Post-Game Talk: Canucks 1, Blues 0 - PGT starts at post #593

[MS]

Everyone on this site has a better chance winning the lottery than the Canucks winning the cup

If you'd rather draft 3 or 4 spots higher than watch your team play playoff games than I quite frankly feel sorry for you and sorry for your take on life.

If we were the 29th placed team in the league ... whatever, for the last 10 games. But battling for a playoff spot? Any fan who wants to tank is a ****ing loser.

 

[Zombotron]

Lu and Booth to St. Louis for Halak and Chris Stewart.

St. Louis gets their goalie upgrade and replaces one struggling forward with another, Vancouver clears a bit of cap space and gets an inconsistent player who could be dynamite after a Torts ass-kicking.

I know a Luongo-to-St. Louis trade has been bandied about here before.

 

[ionicbluebird]

I'm a Canucks fan and yes, I think they should tank. I admire their enthusiasm tonight but in the best interests of the future of this team, they should tank unfortunately. They won't though.. because they are all professionals with pride.

As a fan of the franchise though, I'd be much happier with a great draft pick than likely one round of playoffs... or worse yet, we just barely miss the playoffs and end up with a crappy pick, and that's the most likely scenario.

 

[canuck4life16]

no team would tank if they have a chance to make playoff and go on a cinderella run to win the cup

Cup-->high draft pick

 

[MS]

I'm a Canucks fan and yes, I think they should tank. I admire their enthusiasm tonight but in the best interests of the future of this team, they should tank unfortunately. They won't though.. because they are all professionals with pride.

As a fan of the franchise though, I'd be much happier with a great draft pick than likely one round of playoffs... or worse yet, we just barely miss the playoffs and end up with a crappy pick, and that's the most likely scenario.

The difference between the #12 and #16 pick is negligible. Like a 3% higher chance of drafting an impact player.

If we could somehow have a strong chance of getting to the #1 overall pick this viewpoint might have some credibility. But we don't.

What you're saying is that you'd rather throw the whole season into the tank for essentially nothing. Which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

How did Henrik look tonight? Was he able to go into traffic and corners without grimacing every time he got hit? I missed the game and our season is pretty much dependant on his health.

Yeah, he was good. Really good in the faceoff circle, too.

 

[canuck4life16]

Yeah, he was good. Really good in the faceoff circle, too.

how about Daniel?

 

[Jimson Hogarth*]

Everyone on this site has a better chance winning the lottery than the Canucks winning the cup

A few days before the trade deadline a couple years ago, people were saying that about LA.

Tanking is for losers. This organization should not mimic in any way the oilers organization of the past 10 years.

 

[arttk]

Half of me wants to see the Nucks win the rest of the game and go into the playoffs.

Half of me want the team to continue to tank since that doesn't happen that often and if we can get a blue chipper this season, that would make the core transition smoother.

 

[canuck4life16]

The difference between the #12 and #16 pick is negligible. Like a 3% higher chance of drafting an impact player.

If we could somehow have a strong chance of getting to the #1 overall pick this viewpoint might have some credibility. But we don't.

What you're saying is that you'd rather throw the whole season into the tank for essentially nothing. Which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

yeah I don't think any team be that crazy to throw away the season for a high draft pick, it does not always work. plus 2014 draft is not that great. If we wanted to tank should have done it during 07/08 season

 

[LiveeviL]

Anyone thinking this team is good enough probably has only been following the Canucks since bout 2000/2001.

Team can beat St. Louis because the team scores about as well as Vancouver.

All Cali teams own the Canucks more than white on rice.

If Gillis decides to be buyers at the TDL he's a moron and completely delusional.

Yes you need to have followed the team since 1986/87 to evaluate this year's Canucks correctly.

 

[ShouldveDraftedFiala]

Mod request. If you aren't going to create a separate thread for the post game, can you edit the title to include what post it begins at?

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

how about Daniel?

Better than he was before the break, but not outstanding.

 

[canuck4life16]

Yes you need to have followed the team since 1986/87 to evaluate this year's Canucks correctly.

Don't feed the haters they are not real fans.....any team can beat anyone in the playoff it been done before see calgary and Oilers

 

[Drop the Sopel]

The difference between the #12 and #16 pick is negligible. Like a 3% higher chance of drafting an impact player.

If we could somehow have a strong chance of getting to the #1 overall pick this viewpoint might have some credibility. But we don't.

What you're saying is that you'd rather throw the whole season into the tank for essentially nothing. Which is utterly incomprehensible to me.

The Canucks have a decent shot at 7th overall. Could be a major difference between 7 and 15...

I don't think the odds of them making the playoffs are very good at all. The worst team in 2014 is going to finish the year 15-5 or thereabouts? I don't see it, even with the soft schedule.

