GDT: Canada Vs Switzerland | 12/29 @ 6PM ET | TSN/NHLN

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Canada
Confirmed Tournament Roster

Forwards:
Quinton Byfield, Sudbury Wolves (OHL)
Dylan Cozens, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL)
Kirby Dach, Chicago Blackhawks (NHL)
Dylan Holloway, University of Wisconsin (NCAA)
Peyton Krebs, Winnipeg Ice (WHL)
Connor McMichael, London Knights (OHL)
Dawson Mercer, Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL)
Alex Newhook, Boston College (NCAA)
Jakob Pelletier, Val-d’Or Foreurs (QMJHL)
Cole Perfetti, Saginaw Spirit (OHL)
Jack Quinn, Ottawa 67’s (OHL)
Ryan Suzuki, Saginaw Spirit (OHL)
Philip Tomasino, Oshawa Generals (OHL)
Connor Zary, Kamloops Blazers (WHL)
Defencemen:
Justin Barron, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)
Bowen Byram, Vancouver Giants (WHL)
Jamie Drysdale, Erie Otters (OHL)
Kaiden Guhle, Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)
Thomas Harley, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL)
Kaedan Korczak, Kelowna Rockets (WHL)
Braden Schneider, Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL)
Jordan Spence, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL)
Goaltenders:
Dylan Garand, Kamloops Blazers (WHL)
Taylor Gauthier, Prince George Cougars (WHL)
Devon Levi, Northeastern University (NCAA)

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Switzerland
Confirmed Tournament Roster

Forwards:
Dario Allenspach, EV Zugl
Attilio Biasca, EV Zug
Stefano Bottini, Penticton Vees (BCHL)
Lorenzo Canonica, HC Lugano
Ronny Dahler, SC Bern
Keanu Derungs, EV Zug Academy
Raymond Fust, Chilliwack Chiefs (BCHL)
Valentin Hofer, EV Zug
Gaetan Jobin, Fribourg-Gotteron
Simon Knak, HC Davos
Lionel Marchand, Timra IK (SWE)
Joel Salzgeber, SCL Tigers Langnau
Elvis Schlapfer, EHC Biel
Defencemen:
Inaki Baragano, Lausanne HC
Giancarlo Chanton, SC Langenthal
Noah Delemont, EHC Biel
Cedric Fiedler, Western Michigan University (NCAA)
Bastian Guggenheim, SCL Tigers Langnau
Noah Meier, GCK Lions Kusnacht
Rocco Pezzullo, HC Ambri-Piotta
Alessandro Villa, HC Lugano
Nathan Vouardoux, Lausanne HC
Goaltenders:
Thibault Fatton, HC Lugano
Andri Henauer, SC Bern
Noah Patenaude, Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL)



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I feel like the Swiss are the worst team in this group, but given the result against Slovakia for Canada I don't know how this will go. Hopefully they learned some and can play a little better, but it shouldn't get too out of hand I don't think. I'll say 6-0 Canada
 
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So...are the clowns finally gonna play our best players or are we just gonna get the same gong show of the first two games and waive the white flag before the game started?:surrender



The plan to humiliate opponents by leaning on our worst players hasn't really worked out until now. This one could get ugly if we don't play our top players. And if it wasn't for Fatton, who may very well be the best goalie and is certainly among the best of them, results would have been ugly already.

Don't know. The plan to play bench most of the top guys and expect Fatton to bail the team out is just somehow faulty because Fatton can't score himself:help:

Top guys, with the exception of Knak, hardly played so far and should be well rested by now. Knowing who's behind that bench, I wouldn't bet on them getting more minutes anytime soon though:help:
 
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I don't know what to expect at this point. I'll be happy as long it's a step in the right direction.

7-2 Canada
 
Swiss always (almost always) give us a competitive game. Canada for the W 5-2.

looking forward to the New Year's Eve tilt with the Finns. hopefully the players are more focused on today's game.

Cheers.
 
This will be like 9-0 or double digits. Swiss team not that good.

This would require a goalie change for Switzerland. Different starter or an early mercy pull for Fatton. But watching Canada against Slovakia and how relatively easy of a night Hlavaj had with mostly routine saves, I don't see the Canadians putting 9 behind Fatton. Not gonna happen.
 
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I expect Switzerland to get at least a point in this, just because it would make it more difficult for Germany to get to the quarterfinal.
Eventhough this really should not be a close game and Canada should take this by 3 or 4 goals at least, but it's Canada vs. Switzerland so you never know.
 
