he's f***ing frustrated as hell and who can blame him?


I still think he'd look absolutely phenomenal in a Canucks jersey and would be the ideal Petey line-mate. Circus act is fine too sometimes, we've a strong enough dressing room that I think the antics would end up being something more akin to how Miller is.

Bring Brady home Allvin~

(And a couple of top 4D too, easy peasy!)

what would you offer for Tkachuk?

Tkachuk seems to be playing like a guy who feels very hopeless. He’s seen the exact same scenario being played out now for the last 5 years where his team implodes in November/December which has them playing catch up for the rest of the year and then eventually coming up short which is also another psychological obstacle.

He probably feels the brunt of all the shortcomings from all the heightened expectations imposed onto him as the captain and he’s releasing all of that built up pressure out on the ice. He doesn’t seem like the typical “goon” type where he’s just trying to injure guys for f***s, he genuinely does seem like a guy who’s just trying to get his team going and wants to instill a no nonsense identity. But his antics obviously do get the better of him and more often than not he’s just embarassing himself and ends up hurting the team with these bad penalties and that takes himself out the game.

You're spot on. I honestly feel the Sens need a huge core shakeup.

 

[arttk]

what would you offer for Tkachuk?

nobody because we don’t have the assets without killing ourselves

 

[Ernie]

Whose taking on the contract at his price and prefromance. And if he is picked up opens up some precious cap space needed to acquire the d-man we need.

Hoglander's contract looks like an anchor moving ahead.

Plenty of teams will value this player. Just because he's not playing well at the moment doesn't mean that he isn't a net positive player.

He's right there with Garland for best on the team in individual scoring chances at 5v5. He's a talented player with a high motor who is prone to defensive lapses and seems to end up in Tocchet's doghouse regularly but has made big strides in the past year. It's unfortunate that he's not playing well after a strong start to the season where he was earning top six minutes much like the end of last season.

 

[Quinning]

Honestly the Sens scoring two late goals to make it a 1-goal game but not tying it is so on brand for Travis Green that it's hilarious.

That's a good team over there.

 

[Quinning]

Man, Sherwood is quite the story. Undrafted, 29 years old and finally getting a shot as a top six forward. And he's not only fitting in, he's driving that line right now.

 

[arttk]

yep. he actually rallied that shit show of a team and they almost tied the game.

The refs did that

 

[Ernie]

It's funny to reminisce about Travis Green but even funnier is to watch his post game comments tonight and realize he's completely out of answer 20 games into the season:

Travis Green Postgame Media vs VAN | Ottawa Senators

Travis Green speaks to the media following the Senators game against the Canucks

www.nhl.com

How this guy got another job as head coach is beyond me.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

green and gaudette, dream team