Canadian World Cup roster announced

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Cyclops II said:
He IS somewhat overrated but there is nothing wrong with the selection.
Hannan is a better defenseman than most of the selections though. He certainly should be ahead of Regehr, Foote, Brewer and Jovanovski. I would leave off Brewer and Jovanovski.
Stuart has not done enough to belong on the team. Can't play the point and gives the puck away too often.

Your pick of Hannan is JUST as SJ bias as a Flames fan picking Robyn as better defensively. In the SJ and Flames series Hannan hasn't impressed me. I was expecting much more from the hype he was getting.
 
Cyclops II said:
He IS somewhat overrated but there is nothing wrong with the selection.
Hannan is a better defenseman than most of the selections though. He certainly should be ahead of Regehr, Foote, Brewer and Jovanovski. I would leave off Brewer and Jovanovski.
Stuart has not done enough to belong on the team. Can't play the point and gives the puck away too often.

Holy homer alert. There's no way that Hannan should be there over Foote or Jovo. It's closer for Regehr and Brewer, but I'd still take both of them over Hannan.
 
Cyclops II said:
He IS somewhat overrated but there is nothing wrong with the selection.
Hannan is a better defenseman than most of the selections though. He certainly should be ahead of Regehr, Foote, Brewer and Jovanovski. I would leave off Brewer and Jovanovski.
Stuart has not done enough to belong on the team. Can't play the point and gives the puck away too often.

Hannan is better than Jovo?

Alright....
 
Cyclops II said:
He IS somewhat overrated but there is nothing wrong with the selection.
Hannan is a better defenseman than most of the selections though. He certainly should be ahead of Regehr, Foote, Brewer and Jovanovski. I would leave off Brewer and Jovanovski.
Stuart has not done enough to belong on the team. Can't play the point and gives the puck away too often.
LOL, oh man, you are just too much.

Regehr is overrated... Donovan is a minor leaguer... Yelle sucks...

I guess Iginla should be left off, becuase he's a fluke, right Cyclops? ;)
 
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Come on guys, Brewer has played on the last 3 winning men's international teams that had NHL players! Think that is a mistake? He obviously held his own and helped those teams to win. He played amazing for the Oilers during the second half of the year and in the WC. Of course he was going to be there.

He is going to surprise a lot of you guys.
 
Rydified said:
Holy crap did he say hannan was better then jovo? I hate the canucks and i still think jovo is top 4 D in the LEAGUE
Not just Jovo, but MOST of the Team Canada defenseman.
 
Tuggy said:
I agree completely...this team will bod 3 outstanding scoring lines and an elite checking line.

People underestimate the value of players like Draper and Maltby.


I don't think that's it.

Draper and Maltby are roleplayers on a very good team full of stars. Guys like Primeau and Peca are the best players on their teams. Draper doesn't do everything Primeau does, Primeau does everything Draper does and then some.


So I think my problem is what those two do. It's that I believe there were better choices out there. But I don't think there's a single roster out there that could please everyone. Doesn't mean we don't chip in with our two cents though :)
 
Rabid Ranger said:
1) What on earth gave Quinn the idea to go with Joseph?
Answer:

1. Cujo was the incumbent from the 96 World Cup after roy bowed out.
 
If these boards existed in 1991, the Dirk Graham selection would have been criticized but he played a key role in defeating the United States. Shame on all of you for questioning the Great Wayne Gretzky.

Canada wins the 2004 World Cup!
 
I'd suggest the reason why Primeau didn't make the team is footspeed.

Compared to Maltby and Draper, Primeau is quite slow. I think Team Canada was looking for an elite penalty killing pairing, and Maltby and Draper are probobly the best pairing in the league (though I personally prefer Pandolfo & Madden).

Gagne and Brewer to me are the truely mystifying ones. I like Kariya a lot more than Gagne, particularly when you imagine the line in the 2002 Olympics where Kariya was with Lemieux and Sakic, which was excellent. With Brewer.. well, let's face it - it was a Kevin Lowe selection.
 
Liquidrage said:
I don't think that's it.

Draper and Maltby are roleplayers on a very good team full of stars. Guys like Primeau and Peca are the best players on their teams. Draper doesn't do everything Primeau does, Primeau does everything Draper does and then some.

