Confirmed with Link: Canes sign Jack Roslovic - 1 year/2.8M

[geehaad]

Isn't this what what we wanted Guentzel for?

I don't want to assume he's going to continue to produce like this for the entire year, but what y'all are describing is Guentzel's prime utilization. IMO, anyway.

 

[Svechhammer]

Isn't this what what we wanted Guentzel for?

I don't want to assume he's going to continue to produce like this for the entire year, but what y'all are describing is Guentzel's prime utilization. IMO, anyway.

I mean, yeah. Which is why its kind of shocking that we are seeing it play out to perfection so far with Roslovic.

To be fair, there was a lot else that Guentzel brought to his game. Yes, he had the ability to score, but he also can single handedly dogwalk a defense and create something out of nothing for himself, and he also had an A+ passing game which played extremely well with Aho and Jarvis. Roslo's utilization so far is more pure scorer, hence not having any assists on the year despite being on a line with Svech and Aho. Which, at least for now, is proving that it might be a better overall fit for us, and I did not see that coming.

 

[spockBokk]

He has already exceeded my expectations. Hopefully he keeps it up. In fact all of our offseason acquisitions have looked incredible to start the season. Walker is probably the worst of the bunch but he's still been better than any other 3rd pair D guys we've had in like the last 5 years (not counting last year where we legit had 2 2nd pairs).

Interesting onwhat others see.

I feel like Walker has been one of the best acquisitions, fit in seamlessly defensively. I expected a bit more offensively but they have Gostisbehere for that and it’s still very early in season.

I certainly agree he’s a high end 3rd pair guy. I’d expect him to get top 4 minutes next year.

On Roslovic, imagine the Canes may try to lock him up for 2-3yrs with an in-season extension if he keeps this up over the next few months. He’s only 27 so got a few prime years left.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Interesting onwhat others see.

I feel like Walker has been one of the best acquisitions, fit in seamlessly defensively. I expected a bit more offensively but they have Gostisbehere for that and it’s still very early in season.

I certainly agree he’s a high end 3rd pair guy. I’d expect him to get top 4 minutes next year.

On Roslovic, imagine the Canes may try to lock him up for 2-3yrs with an in-season extension if he keeps this up over the next few months. He’s only 27 so got a few prime years left.

I wasn't totally clear when I said "worst," should've meant compared to meeting my expectations. I think Walker has been rock solid for his role too but he's been about what I expected for the contract we gave him and his past play.

All the other guys have exceeded my expectations so far. Robinson I thought would be an AHLer and he's seamlessly replaced what Noesen provided last year. Roslovic obviously with the goal scoring and speed/forechecking. Ghost I expected to do well like his first short stint here but not quite ppg with 4 goals so far and taking hold of PP1. Carrier has looked amazing as well, although in a lesser role. All of them are outperforming their cap hits, some considerably.

Back to Walker, yes more offense would be nice, and he's taken the most penalties on the team but he has been very solid. I think he's a high end 3rd pair guy getting paid like it. I personally would not be thrilled with him in the top 4, although his skillset in theory would fit very well with Nikishin in the short term. I know some disagree with me but I think Burns will be around quite a bit longer on our top pair, even if not though the solution there isn't Walker or Chatfield and Chatfield basically has 2nd pair RHD locked down so I don't see a path to top 4 for Walker.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Back to Walker, yes more offense would be nice, and he's taken the most penalties on the team but he has been very solid. I think he's a high end 3rd pair guy getting paid like it. I personally would not be thrilled with him in the top 4, although his skillset in theory would fit very well with Nikishin in the short term. I know some disagree with me but I think Burns will be around quite a bit longer on our top pair, even if not though the solution there isn't Walker or Chatfield and Chatfield basically has 2nd pair RHD locked down so I don't see a path to top 4 for Walker.

I see Burns getting at least a 1 year extension, maybe even two. I just have my doubts that the Canes are going to play two rookies on defense next season, especially because Morrow's defensive game is still pretty raw. Their recent MO with rookies in general has been slow attrition.

 

[spockBokk]

I see Burns getting at least a 1 year extension, maybe even two. I just have my doubts that the Canes are going to play two rookies on defense next season, especially because Morrow's defensive game is still pretty raw. Their recent MO with rookies in general has been slow attrition.

I just don’t see Burns getting an extension at 40, going on 41. Even if he’s still playing at a high level now, the drop off is coming soon inevitably at some point.

Also, I’d imagine they’re not too concerned about 2 rookies on the blueline. I doubt they consider Nikishin a “normal” rookie, so Morrow would truly be the 1st yr guy. And depending on injuries, he may get into a games this season.

I see the D shaking out like this next season:

Slavin-Walker
Nikishin-Chatfield
Gostisbehere-Morrow

Yeah, that 3rd pairing might struggle defensively…but I think it could work if they’re given the same treatment that the Gostisbehere-Walker pairing is getting right now.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I just don’t see Burns getting an extension at 40, going on 41. Even if he’s still playing at a high level now, the drop off is coming soon inevitably at some point.

Also, I’d imagine they’re not too concerned about 2 rookies on the blueline. I doubt they consider Nikishin a “normal” rookie, so Morrow would truly be the 1st yr guy. And depending on injuries, he may get into a games this season.

I see the D shaking out like this next season:

Slavin-Walker
Nikishin-Chatfield
Gostisbehere-Morrow

Yeah, that 3rd pairing might struggle defensively…but I think it could work if they’re given the same treatment that the Gostisbehere-Walker pairing is getting right now.

I think it depends on how deep the Canes can go in the playoffs. If they actually win the Cup, I see Burns going out on top. If they get close but fall short again, I see Burns taking another whack at it and the Canes obliging.

