GDT: Canes v Toothy Fish

[Joe McGrath]

Jim Joyce, who was always one of the better umpires and absolutely owned that he got it wrong in the post-game. One of the few times I remember seeing an ump actually address the media, to be honest.

This was him the very next day:

Ah Jim Joyce. He was a really good umpire.

 

[chaz4hockey]

TOI leaders last night:
Burns 21:01
Jarvis 21:00
Necas 20:23
Turbo 18:58
Skjei 18:45

Glad to see Burns drop off a bit from the 26 min the other night. We supposedly have D depth (well Ok, Orlov and TDA have been manure).....don't play him as much.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Glad to see Burns drop off a bit from the 26 min the other night. We supposedly have D depth (well Ok, Orlov and TDA have been manure).....don't play him as much.

Orlov was the 3rd highest TOI defender last night

Granted, orlov caught and surpassed Slavin by 4 seconds after we scored the 4th goal. Orlov played every other shift after the 5th goal.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Orlov was the 3rd highest TOI defender last night

Granted, orlov caught and surpassed Slavin by 4 seconds after we scored the 4th goal. Orlov played every other shift after the 5th goal.

The ridiculous amount of special teams is a big factor here. With Slavin and Skjei, there is no need for Orlov, a LHD to PK. When DeAngelo is in the line-up, he's not going to PK either, so by default it's Burns and Pesce.

So on the season, Burns is averaging 8-9min / game on special teams. With Chatfield in the line-up, I can see Burns' PK time dropping.

Last season, Burns averaged 18:07 ES TOI/GP. So far this season, he's averaging 14:42.

 

[Borsig]

Maybe next time tda can go for the numbers on the ref. Like I said last year. Accidental puck to the face or concussion from impact would do a few of these refs good.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Orlov was the 3rd highest TOI defender last night

Granted, orlov caught and surpassed Slavin by 4 seconds after we scored the 4th goal. Orlov played every other shift after the 5th goal.

yup, I do look at box scores.

My point was that Burns did not play as much and for jest threw in a flippant comment on Orlov/TDA

btw: as season progresses players will adapt and refs should too in reducing the number of penalties called. Hopefully, that will reduce our ST playing times

 

[WreckingCrew]

Unfortunately, that one was Slavin going in deep for a shot and Burns not dropping back and no forward covering high. So far this season, Slavin appears to be a lot more aggressively offensively than he was last year and the year before. Maybe it's a case of he was playing it safe as he got used to TDA and Burns the last two seasons, but now that he has some familiarity with Burns, he's being more aggressive. They'll figure it out over time.

I agree though, the defensive coverage needs work but I think that will tighten up with more games.



Meh, Blackwood also gave up two really leaky goals in the 3rd so while he made some great saves the first two periods, he was awful in the third.

As far as our goals against last night:
1) having to see a breakaway on the first shot you see has to be an almost worst case scenario for a goalie. No prior shots to start getting in a groove, just BAM.
2) The 2nd goal there was nothing Raanta could do. Watching it again, there was so much traffic he didn't even see it and the shot was to the right post as he was drifting left (the way Zadina was skating).
3) The 3rd goal was just a lucky bounce and nobody covering the guy right on the doorstep. I don't know, maybe Rant could have gotten back more but he's out of the net contesting the shot in the first place.


If your recall, our PK took time last year to find it's groove. IIRC, a poster commenting on it and attributing some of that to the loss of Trocheck. They found their groove after about 20 games though. The PK is the least of my concerns right now.

EDIT: last year, through 11/15 (16 games), the Canes PK was 78% which was 17th in the NHL. From that point on, it was 86.3% which was the best in the NHL over that stretch. I just randomly picked 11/15 as the date since I remember this being a discussion in mid Nov.

Yea, I'm pretty much with you on all points, and most of it was just general trends through the first 4 games I was noting vs specifically focusing on last night despite using examples from the game. Even RBAs comments pre-game show we've been pretty disappointing in-game despite the wins. Blackwood made a couple steals in the first, but some of his later goals (watched the highlights of the 2nd/3rd this morning) were definitely pretty leaky. I agree I think the D will settle down, and hopefully the PK tighten up...and hopefully the PP continues to grow from it's fairly hot (for us) start. Didn't get to watch the whole game yet, but from what I did see and read, outside of maybe later 2nd - early 3rd (and the atrocious breakaway on SJS first shot), we played a much more dominant and "complete" game I think than our first 3...granted SJS is expected to be a bottom team, but maybe they'll start to get more confidence and gel a bit more after the 3rd period on that one.