Primeau better than Roenick? ... there's a new one.

Who exactly was a better forward than Draper on Detroit this season? (outside the mounth of december.)

You also think Primeau skates like Draper and kills penalties like Draper?.... I sure Don't.
 
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Mizral said:
I'd suggest the reason why Primeau didn't make the team is footspeed.

Compared to Maltby and Draper, Primeau is quite slow.. I think Team Canada was looking for an elite penalty killing pairing, and Maltby and Draper are probobly the best pairing in the league (though I personally prefer Pandolfo & Madden).

Arggh, you beat me too it and just to add on... Canada has some big body scorers aswell, so Primeau's size isn't a necessity either.
 
Boomhower said:
Primeau better than Roenick? ... there's a new one.

Who exactly was a better forward than Draper on Detroit this season? (outside the mounth of december.)

You also think Primeau skates like Draper and kills penalties like Draper?.... I sure Don't.

This year, yes. Career wise. No.

I am not a Primeau fan. I've dogged him more then most.

But I have seen every Flyers game this year minus the one where I was on the road to Tampa to watch them in person and they were playing the Panthers. And Primeau has been their best player this year. And in the playoff's it's not even close. He's been the best player on ANY team in the playoffs.
 
I'm kind of surprised Gagne got the nod over Primeau but consider this: Will Primeau be the same force in the World Cup that he is in the Stanley Cup playoffs? I know the World Cup is a big thing in Canada, but it doesn't compare to the Stanley Cup. I can't see Primeau equalling his performance.
 
Seven_Nation_Army said:
Scott Walker > Ryan Smyth, or at least he was this year...oh well, thats alright...he'll have a little more rest before the start of next season.

You're right Jmac Gretzky and Lowe must share a pillow at night.

That is so laughable...Ryan Smyth plays with so much heart and passion and raises his game up a notch in international tourneys. Every time he has been asked even when slightly injured he has played for team Canada at World Championships. I like Scott Walker but Smyth is better suited on this team.

Personally, I don't mind the absence of Karyia and could do without Lemieux and maybe Stevie Y. I thought Draper had a great chance to make this team but Maltby was a total surprise.

I think Lecavalier and Primeau could take Marios and Yzermans place.
 
Rabid Ranger said:
Not really. Neither player on their own belongs on an Olympic calibre team. My opinion though.

Comparing Zamuner and Maltby in any way is laughable. Even comparing their selection status isn't right.

They know darn well what their getting in Maltby. People knock the Zamuner selection because they were fooled into picking a flash in the pan player who just happened to be coming off a good year. Yes Zamuner put up semi big numbers that year, but he was never considered a really tough player to play against and that's the role they picked him for...
 
nordique said:
So we won't lose.

You're right, we really should have considered leaving off someone who has won the Art Ross, Richard Trophy (twice) and Lester B. Pearson Trophy in the last 3 years, tied for the league lead in goals this year, is almost at a PPG pace in the playoffs captaining his overachieving team to the WCF (so far...) and has won gold at the Olympics (scoring 2 goals in the Gold Medal game), World Juniors and World Championships.

Good call. Last time I checked, it was about a team winning, not individuals.

You can leave your sarcasm at the door, or you can just skip over my contribution to the board.
 
Mizral said:
Gagne and Brewer to me are the truely mystifying ones. I like Kariya a lot more than Gagne, particularly when you imagine the line in the 2002 Olympics where Kariya was with Lemieux and Sakic, which was excellent. With Brewer.. well, let's face it - it was a Kevin Lowe selection.

As with the Olympic team, Lowe had a large part to do with Brewer being on the team. One reason given for him being on that team was to gain Olympic experience for some the young improving D. In the years since that pick, Brewer has not become the D everyone thought he would be. Lowe, however, is still hoping and thus Brewer's pick on this World Cup team.

Brewer underachieves half of every year and even when he starts to play a better game, he isn't great in any one area. Considering his size, he doesn't play that tough. Considering his skating, he doesn't produce that much offense. Considering his assets, he's pretty average, other than his reputation, which is overblown.
 
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