Confirmed with Link: Canadiens re-sign Andreas Martinsen

[Toene]

Still people scratching their heads over this, it seems. You guys know that signing these guys doesn't mean they're etched in stone for the lineup next year without NTCs, right? Veteran depth already familiar with your systems isn't exactly worthless stuff to bring into camp. And furthermore, that what they sign for definitely impacts what they can be traded for at any point in the future if someone beats them out next year?

It's important to get these deals done, and done cheap. The sooner the better sometimes, even. If there's no direct reason NOT to bring them back (ex: salary, term, or destination demands), you don't put them on the back burner all summer as if they're unimportant if you can help it. You want motivated, not DE-motivated, vets pushing these guys in the fall. These aren't just video game characters.

Good post OJ. Liked Martinsen's hustle in the games he played for us. At least he's fast compared to Ott, King. In fact he's one of our fastest skaters.
As a 12th, 13th, 14th....etc forward he's all right imo.

 

[BLONG7]

And....there are ongoing negotiations with Flynn too.

This is a head scratcher?? I guess we are going to try to carry 15 guys, for our bottom 6 again this year!!

 

[The Great Weal]

Lmfao FLYNN

 

[vokiel]

This is a head scratcher?? I guess we are going to try to carry 15 guys, for our bottom 6 again this year!!

Bergevin signing plumbers is a head scratcher?

The guy wants to get rid of any player who could rise above the rest. Flynn doesn't qualify.

 

[BPD Habs Fan]

34 contracts signed up to now.
You could safely add (unless traded) guys ilke Beaulieu, DLR, Galchy, Hudon, Lindgren, Markov, Radulov. That makes 41. If Sergachev makes it, 42.

So you have 8 left (if you want to go to 50, which we shouldn't) for guys like: Crisp, Hanley, Johnston, Lowe, MacMillan, Matteau, Nesterov, Thrower, Farnham, Flynn, King. And while that list is incredibly underwhelming, you will need bodies in Laval and they can't all be signed to a AHL-ECHL contract.

So that's disregarding the acqusititions we can make and the fact that NOBODY should go at 50 prior to the start of the year.

So you have no problem adding Flynn? Who else out of that list you want?

Seriously I don't want the ones we have now. In a vacuum I don't like this deal because I don't think this guy is worth the contract slot.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Every team must expose at least two forwards (and one D) under contract for 17-18 (right don't suffice) who meets the 40/1,70/2 rule.

Mitchell and Martinsen meet the rule and WILL be exposed.

M.P, P.B., P.D., A.G., B.G.

That's five guys that are absolute locks to be protected (the only way they aren't protected is if they're traded). And there are quite a few players between those five players and Mitchell/Martinsen, starting with the obvious Alex Radulov if he has to be protected. If not, well, there's still Plekanec and Shaw. And even Hudon for all I care (who doesn't meet the criteria above but is otherwise not exempt).

Bottom-line : Even if we end up protecting both Plekanec and Shaw, we'd satisfy the requirements as far as exposed players are concerned. Hell, any combination of Plekanec, Shaw, Mitchell and Martinsen would work. Flynn doesn't have to be signed for that sole purpose, unless of our our players that need to be protected is traded for an exempt player, in which case we might be stuck protecting three of Plekanec, Shaw, Mitchell and Martinsen (and if it comes to that, just protect Hudon and you still have two players who meet the criteria without having to sign Flynn, or Radulov if you want to go absolutely by the book.)

Martinsen does NOT meet the rule because he is exempt.

However, Chris Terry DOES meet the rule, as does Torrey Mitchell and Tomas Plekanec. It is not possible for those three to all be protected.

 

[Poochie_D]

I really like Martinsen. Not sure what the hate is about.

1. Big
2. Can skate
3. Physical


What more do you guys want from a 12th/13th forward?

 

[Whitesnake]

I really like Martinsen. Not sure what the hate is about.

1. Big
2. Can skate
3. Physical


What more do you guys want from a 12th/13th forward?

It's really as if people only watched his 1st game...Besides, we are not in 2005. You still need to NOT be a liability when you are on the ice. And he was, reason why he wasn't used more in the playoffs.

 

[Agalloch]

Again Flynn, he could easily be on waivers and play in Laval.

It could be for the expansion draft too.

Plekanec could be traded that way (for a draft pick for example). And protect Mitchell. (I would protect Hudon/DLR, but it's maybe what they are doing).