 

[Derailed75]

Hopefully, that will reduce our ST playing times

Do we really want that? We are killing SP right now. I mean killing it.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Did anyone else realize we're playing both San Jose and Seattle again next week? Weird quirk. Play them twice and that's it, bye bye.

 

[HisIceness]

Did anyone else realize we're playing both San Jose and Seattle again next week? Weird quirk. Play them twice and that's it, bye bye.

I did yes.

Schedules are weird. But having things like the state fair road trip make it so.

 

[cptjeff]

I did yes.

Schedules are weird. But having things like the state fair road trip make it so.

The NHL tries to give all the east teams one big west coast trip and all the western teams one big east coast swing, and they usually do them early in the season. We're playing our west coast trip now and facing west coast teams that will be doing their east coast swing, there's going to be overlap there.

 

[Coffee]

Canucks fan coming in peace just to lurk a bit


(I don’t like to lurk other teams forums without informing them, that just feels weird to me)


Carry on

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Canucks fan coming in peace just to lurk a bit


(I don’t like to lurk other teams forums without informing them, that just feels weird to me)


Carry on

In that case you are, in fact, not lurking. So really you just don't like to lurk...

Welcome! You'll notice how smart and excellent we all are.

 

[Coffee]

In that case you are, in fact, not lurking. So really you just don't like to lurk...

Welcome! You'll notice how smart and excellent we all are.

Ahaha

And agreed, you guys are a great vibe.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Canucks fan coming in peace just to lurk a bit


(I don’t like to lurk other teams forums without informing them, that just feels weird to me)


Carry on

Be honest, it's called stalking not lurking!

 

[Chrispy]

Canucks fan coming in peace just to lurk a bit


(I don’t like to lurk other teams forums without informing them, that just feels weird to me)


Carry on

Let me save you some time:

You’re not going to like the Canes’ offer for Garland.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Let me save you some time:

You’re not going to like the Canes’ offer for Garland.

I was gonna say EP

 

[The Faulker 27]

Canucks fan coming in peace just to lurk a bit


(I don’t like to lurk other teams forums without informing them, that just feels weird to me)


Carry on

That's entirely too much integrity. You're gonna have to tone that down a bit.

 

[Derailed75]

Be honest, it's called stalking not lurking!

Sugar stalks?

Let me save you some time:

You’re not going to like the Canes’ offer for Garland.

Plate garnish?

Egg and

I was gonna say EP

Eggs and parmesan?

H

Sugar stalks?


Plate garnish?

Egg and
Eggs and parmesan?

His name is coffee which is basically a food, he's gonna fit right in!

Don't know what the hell happened to my post I swear I'm not having a seizure

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Sugar stalks?


Plate garnish?

Egg and
Eggs and parmesan?

H
His name is coffee which is basically a food, he's gonna fit right in!

Don't know what the hell happened to my post I swear I'm not having a seizure

You quoted your post within a post, is this like Inception?

 

[Unsustainable]

Sugar stalks?


Plate garnish?

Egg and
Eggs and parmesan?

H
His name is coffee which is basically a food, he's gonna fit right in!

Don't know what the hell happened to my post I swear I'm not having a seizure

Coffee is just a bean soup, which doesnt belong in chilli.

 

[Chrispy]

You quoted your post within a post, is this like Inception?

Yo dawg, I saw you like to post, so I posted your post within your post.

 

[CanesUltimate11]

An above average goalie doesnt give up more than 2 goals right now.

Well, neither goalie gave up more than 2 goals so we're all good.

I mean, I can't really say any of the penalties against us shouldn't have been called. They were all legit penalties. We just play aggressively, and that crosses to playing stupidly

And at least half of them won't be called penalties by the end of the year and in the playoffs likely.

 

[WreckingCrew]

And at least half of them won't be called penalties by the end of the year and in the playoffs likely.

That's because half of them will be committed by their favored team, the other team will continue to be called as per usual

 

[Blueline Bomber]

And at least half of them won't be called penalties by the end of the year and in the playoffs likely.

Maybe? Our ability to get called for penalties even when officials are traditionally supposed to "let things go" has been pretty consistent