Post-Game Talk: Canadiens 2 Bruins 1 (SO)
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Yes of course. Just funny that the poster chose to point out the MaxPac instance instead of the Marchand.
So yeah, should've been a penalty then?
And that was to get the refs attention BEFORE PLAY STARTED
Gotta love these comparisons Habs fans are making. Absolutely ludicrous.
Sheppy
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Here's my rant for the day about Boston/Montreal physical play:
I work with 3-4 Habs fans, mind you, i'm one of like 4 Bruins fans in my town so i get the storm of Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, Edmonton fans flappin' their gums.
Canadiens fans are so quick to cry about physical play, seriousy, I have never seen anything like it before in my entire life. It starts in their building too, basically 95% of the time a Canadiens player falls on the ice the crowd instantly uproars in "Booooooo" as if there should have been a penalty on the play regardless of what happened. It's kind of comical to be honest, and sad.
Now, do i think that the Emelin hit on Lucic was dirty? Maybe a little, but for the most part no. I think it's a legal hit, that is a sketchy, maybe even a bit dirty of a play, much like the shoulder to head contact that was once legal, but now isn't. Now, this is what frustrates me here... I guarantee you had Lucic made that same hit on Emelin, and a guy came after him he'd immediately drop his gloves, It's called being a man. How long after that did Miller put Weise into the boards (it was NOT a dirty play, but a bit sketchy to an extent) - Moen comes over and Miller drops the gloves and they fight, once again, it's called owning up and being a man.
Weaver hits Paille ( a guy who's had concussion problems ) high, and to the head. Campbell then goes after Weaver, tugs his jersey to get him to own up, but once again there's a decline. Typical when you play this franchise.
Subban, a few years ago did a fly by on David Krejci hitting him in the head. Ference then comes over, grabs Subban and he turtles to the hit. Once again, i guarantee you if that were Ference making that hit on a star player, he'd own up and fight his battle.
Subban last night takes a run at Boychuk, pops him in the head while he was on the ice. Boychuk then gets up, swings and misses, grabs Subban as he's dramatically palms out screaming for a call, then rag dolls him to the ice, Subban once again turtles. Now, do i agree with him always having to fight? Absolutely not. However, people defending it sayings "Hey, that's awesome, he drew a call!" - Cool, right on, here's your 2 minutes in the box, but here's a clear memory of you acting like a complete fairy to take home with you too.
I remember Josh Gorges bumping into Thornton a few years ago after a Bruins/Habs scrum, what happens next? Thornton looks at him and says "Lets go" - Gorges then turtles, Thornton gets a penalty. It's smart to an extent, but dear god for once just man up, is it that hard?
Now, here's another thing i don't understand and if this were the Bruins, i'd be disgusted with my team...
Chara damn near ends Pacioretty's career, leaves him plastered on the ice in need of a stretcher and severe medical help. What do the Habs players do? They just stand there... Well, i guess Scott Gomez frowned a mean face at Z, but that's it. They did nothing, absolutely nothing. Not even the next game, or hell, anytime after that. They just stand around and "hope the league takes care of it" or better yet "let the police take care of it" - If that were the Bruins i'd be absolutely disgusted.
I just don't get why they hate the physical stuff so much? - They piss and moan constantly about the silliest things. I can't remember the last time that i have seen a Bruins player act the same way a Habs player did with the turtling. As a Bruins fan, i'm so thankful you don't see them do that. It's a disgrace.
I work with 3-4 Habs fans, mind you, i'm one of like 4 Bruins fans in my town so i get the storm of Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, Edmonton fans flappin' their gums.
Canadiens fans are so quick to cry about physical play, seriousy, I have never seen anything like it before in my entire life. It starts in their building too, basically 95% of the time a Canadiens player falls on the ice the crowd instantly uproars in "Booooooo" as if there should have been a penalty on the play regardless of what happened. It's kind of comical to be honest, and sad.
Now, do i think that the Emelin hit on Lucic was dirty? Maybe a little, but for the most part no. I think it's a legal hit, that is a sketchy, maybe even a bit dirty of a play, much like the shoulder to head contact that was once legal, but now isn't. Now, this is what frustrates me here... I guarantee you had Lucic made that same hit on Emelin, and a guy came after him he'd immediately drop his gloves, It's called being a man. How long after that did Miller put Weise into the boards (it was NOT a dirty play, but a bit sketchy to an extent) - Moen comes over and Miller drops the gloves and they fight, once again, it's called owning up and being a man.
Weaver hits Paille ( a guy who's had concussion problems ) high, and to the head. Campbell then goes after Weaver, tugs his jersey to get him to own up, but once again there's a decline. Typical when you play this franchise.
Subban, a few years ago did a fly by on David Krejci hitting him in the head. Ference then comes over, grabs Subban and he turtles to the hit. Once again, i guarantee you if that were Ference making that hit on a star player, he'd own up and fight his battle.
Subban last night takes a run at Boychuk, pops him in the head while he was on the ice. Boychuk then gets up, swings and misses, grabs Subban as he's dramatically palms out screaming for a call, then rag dolls him to the ice, Subban once again turtles. Now, do i agree with him always having to fight? Absolutely not. However, people defending it sayings "Hey, that's awesome, he drew a call!" - Cool, right on, here's your 2 minutes in the box, but here's a clear memory of you acting like a complete fairy to take home with you too.