So our 2 forwards with 40 games played and signed for 2017-18 would be Terry and Flynn.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Again Flynn, he could easily be on waivers and play in Laval.

It could be for the expansion draft too.

Plekanec could be traded that way (for a draft pick for example). And protect Mitchell. (I would protect Hudon/DLR, but it's maybe what they are doing).

So our 2 forwards with 40 games played and signed for 2017-18 would be Terry and Flynn.

No need, you trade Plekanec AFTER the draft if both teams know they are taking someone else.

 

[LastWordArmy]

Again Flynn, he could easily be on waivers and play in Laval.

It could be for the expansion draft too.

Plekanec could be traded that way (for a draft pick for example). And protect Mitchell. (I would protect Hudon/DLR, but it's maybe what they are doing).

So our 2 forwards with 40 games played and signed for 2017-18 would be Terry and Flynn.

Flynn is not signed. Martinsen is not eligible.

The 2 forwards right now are Mitchell and Terry.

There is a good chance Plekanec would make 3 (you only need two though).

 

[Agalloch]

Flynn is not signed. Martinsen is not eligible.

The 2 forwards right now are Mitchell and Terry.

There is a good chance Plekanec would make 3 (you only need two though).

Yea, I know that.

I'm just trying to understand why trying to sign Flynn right now.

 

[MtlBoxFan]

He's like a 13th forward.



Martinsen is RFA. They signed him to a 1 year deal.

Why does this make the organization pathetic?

Let me guess, because I'm not pointlessly negative about signing an RFA to a 1 year deal at some cheap amount I must be a MB defender.

At what point do people realize *****ing about these types of signings is pointless? It's not even July 1st, the draft or anything. Hockey is still being played.

I think some people don't like the GM doubling down on guys that were pickups last year that were not really effective. How much of this is about making the team better vs saving face?

 

[scrubadam]

I think some people don't like the GM doubling down on guys that were pickups last year that were not really effective. How much of this is about making the team better vs saving face?

Why would MB not give a QO to a player who we own the rights to?

His salary is essentially his QO which is 110% of salary the year before. MB paid an extra 5K.

Martinsens accepted the cheapest and 1st contract he could. I don't see why it would be better to lose him for nothing. Worse case scenario we trade him at some point for a 7th rounder or another middling player.

 

[Andrei79]

I don't mind the signing.

The trade to me, like every trade we did at the TDL, was completely useless, but that's another story. If competition is what's important here I feel Andrighetto could've given that against a guy like Hudon, both vying for a role on the top 9.

 

[vokiel]

Why would MB not give a QO to a player who we own the rights to?

His salary is essentially his QO which is 110% of salary the year before. MB paid an extra 5K.

Martinsens accepted the cheapest and 1st contract he could. I don't see why it would be better to lose him for nothing. Worse case scenario we trade him at some point for a 7th rounder or another middling player.

Because he sucks. Next question.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I liked him - he hits

 

[The Great Weal]

He was great in that one game in the regular season against the Rangers. However he has been putrid ever since then.

 

[Belial]

He was great in that one game in the regular season against the Rangers. However he has been putrid ever since then.

He played a total of 11 games for us showing some nice flashes, I don't think we saw enough of this guy.

 

[The Great Weal]

He played a total of 11 games for us showing some nice flashes, I don't think we saw enough of this guy.

No no, we only saw flashes in that one game. I found him absolutely terrible in every other game, not even exaggerating.

 

[Whitesnake]

No no, we only saw flashes in that one game. I found him absolutely terrible in every other game, not even exaggerating.

Stop it. He has a great quality. He is easily buryable in the minors.

 

[The Great Weal]

Stop it. He has a great quality. He is easily buryable in the minors.

Still one of the top Norwegian players in the world, hard not to get excited over that.

 

[Agalloch]

Stop it. He has a great quality. He is easily buryable in the minors.

That's not his quality. His quality is being a depth player with a low low cap hit.

 

[vokiel]

That's not his quality. His quality is being a depth player with a low low cap hit.

Well that's not great, how about just: Quality: Can throw punches.

 

[Agalloch]

Well that's not great, how about just: Quality: Can throw punches.

We had last year Matteau as one way minimum NHL salary playing all year in the AHL.

Martinsen will need to make the team out of camp. Young players (DLR, Hudon, McCarron) will need to win their spot on the team. If they can't beat him, well, they don't belong in the NHL and we're screwed a little.