GDT: Canada vs USA, Group A, Dec 31 2024; 20:00 EST

[PaulD]

He already knows that. He is playing on the wing.

Players know lots. But reminders can sometimes help.

 

[PaulD]

Well he has sucked. Let's be real. Leaf fans it's ok.

No debating that.

 

[lancepitlick]

"they're just kids" as the entire lower bowl leaves early and they get booed off the ice.

It shouldn't get personal (same for pros), but I have zero problem booing a poor effort or walking out. If you go on Twitter to harrass people or yell at a player about his sister/mom, you're a lover.

This is the guy they willingly chose to coach this team.

Even if that's what you think, that can't be your answer as Head Coach. You can't Bench players? You couldn't have sat a bone head for a period against Latvia to send a message? No wonder this dude has always come up short.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Aside from Finland which was 3 games ago now, Canada hasn't scored an ES goal either. TSN has so much cope for how utterly shit this Canadian team is.

Why do Canadian fans shit on their teams so much? Why not leave it at say we are underachieving or overrated?

These players are 18\19 year olds...lol. Can't imagine NCAA Football or BB fans shitting on their teams like this.

It's Canada.. they will build from this. The documentary will be epic.

US fan here. Canada absolutely capable of winning Gold here.

 

[NyQuil]

Can't imagine NCAA Football or BB fans shitting on their teams like this.

I don’t think you need a lot of imagination, I see it all the time.

There’s a lot of money put down on those games and a lot of angry people.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Players know lots. But reminders can sometimes help.

Who will be better, your Lane or Caps Cole?

I don’t think you need a lot of imagination, I see it all the time.

There’s a lot of money put down on those games and a lot of angry people.

Not true die hard fans.

 

[Crosby2010]

If Anderson Cooper died his hair salt and pepper would anyone even notice that he's coaching Team Canada and not Cameron?

Okay, in all seriousness, did no one remember 2011 before they asked this guy to coach again?

The last thing I want to be is right about this team. And I was hoping last night they'd stick it to me and have one of those statement games. Because my thought is the same as is was a few days ago that the Latvia loss is going to be too great of an obstacle to overcome. Poland beat the Soviets 6-4 in the 1976 World Championships in the round robin and the result was the Soviets did not win that year. The Soviets had beaten them 16-1 in the Olympics two months earlier. They won every year. Sometimes a loss to a bad team just does wonders to a team's confidence. I likened it to losing an arm wrestle to your little sister. Would you not still have that hanging over your head that everyone witnessed this?

They've got one more chance, and I hope they do it. But they've done nothing to show any of us that they are a team that can win. So much about this team was built from the ground up and if they win it will be in spite of that.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I haven't read the thread but just wanted to say I thought the reffing was very fair and every penalty call was legit. If our team (Canada) wants less penalties, they should stop taking penalties. I also thought Canada played a good game (maybe even the better team overall) but the US had the better chances. Hopefully our guys have learned from this.

 

[Crosby2010]

I haven't read the thread but just wanted to say I thought the reffing was very fair and every penalty call was legit. If our team (Canada) wants less penalties, they should stop taking penalties. I also thought Canada played a good game (maybe even the better team overall) but the US had the better chances. Hopefully our guys have learned from this.

They can't afford to make a mistake anymore. If they haven't learned by tomorrow then they are out. They shot themselves in the foot. Lost to Latvia and yet STILL had the chance to finish 1st with the easier Switzerland in the quarters. Now we are looking at a Czech, Swede, American trio of games to win the gold.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Oh god they get the Czechs?

Yeah theyre done.

Come on man, you're Canadian you should know better. Canada can absolutely win tourney. Just give McKenna more TOI and your goalie can win games.

 

[Kranix]

Hockey supremacy is finally decided once and for all time

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I'm more optimistic about this team Canada than I was coming into this game. They dominated 5v5.

I'm not sure if dominated is the right word, they scored 0 5v5 goals and the US hit 3 posts. Canada was better for the first half of the 2nd period, but aside from that they weren't that good.

Maybe it would help if they stayed out of the box.

 

[Crosby2010]

Come on man, you're Canadian you should know better. Canada can absolutely win tourney. Just give McKenna more TOI and your goalie can win games.

That would be logical, because it could happen. The question is, does Cameron swallow his pride and do a shake up? It is obvious McKenna is a stud and a game changer and is one of the best 1-2 players on the team. You need to ride guys like this. But Canada has a woeful history of relying on uber talented 17 year olds at this tournament. Bedard was just the exception, not the rule. Lindros the exception too. I can still remember 1998 when it was clear Lecavalier needed more ice time. Or in 2013 when MacKinnon was hidden on the 4th line but then 4 months later was Memorial Cup MVP and the 1st overall pick. It is an old boys club, and Hockey Canada never thinks they are wrong. Bad combo.

 

[novisor]

I haven't read the thread but just wanted to say I thought the reffing was very fair and every penalty call was legit. If our team (Canada) wants less penalties, they should stop taking penalties. I also thought Canada played a good game (maybe even the better team overall) but the US had the better chances. Hopefully our guys have learned from this.

Meh, most of them were but not all. The issues were twofold a) nothing chincy and borderline was being called on the US; and b) the ref should know at some point, to put his fu**ing whistle away and just let them play.

Doesn’t mean Canada was undisciplined though.

 

[Crosby2010]

I'm not sure if dominated is the right word, they scored 0 5v5 goals and the US hit 3 posts. Canada was better for the first half of the 2nd period, but aside from that they weren't that good.

Maybe it would help if they stayed out of the box.