 

[Vankiller Whale]

The Canucks have a decent shot at 7th overall. Could be a major difference between 7 and 15...

I don't think the odds of them making the playoffs are very good at all. The worst team in 2014 is going to finish the year 15-5 or thereabouts? I don't see it, even with the soft schedule.

According to this http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Vancouver.html if we go 12-7-2 we have a 50% shot at the playoffs.

Grain of salt obviously, but it's far from an impossibilty.

 

[mrmyheadhurts]

Nice win and the Canucks deserved it, they were the better team.

 

[Drop the Sopel]

According to this http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Vancouver.html if we go 12-7-2 we have a 50% shot at the playoffs.

Grain of salt obviously, but it's far from an impossibilty.

Not impossible, just improbable.

If the Canucks had lost their 1st 2 games coming out of the Olympic break, you bet your ass I would cheer against them the rest of the way - and I don't know a bigger fan than myself...

I have seen enough 9th place finishes in my time.

Never mind how Kesler factors into all of this. Both his injury status, as well as trade status.

 

[MS]

The Canucks have a decent shot at 7th overall. Could be a major difference between 7 and 15...

I don't think the odds of them making the playoffs are very good at all. The worst team in 2014 is going to finish the year 15-5 or thereabouts? I don't see it, even with the soft schedule.

See the post below yours. 12-7-2 is reasonable.

And attempting to tank doesn't guarantee tanking. Look at Calgary last year - trade Iginla and Bouwmeester, and start winning games. The idea that you'll get magical fairy losing dust by trading players doesn't really work. We're just as likely to finish 7th by trying to win as by trying to lose.

And again, the payoff isn't worth it. And cheering to lose is disgusting.

 

[Wilch]

While I want the Canucks to draft high, if they're not getting a pick inside the 7 range, I'd rather they fight for a playoff spot.

I can see one of the top 5 talents falling to as far as 7th overall due to Burke going off the board. Anything less than that, we're going to take someone of similar calibre between 8-15. If the Canucks are going to tank, then tank all the way. If not, battle hard and get into the playoffs.

Would still prefer to see Kesler and Edler traded for young roster players/prospects/picks regardless. Would be what San Jose did, but on a much larger scale.

 

[Vankiller Whale]

Not impossible, just improbable.

If the Canucks had lost their 1st 2 games coming out of the Olympic break, you bet your ass I would cheer against them the rest of the way - and I don't know a bigger fan than myself...

I have seen enough 9th place finishes in my time.

Never mind how Kesler factors into all of this. Both his injury status, as well as trade status.

I'm not afraid of rebuilding but if this team can reignite a spark then I wouldn't want to smother it prematurely. We still have some time until the trade deadline. Let's see how it goes before we start cheering for a tank.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Where the Nucks are I'd rather they fight for a playoff spot, but they are no where near a cup contender.

My ultimate fear is they win all these games before the trade deadline then trade more picks for rentals...

 

[Drop the Sopel]

See the post below yours. 12-7-2 is reasonable.

And attempting to tank doesn't guarantee tanking. Look at Calgary last year - trade Iginla and Bouwmeester, and start winning games. The idea that you'll get magical fairy losing dust by trading players doesn't really work. We're just as likely to finish 7th by trying to win as by trying to lose.

And again, the payoff isn't worth it. And cheering to lose is disgusting.

You're more likely to win with good players and more likely to lose with less good players. Don't agree with the bolded...

If there were 10 games left and the Canucks had to go 10-0 to make the playoffs you're telling me you would be on the edge of your seat praying for a victory every night? Can't say I would be there along with you.

There could be a massive difference between drafting 6-7th overall and 16-17th overall.

 

[Wilch]

You're more likely to win with good players and more likely to lose with less good players. Don't agree with the bolded...

If there were 10 games left and the Canucks had to go 10-0 to make the playoffs you're telling me you would be on the edge of your seat praying for a victory every night? Can't say I would be there along with you.

There could be a massive difference between drafting 6-7th overall and 16-17th overall.

With the way the team has been playing for this entire season, I'm led to believe if the Canucks acquired young roster players, the team's fate might actually change for the better.

A lot of the core guys just seem exhausted and have been playing like **** due to second guessing themselves and just being mentally fatigued in general.

Trading Kesler and Edler will either put this team into the abyss or it might re-ignite the team like it did with Calgary.

 

[Drop the Sopel]

I'm not afraid of rebuilding but if this team can reignite a spark then I wouldn't want to smother it prematurely. We still have some time until the trade deadline. Let's see how it goes before we start cheering for a tank.

I'm not cheering for a tank, just find myself really indifferent to the results at this point. I don't see this team making the playoffs - too many injuries to the top players, too many passengers like Burrows/Booth and too much poor play in the last couple months.

Just not really emotionally invested in the outcomes at the moment. If they string a couple more wins together that probably changes.