I expect Switzerland to get at least a point in this, just because it would make it more difficult for Germany to get to the quarterfinal.
Eventhough this really should not be a close game and Canada should take this by 3 or 4 goals at least, but it's Canada vs. Switzerland so you never know.

We can't get a point vs Canada with this roster if the clowns keep on benching our best players. You're not gonna get points with a team of undrafted players when your best and experienced pro hockey players are sitting on the bench watching some plugs and green kids playing vs the worlds top nations. Our top Center was out injured for both previous games, yet still against Finnland, the clowns found it appropriate to match our worst Center against Lundell use the best Centerman still in the lineup as 3rd line Center. He also didn't get any PP-time whatsoever. Against Slovakia, he was our top Center but they reduced his minutes for the 3rd period:facepalm:

And these are just a few examples. The whole coaching is all over the place. Literally almost couldn't be any worse. It's as if they wanted to lose but in fact, they're just too dumb. Our performances have actually been amazingly good considering the coaching. Surprising. Though without one of the best goalies of the tournament, maybe the best one...we'd have given up significantly more goals:laugh:
 
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We can't get a point vs Canada with this roster if the clowns keep on benching our best players. You're not gonna get points with a team of undrafted players when your best and experienced pro hockey players are sitting on the bench watching some plugs and green kids playing vs the worlds top nations. Without one of the best goalies of the tournament, maybe the best one...we'd have given up significantly more goals. This has been our problem so far and it's gonna continue today. Just that Canada is likely a bit better than Slovakia and Finnland:laugh:

I dont really think it matters much who plays today to be honest the roster is just to weak this year. 2001 has been our worst age group in recent memory and 2002 looks below average too now since Rochette left and a few prospects stagnated. Canada has a team full of first rounders if we are lucky we get a goal on the PP or on an odd man rush. Even with much better rosters in the past we didnt stand a chance against weaker versions of team Canada. Them and the Russians usually give us the most trouble while we can sometimes pull off upsets agaisnt the Swedes and the Finns. Our chances tonight are purely mathematical this has nothing to do with being a pesimist its just the way it is.
 
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I dont really think it matters much who plays today to be honest the roster is just to weak this year. 2001 has been our worst age group in recent memory and 2002 looks below average to now since Rochette left and a few prospects stagnated. Canada has a team full of first rounders if we are lucky we get a goal on the PP or on an odd man rush. Even with much better rosters in the past we didnt stand a chance against weaker versions of team Canada. Them and the Russians usually give us the most trouble while we can sometimes pull off upsets agaisnt the Swedes and the Finns. Our chances tonight are purely mathematical this has nothing to do with being a pesimist its just the way it is.

We didn't always have such good goaltending. With quality goaltending, you can always win games at this tournament...even if your roster isn't strong. Given how poor Canada played vs Slovakia...they had the puck all the time but created hardly any quality chances, there's a chance to get points today if they don't improve from that last outing. For that, we'd need to heavily lean on our best players though. Schläpfer and ideally Salzgeber, maybe even Allenspach are absolutely capable of handling the McMichael and Newhook lines. Knowing our clowns, they'll probably match Canonica vs McMichael which seals the auto loss before the game:surrender

Don't underestimate the power of ice time. Most of our best players, I'm talking of the better 50% of them, so top4 defenders and top6 forwards, could probably handle more than 10 mins of additional ice time compared to what they averaged over the previous games. Our top players may not be superstars but they do have significant pro experience, something that the rest of the team and most opponents don't have. This would absolutely make a huge difference.
 
I’m less concerned with the score and more concerned about how we play.

Especially our forwards, if you’re wearing a Canadian sweater you are expected and demanded to forecheck relentlessly.

No more of this flyby stick checks, staple the D men and their forwards to the boards and ice every time they think about touching the puck in the their zone. The flyby stick checks might be okay in junior, but that shit is not acceptable when you’re playing for Canada. Love the grind and break the other teams will wave after wave. The boards should be rattling every time a puck is in deep. The skill plays will come afterwards once time and space are created by a relentless forecheck.

Play the proper Canadian Way and keep getting better. After Switzerland the games get real, time to build the right habits.

Our D need to play exactly how they did last game, they were tenacious defensively. Good physicality, gap control, and puck movement from them. Keep it up.

Go Canada Go!!
 