I remember Josh Gorges bumping into Thornton a few years ago after a Bruins/Habs scrum, what happens next? Thornton looks at him and says "Lets go" - Gorges then turtles, Thornton gets a penalty. It's smart to an extent, but dear god for once just man up, is it that hard?
Now, here's another thing i don't understand and if this were the Bruins, i'd be disgusted with my team...
Chara damn near ends Pacioretty's career, leaves him plastered on the ice in need of a stretcher and severe medical help. What do the Habs players do? They just stand there... Well, i guess Scott Gomez frowned a mean face at Z, but that's it. They did nothing, absolutely nothing. Not even the next game, or hell, anytime after that. They just stand around and "hope the league takes care of it" or better yet "let the police take care of it" - If that were the Bruins i'd be absolutely disgusted.
I just don't get why they hate the physical stuff so much? - They piss and moan constantly about the silliest things. I can't remember the last time that i have seen a Bruins player act the same way a Habs player did with the turtling. As a Bruins fan, i'm so thankful you don't see them do that. It's a disgrace.
GloryDaze4877
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Only difference is that it didn't happen during the course of play, and was before the puck drop on the faceoff...and Marchand did it because Julien was trying to get the refs attention.
But thanks for playing.
Artemis
Took the red pill
Great rant, Sheppy.
I'll just add to it by noting that the Montreal players of old must be flabbergasted watching the current edition. Would Rocket Richard or Serge Savard or any of the other great names in Canadiens history applaud or even condone the sort of crap guys like Subban pull on a regular basis?
I'll just add to it by noting that the Montreal players of old must be flabbergasted watching the current edition. Would Rocket Richard or Serge Savard or any of the other great names in Canadiens history applaud or even condone the sort of crap guys like Subban pull on a regular basis?
Ok so the penalty only gets awarded when it's during play and not before and it can also be awarded by a stick breaking and doesn't have to be intentional. At least clarify when posting. Don't get mad at someone posting something with "thanks for playing".
GloryDaze4877
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Ok so the penalty only gets awarded when it's during play and not before and it can also be awarded by a stick breaking and doesn't have to be intentional. At least clarify when posting. Don't get mad at someone posting something with "thanks for playing".
I didn't think I would have to break it down for you, but Marchand couldn't be guilt of interfering with the play, when there was no play to interfere with.
I suppose the ref could have given him an Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalty...just like they could have given to Pacioretty for breaking the stick on the bench.
Yeah, figure they can call it unsportsmanlike since they can call a penalty when fans throw stuff on the ice. They should have a better way of getting the refs attention from a coaches POV. It happens a few times a game when a coach wants to speak to the ref but the ref doesn't notice. It'll probably get out of hand seeing how much coaches and refs agree on calls.
robert terwilliger
the bart, the
"take that boychuk!"
...
"help!"
...
"hey man, don't know why you're so mad. lot of guys in blue white and red here..."
robert terwilliger
the bart, the
curious what's next on the flowchart. let me look.
[discuss montreal's stanley cups, many of which were won before your grandparents were alive]
[discuss montreal's stanley cups, many of which were won before your grandparents were alive]
CrowSettere
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I'll be honest, I dropped my rivalry anger with the Habs about, maybe 2.5 years ago.
Fair to say, it's been renewed.
Fair to say, it's been renewed.
Rubber Biscuit
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GloryDaze4877
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Let's talk about how before the Draft as we know it, the Habs would go out and sign hundreds of prospects to "C-Forms" when they were 13 or 14 before any of the other teams saw them, thus establishing a stranglehold on most of the talent in the QUE province.
robert terwilliger
the bart, the
that's the step after [bring up playoff wins that happened more than a generation ago]
Props to the man from Yellowknife!
And regarding sticks in the groin area...Didn't Bergy get a stick chop there not long ago and went after the offender? (A bigger guy, as I recall, and Bergy isn't known as a fighter.)
I know, I know, plate in the head and all that.
BklyNBruiN
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Well said, and right on! Very good post and I agree with everything you said.. I believe that as long as that franchise continue with that culture they won't win another cup.
I absolutely despise that franchise, and even more so in the last 5-7 years.
Ya know I pretty much can get a long with most anyone, but I wonder if I knew any Hab fans would I be able to get a long with him/her lol
Its crazy, you can't even have a decent conversation with them on the game its like they have a warped view of what the game is.. Again, as long as they continue with this culture they are riding with they won't win another Cup.
Dennis Bonvie
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Very good point.
But the Devil's Advocate gets to use contradictory arguments in different verbal jousts.
Dennis Bonvie
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BklyNBruiN
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"take that boychuk!"
...
"help!"
...
"hey man, don't know why you're so mad. lot of guys in blue white and red here..."
That says it all about the make up of that franchise and what they stand for.. Its disgusting how can anyone be a fan of that.. Were talking the game of hockey! Unbelievable.
Dennis Bonvie
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