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themilosh said:
Agreed. I think the team should target either Reinbacher or Peliika at #8.. trade #5 to Washington for 8th & 40th.
That gives us: 8th (D), 29th (F), 37th (G Hrabel), 40th (BPA homerun swing).

I'd also consider trading CC + Anderson for Kakko & Lafreniere to the NYR.

And/or our 27th + Dvorak for PLD.

What a dream top 9: big, hulking, fast.

Suzuki - PLD - Kakko
Laff - Dach - Slaf
Heinemenn- Money - Ylonen
Speed - Speed - Speed
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ZUKI said:
I said it previously, if ever he signs 2 other seasons, it's because he wouldn't be on the first NHL entry level contract rules. So if he stays in Russia, he will make a lot more money then from the ELC .
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The 2 year rumour was Kravstov. Matvei is under contract and isn't eligible to re-negotiate an extension yet and why would he do so 3 years away even if he could?

There is no real advantage for him to stay any longer in the KHL even Kaprizov still had 2 years on his elc once he came over and given the fact that the max contract is just over a million US $, with max bonuses he could earn far more even on his ELC Here.

Matvei signed his deal at 16 because he wanted to give his family a comfortable life and while many people point to Kaprizov as a comparable, he had knowhere near the hype and wasn't likely to come over at 21 and sign for 10+ million after his first elc like Matvei probably could.
Even if Matvei is paid the special bonuses that the KHL has, the difference wouldn't be worth what he could start making at 24. At 24-27 he could be earning 10+ million while in the KHL he might make 2 million a season. Then there's the risk of injury.

Maybe he's one of the very few that prefer playing in a lesser league but that's an extreme rarity and hasn't happened with a 1st round pick since the Soviet era.
Him going too the draft and learning English speaks volumes and as far as the combine its a dumb event that plenty skip, including some top picks from Canada.
I really hope he does drop all the way to 11th which would give Vancouver 1st or 2nd oa talent at 5th in 2017, 7th in 2018 and 11th in 2023.

Any GM that passes on him is doing so for selfish reasons because a lot of these GMs will be gone in 3 years anyway.
 
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Runner77 said:
If Michkov is truly a top 2 pick, shouldn’t Anaheim or CBJ take him? But no, they’re settling for lesser talents instead. :sarcasm:
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No, they’re settling for less risky players who can jump to the NHL sooner.

Michkov’s talent is never questioned. No one says he’s not the 2nd most talented player in the draft. They site his contract, geopolitical issues etc. If he was playing in NA last season and didn’t have his KHL contract, he’d likely be the 2nd pick OA.

But teams don’t draft solely on skill, they consider all factors and because Michkov has all these other factors working against him, teams will make a safer pick but at some point the talent outweighs the risk. BJs even said they’re taking a center no matter what. For a team like Montreal with no elite prospects, have plenty of time before they become contenders and first time they’re even getting a sniff at a talent level this high, no, they can’t afford to pass on him.
 
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No, they’re settling for less risky players who can jump to the NHL sooner.

Michkov’s talent is never questioned. No one says he’s not the 2nd most talented player in the draft. They site his contract, geopolitical issues etc. If he was playing in NA last season and didn’t have his KHL contract, he’d likely be the 2nd pick OA.

But teams don’t draft solely on skill, they consider all factors and because Michkov has all these other factors working against him, teams will make a safer pick but at some point the talent outweighs the risk. BJs even said they’re taking a center no matter what. For a team like Montreal with no elite prospects, have plenty of time before they become contenders and first time they’re even getting a sniff at a talent level this high, no, they can’t afford to pass on him.
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Agree, with a lot of potential 2/3 liners in the pipeline and other first round picks from Florida and Calgary this year and 2026, it's the perfect situation to swing for the fence with this particular high pick.
 
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GrandBison said:
Agree, with a lot of potential 2/3 liners in the pipeline and other first round picks from Florida and Calgary this year and 2026, it's the perfect situation to swing for the fence with this particular high pick.
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The only way Michkov could fall to 5th is because of his baggage. Without that and there’d be zero chance he dropped to 5th.

Feels a bit like Caufield situation and his size being an issue. Falling to Habs was an absolute gift. Don’t think twice. Take Michkov!
 
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Matvei rumor + HFHabs = :scared:

bringbacktheskate604 said:
The 2 year rumour was Kravstov. Matvei is under contract and isn't eligible to re-negotiate an extension yet and why would he do so 3 years away even if he could?

There is no real advantage for him to stay any longer in the KHL even Kaprizov still had 2 years on his elc once he came over and given the fact that the max contract is just over a million US $, with max bonuses he could earn far more even on his ELC Here.

