Canada use soviet style better than soviets?

[Peanut]

Not to nitpick. But although hockey is part of the Canadian identity, it's not what the world knows you by. Most of the globe doesn't know a thing about hockey let alone that Canada is good at it.

Thats pretty fair!

 

[Atas2000]

Some guy said that modern canada play in soviet style but only faster in two times and without skating in home zone
This is true?

No, they are not even close. They are good at using their canadian style though. I don't know how old you are, but people who actually watched soviet teams would probably agree with me on that one.

Modern day Team Canada lacks the skills needed to play that game. The "weakness" of that soviet style is that the players involved must be thoroughly trained in that system. You can't learn to play it as a grown up, no matter how good you are.

 

[Mitts]

Guess you've never seen a GSP fight.

Lmao, damn you !

 

[gwh]

I think they've integrated some of the possession game that the USSR used, but for the most part, they still play a traditional North American grinding cycle game.

Which is exactly the soviet style. (also look at 6:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jeTuWHAcRM

NA style in that period was dump and chase. Shoot of the rush. Straight to goal in every situation. If you have no shot, shoot anyway and grind rebounds.
Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQKe_Kq0Ps

 

[gwh]

Some guy said that modern canada play in soviet style but only faster in two times and without skating in home zone
This is true?

I think the current style is a mix between old Canadian and the soviet possession cycle dominance. We get the best of both styles, because both of them are needed to get wins.

From Canada: Hits, forecheck, padshots to rebounds, always shoot when you get to slot. Dump on line changes. Force straight to the slot, make your own opportunity. Fast pace.

From old soviet: Gutter cycle. Lateral powerplay passing on 5v5. Never give up the puck for free. Try to pass into slot. Pass until good % shot appears.

Only missing bit is the backward pass all the way back to the behind own goal to keep the puck on the line changes. (Great)

We also see a lot less dump and chase (Great)

 

[sdf]

Whoever thinks Canada plays something called "Soviet style" ought to watch some old recordings first. Nothing, especially today, compares to how the Soviets played.

I thought that soviet style is just nice passing play

 

[EP40 AKA Lil Wayne]

Soviet-style of hockey is a beautiful but it's just called hockey now a days, if have the skill you cycle the puck and keep the possession. For me, Canadian style was more dump and chase and playing dirty, I did find that type of hockey fun to watch. These styles are more blended now and depending on the skills of the team and the opponent.

Also, I call BS on that heart and soul thing, for sure the canadian society eat, breath and ***** hockey like no other society, this I know from living there for a year. However, players, no matter where they are from, are professional and do what they can to win. For some it means playing on the edge, others taking a lot of shots, for some it means not taking dumb penalties, etc etc.

 

[Stubu]

Heart and soul.

You have this all over your posts. Like someone said, laying it pretty thick, aren't you?

Nothing wrong with youthful enthusiasm but I suppose the audience on this site expects more than national-romantic notions and grandeur.

Poutine for thought anyway.

Aw what the heck, keep it coming.

 

[snipes]

You have this all over your posts. Like someone said, laying it pretty thick, aren't you?

Nothing wrong with youthful enthusiasm but I suppose the audience on this site expects more than national-romantic notions and grandeur.

Poutine for thought anyway.

Aw what the heck, keep it coming.

It's obviously grandeur. Never said the love of hockey was entirely rational .

But you know what, I will always cheer for the Canadian national team. Hockey does mean that much, and the way we are taught the game is to fight until the very end. Laugh all you want, it's done us well over the years.

 

[Big Phil]

It's more like the old Montreal Canadiens style than anything else. Dependable two way centres, defencemen who can effectively into the play at appropriate times, good skaters, elite goaltending. Montreal did that for decades. Same model as Montreal from the 1950s through the 1970s. Canada shoots too much and forechecks too much to be using the Soviet style, though of course there are similarities.

First thing I was thinking about as well. The dynasty Habs. So, similar to the well oiled machine of the old Soviet teams. An all around dominant performance at all parts of the ice. We'll see if that happens in 2016.

 

[Riddum]

Canada has the style of no style

 

[Chet Manley]

It's obviously grandeur. Never said the love of hockey was entirely rational .

But you know what, I will always cheer for the Canadian national team. Hockey does mean that much, and the way we are taught the game is to fight until the very end. Laugh all you want, it's done us well over the years.

I hear this saying all the time and have no idea what people mean by it. If you're referring to "down but never out" that could just be a byproduct of always being a good enough team to overcome a deficit.(and knowing it) If meaning to overcome adversity with effort, it implies beating another team which has better players which is rare for Team Canada.