We didn't always have such good goaltending. With quality goaltending, you can always win games at this tournament...even if your roster isn't strong. Given how poor Canada played vs Slovakia...they had the puck all the time but created hardly any quality chances, there's a chance to get points today if they don't improve from that last outing. For that, we'd need to heavily lean on our best players though. Schläpfer and ideally Salzgeber, maybe even Allenspach are absolutely capable of handling the McMichael and Newhook lines. Knowing our clowns, they'll probably match Canonica vs McMichael which seals the auto loss before the game:surrender

Don't underestimate the power of ice time. Most of our best players, I'm talking of the better 50% of them, so top4 defenders and top6 forwards, could probably handle more than 10 mins of additional ice time compared to what they averaged over the previous games. Our top players may not be superstars but they do have significant pro experience, something that the rest of the team and most opponents don't have. This would absolutely make a huge difference.

Goaltending can only take you so far. There are always gonna be goals where even the best goaltender is powerless. Experience with this matchup shows that if you cant score at least two or three goals agaisnt them on a good day you wont stand a chance and I dont think this roster is able to do that. This would at the very least require a very good power play wich we dont have. Yes Canada didnt look great agaisnt Slovakia but they were at no point of the game in danger to give up a point.

I also think you are overestimating the pro experience our players have. Exept Knak and Pezullo and maybe Allenspach most are bottom six players in the SL with one or two five minute games in the NLA. Its not like this gives them a significant edge over the best players of the CHL wich are de facto a pro leagues (without decent salaries) as well. Lots of our players even played more in the u20 league than with the pros this year wich is nowhere near the CHL level.
 
Switzerland is going to have big troubles ahead. Still I think they are going to put up a good fight. 5-1 for Canada.
 
Goaltending can only take you so far. There are always gonna be goals where even the best goaltender is powerless. Experience with this matchup shows that if you cant score at least two or three goals agaisnt them on a good day you wont stand a chance and I dont think this roster is able to do that. This would at the very least require a very good power play wich we dont have. Yes Canada didnt look great agaisnt Slovakia but they were at no point of the game in danger to give up a point.

I also think you are overestimating the pro experience our players have. Exept Knak and Pezullo and maybe Allenspach most are bottom six players in the SL with one or two five minute games in the NLA. Its not like this gives them a significant edge over the best players of the CHL wich are de facto a pro leagues (without decent salaries) as well. Lots of our players even played more in the u20 league than with the pros this year wich is nowhere near the CHL level.

Don't think that is true. Slovakia actually had grade a scoring chances late.

And I disagree. Many guys do have significant pro experience. The problem is that they're not getting enough minutes or the right linemates to actually do something. Most of them don't even get PP-time. Jobin was excellent a year ago. The entire tournament. He was a difference maker. This year he gets 8mins on the 4th line with plugs. That sort of coaching is beyond horrible.
 
The Swiss will play us hard as always but this looks to me like one of their weakest teams in quite some time. If it was as good as some of their teams I have seen in the past they would give Canada fits today as We don't have our shit together at all yet but this doesn't appear to be one of those teams from the Swiss. Canada should win comfortably but I hope they start to play better offensively, they have look challenged that way big time.
 
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I’m less concerned with the score and more concerned about how we play.

Especially our forwards, if you’re wearing a Canadian sweater you are expected and demanded to forecheck relentlessly.

No more of this flyby stick checks, staple the D men and their forwards to the boards and ice every time they think about touching the puck in the their zone. The flyby stick checks might be okay in junior, but that shit is not acceptable when you’re playing for Canada. Love the grind and break the other teams will wave after wave. The boards should be rattling every time a puck is in deep. The skill plays will come afterwards once time and space are created by a relentless forecheck.

Play the proper Canadian Way and keep getting better. After Switzerland the games get real, time to build the right habits.

Our D need to play exactly how they did last game, they were tenacious defensively. Good physicality, gap control, and puck movement from them. Keep it up.

Go Canada Go!!

This. Play hard. Play smart. Attention to detail.
 
Don't think that is true. Slovakia actually had grade a scoring chances late.

And I disagree. Many guys do have significant pro experience. The problem is that they're not getting enough minutes or the right linemates to actually do something. Most of them don't even get PP-time. Jobin was excellent a year ago. The entire tournament. He was a difference maker. This year he gets 8mins on the 4th line with plugs. That sort of coaching is beyond horrible.

Ok I must admit I havent seen the third peroid of that game. So maybe Slovakia could have gotten a point, I still dont see them winning the overtime against Canadas skill. I also beleive we have overall less talent than the Slovak on the team so thats that. Also what does significant pro experience mean to you? 15 Games with a low amount of ice time in the SL? I do agree with you that players like Jobin. Schläpfer, Marchand etc. should see more ice time, I just dont think that improves our chances to take something away from this game by that much. Maybe we score a goal more but thats about it.
 
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The Swiss will have Nino Niederreiter today. You're allowed one age exception.
5-4 Swiss
 

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