Matvei signed his deal at 16 because he wanted to give his family a comfortable life and while many people point to Kaprizov as a comparable, he had knowhere near the hype and wasn't likely to come over at 21 and sign for 10+ million after his first elc like Matvei probably could.
Even if Matvei is paid the special bonuses that the KHL has, the difference wouldn't be worth what he could start making at 24. At 24-27 he could be earning 10+ million while in the KHL he might make 2 million a season. Then there's the risk of injury.

Maybe he's one of the very few that prefer playing in a lesser league but that's an extreme rarity and hasn't happened with a 1st round pick since the Soviet era.
Him going too the draft and learning English speaks volumes and as far as the combine its a dumb event that plenty skip, including some top picks from Canada.
I really hope he does drop all the way to 11th which would give Vancouver 1st or 2nd oa talent at 5th in 2017, 7th in 2018 and 11th in 2023.

Any GM that passes on him is doing so for selfish reasons because a lot of these GMs will be gone in 3 years anyway.
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Matvei is on record saying his biggest dream is to play in the NHL.

He's going to the draft

He didn't receive an invitation for the combine
 
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Sterling Archer said:
No, they’re settling for less risky players who can jump to the NHL sooner.

Michkov’s talent is never questioned. No one says he’s not the 2nd most talented player in the draft. They site his contract, geopolitical issues etc. If he was playing in NA last season and didn’t have his KHL contract, he’d likely be the 2nd pick OA.

But teams don’t draft solely on skill, they consider all factors and because Michkov has all these other factors working against him, teams will make a safer pick but at some point the talent outweighs the risk. BJs even said they’re taking a center no matter what. For a team like Montreal with no elite prospects, have plenty of time before they become contenders and first time they’re even getting a sniff at a talent level this high, no, they can’t afford to pass on him.
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Evidently. I was being facetious.

The players slated to go ahead of Michkov are not only jumping to the NHL sooner, but likely many years ahead of where Michkov might potentially become available. Plus, orgs will have immediate control over the development of these draftees, which is a non-negligible fact when Michkov could arrive only 5 years from now or 3 or whatever.

Very easy for CBJ to say they’re taking a center. Four out of the 5 top ranked players are centers and by selecting 3rd, they are guaranteed to get one. That’s not indicative of anything other than what the draft is giving them.

Yes, the Habs need a high level player but this is also a very high pick where teams generally only take on so much risk.
 
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Sterling Archer said:
The only way Michkov could fall to 5th is because of his baggage. Without that and there’d be zero chance he dropped to 5th.

Feels a bit like Caufield situation and his size being an issue. Falling to Habs was an absolute gift. Don’t think twice. Take Michkov!
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Michkov has no bearing to Caufield. There was no doubt that Caufield once drafted, would immediately report to the team that took him. Michkov’s situation is murky and no one can guarantee when he may become available or how beholden he might be to his KHL team.
 
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Runner77 said:
Michkov has no bearing to Caufield. There was no doubt that Caufield once drafted, would immediately report to the team that took him. Michkov’s situation is murky and no one can guarantee when he may become available or how beholden he might be to his KHL team.
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I’m only drawing the comparison that they both fell for perceived issues. If Caufield was 6’+ he’d have gone in the top 10 of that draft.

Also, I seem to remember quite a bit of worry on the board that Caufield wouldn’t sign with Habs and wait to become a FA. It was never a slam dunk and Caufield also spent 2 years in NCAA where Habs didn’t have control over his development, one whole year less than Michkov will be in KHL.
 
I thought we finally had our dynasty in 2007-2008.

Plekanec, Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, Higgins, Price, Komisarek, Halak, Latendresse, Grabovski, Perezhogin.

They would all become star players. They all looked so good until it all came crashing down in mid 2009.

McDonagh, Pacioretty, Subban, Weber, Fischer, Emelin were the next waive who would make sure we stayed competitive for years.

We were set, we finally had the horses to be a good team for years and years. Still to this day I don't know what went wrong. :cry:

That was the most optimistic I've been about this team. I'm hoping Jeff Gorton can bring back that sort of buzz around the team.
 
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Plus hockey isn't as popular on the ground as it used to be. Kids playing in the streets, hockey cards, etc. For now hockey is still popular in MTL, but for how long?

This is Bettman's gravest mistake: Taking the strong Canadian markets for granted.
 
Ozymandias said:
It'd be nice, but no way will it transport the traditions, culture and history in a continuous line. The line between generations is about to be broken. In 30 years, there will be barely anyone left to remember that aura, to remember the zeitgeist of the past.
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That's evolution baby
 
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