Yeah I not sure what game was watched either. Canada definitely wasn't better. 1st period maybe, but that's it. And even then it was the old story of quantity of shots but not quality of shots. Honestly, I have never seen a team fire so many shots on net who had so few scoring chances. I can't even think of a precedence. Usually when you have a high volume by percentages alone you get the good quality ones too. But it didn't happen against Latvia, so why would it vs. USA?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Meh, most of them were but not all. The issues were twofold a) nothing chincy and borderline was being called on the US; and b) the ref should know at some point, to put his fu**ing whistle away and just let them play.

Doesn’t mean Canada was undisciplined though.

On the other hand, every one of these Canadian kids grew up watching this tournament and year after year we hear the same mantra about how these international refs call everything tighter - they all know it darn well. The whistles aren't going away, these refs are being evaluated for future World Championships and Olympics opportunities, they are going to call everything as they see it by the IIHF book. The players just have to know better

 

[Crosby2010]

I agree the reffereeing is not up to par. However, we know this. As Canadians we have known this since, what, the 1990s? Maybe before. But we played the Americans last night, it isn't as if they are sweethearts out there either, yet they played more disciplined. And even so, this reffing is better than the 1990s or even well into the 2000s when an open ice hit that sounded hard was called for a penalty. And for those that remember this you know that wasn't a joke either. And yet we still won 5 in a row in the 1990s and 5 in a row in the 2000s. Something no one else did even once. So you should know the second you hear the Swedish accent from the ref that the game is going to be called tight.

 

[57special]

I haven't read the thread but just wanted to say I thought the reffing was very fair and every penalty call was legit. If our team (Canada) wants less penalties, they should stop taking penalties. I also thought Canada played a good game (maybe even the better team overall) but the US had the better chances. Hopefully our guys have learned from this.

If anything, I thought the refs could've called more penalties on Canada. There were a couple of shots to the head from behind, contact after the whistle that went way over the line, and one boarding call that should've been 5. Junior hockey, especially IIHF, has more of an emphasis on protecting the head, yet i didn't see it here. Cameron saying it's no concern of his .... that comment leaves me speechless. The complaining by the CAN players about the calls kind of blew my mind, and shows that they just didn't "get it". There was maybe one call that was borderline.

Besides the excess physicality, there were a lot of bobbled pucks, poor passes, overpassing, and missed nets. Canadians seemed tight... too revved up. Chemistry was lacking, excpet in the case of Catton and Mckenna, but even there it seemed that they were missing a 3rd linemate. Would've like to have seen someone like Luchanko on that line.

Americans really packed it in defensively, and made CAN pay on special teams. Took a page from Latvia's book. Thought Buium had a strong game. Didn't think he had that level of defensive intensity in him.

 

[bobber]

Canada has the lowest scoring percentage of all the teams in the tourney. George is the only player that shows up in the stats. Lack of creative set up players on this squad is sticking out like a like sore thumb. This team can carry the play 5 on 5. Means nothing if they are not putting pucks behind goalies. I get the impression that the hope of this squad is that McKenna pulls a Bedard and decides to win a game his own. I don't think Canada has a player in the top 30 in points. If you saw these stats in the OHL you would be considered a cellar dweller.

 

[wickedwitch]

I'm not sure if dominated is the right word, they scored 0 5v5 goals and the US hit 3 posts. Canada was better for the first half of the 2nd period, but aside from that they weren't that good.

Maybe it would help if they stayed out of the box.

Several Canadian players have mentioned how they "dominated" 5v5 or that they're the best 5v5 team in the tournament. (I assume Cameron told them that if they stayed out of the box, they'd win every game and the players are just parroting that.) But I haven't seen it, at least not since Schaefer's injury. I didn't watch the Germany-Canada game, but against both the US and Latvia, I saw a lot of low-danger shots. As @WhiskeyYerTheDevils mentioned, there was that short period at the beginning of the second, but the US also had periods where they were dangerous 5v5.

They've scored 1 single 5v5 goal since Schaefer's injury and that goal was a huge fluke. Both Sweden and the US have a much better 5v5 goal differential even including the Finland game for Canada. Now some of that may be due to bad luck, but I certainly don't think they're dominant 5v5.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Don Cherry voice ...

"Good Canadian boys"

 

[heynowbababooey]

Nobody baited Pinhead Pinelli. He's an idiot!

Canada played so dirty last night. As a hockey fan, that was really disappointing to see. Was it Cowan who cross checked someone in the back of the head? Canada fans wanna complain about the officials? USA didn't get a call on either of those dirty (and very dangerous!) cheap shots.

 

[Beerz]

My New Years Resolution is to try and not to laugh when I see talk of B,C,D Teams

 

[heynowbababooey]

My New Years Resolution is to try and not to laugh when I see talk of B,C,D Teams

I've seen it on the internet for years. "Canada's talent runs so deep, our B and C teams would still win gold!" then when they lose a few games it turns into "we didn't take our best players!" Which is it?

 

[Fatass]

Several Canadian players have mentioned how they "dominated" 5v5 or that they're the best 5v5 team in the tournament. (I assume Cameron told them that if they stayed out of the box, they'd win every game and the players are just parroting that.) But I haven't seen it, at least not since Schaefer's injury. I didn't watch the Germany-Canada game, but against both the US and Latvia, I saw a lot of low-danger shots. As @WhiskeyYerTheDevils mentioned, there was that short period at the beginning of the second, but the US also had periods where they were dangerous 5v5.

They've scored 1 single 5v5 goal since Schaefer's injury and that goal was a huge fluke. Both Sweden and the US have a much better 5v5 goal differential even including the Finland game for Canada. Now some of that may be due to bad luck, but I certainly don't think they're dominant 5v5.

Are we (Canada) even going to get a medal?