Clutch play probably applies to many Canadian players, performing at their best under difficult circumstance or high pressure, but that's more mental than effort.

IMO over the last decade Team Finland has shown up every game and play as a team better than the sum of their parts. Consistent effort. Your comments in this thread could arguably apply more to them than Team Canada.

Not calling you out, just curious what you mean.

 

[snipes]

I hear this saying all the time and have no idea what people mean by it. If you're referring to "down but never out" that could just be a byproduct of always being a good enough team to overcome a deficit.(and knowing it) If meaning to overcome adversity with effort, it implies beating another team which has better players which is rare for Team Canada.

Clutch play probably applies to many Canadian players, performing at their best under difficult circumstance or high pressure, but that's more mental than effort.

IMO over the last decade Team Finland has shown up every game and play as a team better than the sum of their parts. Consistent effort. Your comments in this thread could arguably apply more to them than Team Canada.

Not calling you out, just curious what you mean.

Just continual effort and when you're down a goal or two you don't fold the tent. Keep fighting and elevate your game even further. You see some other teams just fold or give up when the chips are down.

Maybe clutch applies like you said, it's bringing your best effort when it's needed the most. It's believing you can always come back in a game no matter what. It's definitely a mental thing, I don't know. It's just the Canadian Way.

 

[jj cale]

Canada use Canadian style)

That is pretty much what we do.

We needed to get better, the soviets across the bar were much better skill players then we were and it showed, we had a terrible time even keeping up with them.

We had to find a way of playing that matched their skill but gave nothing away with the little things in hockey games that were always our bread and butter.

I think we did that.

 

[TheBigThree]

No, but they adapt really well to whatever style is played against them.

 

[Mr Hockey*]

Some guy said that modern canada play in soviet style but only faster in two times and without skating in home zone
This is true?

There is some truth to this I think, I believe the old soviets teams were very systematic and played in 5 man units, similar to a babcock system.

 

[Chimpradamus]

For those of you who have no clue what you're talking about, here's a documentary about Soviet hockey.



Forwards and defensemen always played together in units of five. There was tons of emphasis on cycling and outmaneuvering the opponent. Everyone on their unit knew eachother inside out. They practiced alot more than NHL teams have ever done. That's how you get better, not by mostly playing tons of games. They basically never gave the puck over or dumped the puck.

There was tons of creativity on the ice, a creativity that the game today can only dream about. Those who watched the russian five in Detroit know what Soviet hockey was about.

Canada using the Soviet style better than the Soviets did? No, not even remotely close. Soviet hockey is basically dead in hockey today. Most imagination and creativity in the players have been killed by systems.

 

[jw2]

I call the Canadians style "hockey".

 

[lakai17]

The Red Wings used that style with Bowman more actually but they could with Lidstrom, Fedorov and the boys.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

Sisu in your language is similar to heart and soul for Canadians.

I respect the Finnish fighting spirit and see the same never quit attitude that Canadians have.

All good athletes have a 'never quit' attitude, regardless of country.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

For those of you who have no clue what you're talking about, here's a documentary about Soviet hockey.



Forwards and defensemen always played together in units of five. There was tons of emphasis on cycling and outmaneuvering the opponent. Everyone on their unit knew eachother inside out. They practiced alot more than NHL teams have ever done. That's how you get better, not by mostly playing tons of games. They basically never gave the puck over or dumped the puck.

There was tons of creativity on the ice, a creativity that the game today can only dream about. Those who watched the russian five in Detroit know what Soviet hockey was about.

Canada using the Soviet style better than the Soviets did? No, not even remotely close. Soviet hockey is basically dead in hockey today. Most imagination and creativity in the players have been killed by systems.

Yeah, the Soviet style was beautiful, the Five might've been the greatest line to every play together.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

Team Russia these days tries to play the Soviet style, but they're just not as well 'oiled' together as the old Soviet teams, despite being of a comparable individual skill level.

 

[albator71]

Heart and soul. Hockey is our game. It is who we are.

Canadians will fight until the very end with everything we have. Hockey is more than a game for us.

But we could say the exact same thing about the Finland also

 

[BlitzSnipe]

But we could say the exact same thing about the Finland also

and about Russia and any of the main hockey nations .

 

[5 4 Fighting]

Featherweight to Heavyweight. The Prodigy didn't back down.

Baby J fought Machida at 204- so technically, Light Heavyweight where Lyoto became UFC champ.
While BJ was the Lightweight champ.