 

[Unsustainable]

GMET is the extra terrestrial in finding players who fit

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I wasn't totally clear when I said "worst," should've meant compared to meeting my expectations. I think Walker has been rock solid for his role too but he's been about what I expected for the contract we gave him and his past play.

All the other guys have exceeded my expectations so far. Robinson I thought would be an AHLer and he's seamlessly replaced what Noesen provided last year. Roslovic obviously with the goal scoring and speed/forechecking. Ghost I expected to do well like his first short stint here but not quite ppg with 4 goals so far and taking hold of PP1. Carrier has looked amazing as well, although in a lesser role. All of them are outperforming their cap hits, some considerably.

Back to Walker, yes more offense would be nice, and he's taken the most penalties on the team but he has been very solid. I think he's a high end 3rd pair guy getting paid like it. I personally would not be thrilled with him in the top 4, although his skillset in theory would fit very well with Nikishin in the short term. I know some disagree with me but I think Burns will be around quite a bit longer on our top pair, even if not though the solution there isn't Walker or Chatfield and Chatfield basically has 2nd pair RHD locked down so I don't see a path to top 4 for Walker.

I think Walker has also been given the least defined role in terms of how you would measure success. Ghost is being put on PP1 and the results are obvious. Same with Ros being paired with top line players.

I haven't been able to watch a ton of Canes games this year but my impression is that they just want Walker to come in and be steady presence on the blueline and do a bit of everything and eat 16-18 min a night. Doesn't seem like they are really giving him the opportunity to shine a ton but he's +4 and not f***ing things up back there so we should all be happy to with that. Every team can use a few players like that on the back end.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I need to watch more non-Hurricanes hockey, I didn't realize Roslovic would fit the system this well. Pro scouting win.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I just don’t see Burns getting an extension at 40, going on 41. Even if he’s still playing at a high level now, the drop off is coming soon inevitably at some point.

Also, I’d imagine they’re not too concerned about 2 rookies on the blueline. I doubt they consider Nikishin a “normal” rookie, so Morrow would truly be the 1st yr guy. And depending on injuries, he may get into a games this season.

I see the D shaking out like this next season:

Slavin-Walker
Nikishin-Chatfield
Gostisbehere-Morrow

Yeah, that 3rd pairing might struggle defensively…but I think it could work if they’re given the same treatment that the Gostisbehere-Walker pairing is getting right now.

There is less than a zero % chance those pairings are a thing.

 

[NotOpie]

So your saying that Roslovic is going to get traded and with the pick we get back in the trade, we’ll draft a defenseman better than Slavin? That’s some pretty high hopes.

We might even get a 3rd rounder! Just think what we could do with that. Heck with our track record we could get another Jack LaFontaine, a Morgan Geekie, or some Russian named Alexander.

I need to watch more non-Hurricanes hockey, I didn't realize Roslovic would fit the system this well. Pro scouting win.

I keep remembering Rod's comments, I think it was during the pre-season where he said something about seeing him play with the Rangers and that he like his play.

 

[AD Skinner]

“I don’t notice him” is one of the nicest things you can say about a defenseman, and I haven’t really noticed walker at all

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

“I don’t notice him” is one of the nicest things you can say about a defenseman, and I haven’t really noticed walker at all

(Especially when said guy is also racking up extremely strong underlying analytics while doing so)

 

[HisIceness]

For some reason I thought Rosy was an Ohio State Buckeye alum and I was going to ask besides Dalpe, how many of those we've had suit up for the franchise, but he played for Miami.

 

[DaveG]

If Roslovic stays healthy and also stays with Aho and Svechnikov he should score 20-25g I’d say. His current shooting % is unsustainable and he’s bound to go through some inconsistency based on his past seasons, but I think 45-50pts for him should be attainable this year, which is awesome for $2.8M.

Early returns seems to indicate that he’s a great fit for the Canes’ style of play, so he may have found a home. They’ll certainly have the space to re-sign him if he can keep up his current level of play.

Wouldn't be shocked if we try, though I think he'll cash in via ufa elsewhere, and he'll deserve it for the season he's having.

 

[robbieberns]

Important context for Roslovic is he broke into Winnipeg as a highly touted skill guy and consistently found himself underutilized and set up for failure by Maurice, to the point where he sat out without a contract until he was included in the midseason Laine trade to Columbus. Scored at a 58 point pace that first half year with Columbus, followed up with a couple of 45 point seasons.

All of that being said it’s very easy to see how this is a guy who has finally found a right place right time situation and will ne hellbent on having a career year given his contract situation. Wouldn’t shock me to see a 65-70 point year if he stays with the first line all year.

 

[bleedgreen]

I don’t know that I’ve watched him close enough to say, but playing with Ghost 5v5 probably leaves Walker playing more of a sit back role which would affect his offense. Hopefully he finds some balance and starts picking some more spots to jump in because he’s a weapon in his own right. Maybe next year they split the pairs up differently.

I don’t think jr is doing anything really different with us, he’s taking advantage of a chance he really didn’t get before and he gets to be a shooter at the end of some nice plays he normally didn’t get too often. We’ve always been a team where a guy like this can get better ice time and a chance to finally perform. TT comes to mind as a comparison, Noesen as well.

Fans from other teams he played for have said he’ll show you the skill for a while but then it dries up and he doesn’t bring much else. I think we saw a bit of that early and it’s easy to see him being streaky. Hes scored pretty goals, you need to score the ugly ones to be more consistent and I don’t know if that’s his game. Still he was a good bet and so far it’s really paying off.