Yeah the best player from Canada is belarusian from the begining if im not wrong?
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Yeah the best player from Canada is belarusian from the begining if im not wrong?
Preisst*
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We're more concerned with winning. Keep on playing the game the way you think it should be. I don't want you guys to change a thing. We'll keep winning Gold Medals.....LOL
It's still a big difference... lets say William Nylander would not respecet him if he cheered on Finland against Canada? he is a Canadian born Swede dose he have an a obligation to cheer for team Canada? If they doent face Sweden? Just because he is born there and got canadian citizenship.
Canuck21t
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I'm an immigrant myself who wasn't even born in Canada and I really don't understand this reasoning. Fine if Canada has many people who came from other countries, but we're now all part of this particular country called Canada and if I love Canada, I should root for my national team, not a team that has nothing to do with me.
To me that means you're not THAT proud of Canada after all. And this does not just apply to hockey.
You do what you want to do, we live in a free country, but expect people to find it odd and I do find it odd.
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Well, this is the best example how to learn from crisis. I wish czech hockey representatives learn from it instead of looking for excuses and giving up to be dominant force. Canada came back triple stronger, it takes time, but you just picking fruits from it since 2010. Canadian players remain their typical characteristics + added so much skills, basically they attract the best from each hockey nation. Right now I dont see any advantage in other teams compare to team Canada. Thats pretty immpressive. The other hockey countries have to work to even match Canada. Still some of them are capable. Finnland should be closest now. They have been constantly picking medals and no one in NA still didnt take them seriously. I am curious what they can do when they are considered to be even good on paper now
Canuck21t
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William Nylander should root for the country he feels he belongs to, in this case Sweden? If he considers himself Sweidish, then by all means root for Finland agasint Canada, that's not the same situation at all. I take issue when Canadian citizens root for another country whom they has no connection whatsoever.
Preisst*
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Guess you didn't watch the last Olympics.
As well you should have been. Only a Canadian would cheer against their own country, and then we have a bunch of sore losers trying to pretend we are a bunch of ogres. It's deliciously hilarious.
William is canadian since he is born there and have canadian citizenship so according to what you saying he should chefer for Canada if they dont play against Sweden because he dont have connections to the other counterys...
Or whats make leta say Crosby more of an Canadian than Nylander?
Canuck21t
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Sigh. You're really stretching it. William may have Canadian citizenship but it doesn't mean he feels Canadian if he's also Swedish. What I'm talking about is someone who says he is a Canadian (meaning he feels Canadian), yet root for a different country that he has no connection with. Let's say your neighbough who is Swedish born and raised and so was his parents. Would you think it's normal if he roots for the USA instead just because he feels like it?
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Uncle Scrooge
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Not the same thing like i told you before... but yes i would think its odd to cheer for USA just as i think its wierd for people in Sweden to cheer for football clubs around the Europe and not cheer on their local team they actually can go and watch... the same goes for them who cheering for some nhl teams.
Avocado Coolranch
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I think this is a very strange mindset. You have many people cheering for sports teams that they do not have any relation to all the time. Look at football... I know Canadians who are fans of Team Germany but do not have German descent. Usually because of the players they follow play for Team Germany or they just like the way Team Germany plays.
Its like saying only Winnipeggers should only cheer for the Winnipeg Jets yet you see all the time, fans of the opposition that are Winnipeggers. Honestly nothing wrong with that. People who cheer for the opposition usually do that because they like the players of that team. Not because they are not proud of their city/nation. A sports team does not define/represent a nation. Its the people in them, the culture, etc.
Uncle Scrooge
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I was more so referring to the WHC. They've obviously been great at the Olympics recently.
For a team like Canada they've been eliminated far too many times in the QF's.
Anyway my point was: i don't think there's much of a difference whether you have a top 6 guy playing on the 4th line/PK vs a 3rd liner who does it every single game for his NHL club. And so i think Canada could build multiple teams capable of beating their A-team (meaning the 23 best players). You don't need to have star players on your bottom lines to be a contender in the Olympics. As long as you have a great team that's enough.
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Evil Doctor
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The Germany example doesn't really work that well because Canada isn't close to competitive in soccer so cheering for another team that actually participates in big tournaments makes sense. I guess if Canada and Germany were to play a game and they still cheered for Germany than yes they would be d-bags but cheering for Germany when they basically have nothing to do with Canadian soccer in terms or being in the same tournaments or even playing each other is much different than cheering for Finland who is a rival to Canada in every single hockey tournament out there that matters.
Canuck21t
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My neighbour example is not the situation as your example of William? Of course it's not, that's what I've been trying to make you understand all along. Your William example is completely different from the case of JustBeCool who's situation is more similar to my example of the neighbour.
That's because Canada sucks in football and is never there at the World Cup, so it's normal if some would root another team. But if Canada is a force in football and is present at the World Cup and some Canadians still root for Germany, then there's a problem there.
Professional teams are completely a different matter. First, it's basically just another business organization located in a city where people choose to follow and the players are most probably from elsewhere and not Winnipegers. A national team represents the country and we're supposed to identify with it in a different way. At least that's how most people see things but hey, if you're not that nationalistic, you're allowed to, just don't expect others to find that normal.
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Not that i was thinking about but okey! You said you was an imigrater yourself are you from an European country yourself?
Sweden and Canada is two different counterys with different history... like Canada and rest of the Europe so compare it like that is not "fair"
JackSlater
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Yes Canada is the top hockey country. It has nothing to do with World Championship results though. Better to win than tournament than to lose it though. Happy to see Finland coming along and developing more talent than ever before.
Canuck21t
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I'm not from Europe and I don't see why it would be different for an immigrant country like Canada. If a Canadian has Swedish ancestry, it is normal that the person might root for Team Sweden, but if a Canadian has no connection whatsoever to Sweden and decides to root for Sweden, then I find that not normal and I don't see how it suddenly makes that situation OK just because Canada is an immigrant country. Your example of William Nylander does in no way support the argument that the same logic should not apply to a new country with immigrants.
Ah but based on our own (Hockey Canada) experiences, it does make a difference. When we bring our best, we can rotate all 4 lines equally and can create almost equal pressure. The best can change their role and when asked to pressure, they would be able to do so. It wouldn't be possible if the role players on our 3rd and 4th line could not pressure to the opposing zone as effectively. The facts show that we have better results when we go with our best instead of going by roles.
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Preisst*
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Every Canadian player played a solid robust complete two way game. Virtually every one of them was the offensive spark of their club team. To suggest that they can't or wouldn't be able to play lower roles is folly as they just all did in the last Olympics. Basic stuff.
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Yup. Their fighting spirit reminds me of Canadians. I like the Danes ever since the 2015 WJC but that's more of a little brother/underdog love.
I have so much respect for Finnish hockey.
