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World Cup: Canada 4 Nations Tournament 2025 Roster Talk

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NyQuil said:
If the outcome is that the US has a much more entertaining, skilled, better and more marketable player in the game, it's hard to really fault their decision-making.

What is the actual goal of this tournament? To showcase the world's best players against one another?

All of these silly substitution rules just get in the way of the overall objective.

The downside is that, unlike everyone else on the ice, Hughes will not have practiced or played with the team. So there's a little risk there, a risk I'm sure the US would love to take on if they could.
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I do not disagree. I'm more just stating that the NHL (and any other org) arrives at a mature set of rules typically through teams exploiting loopholes (i.e., NHL salary cap rules). They didn't really think of a few items for the 4 Nations and it results in gray areas.

To extend your thought experiment on entertainment being the primary factor, Canada should be able to call in Wilson if he's healthy and able to make it to Boston. It would be good for the fans since the opening set of fights are what drove ratings on Saturday and the buzz afterwards.
 
Frank the Tank said:
To extend your thought experiment on entertainment being the primary factor, Canada should be able to call in Wilson if he's healthy and able to make it to Boston. It would be good for the fans since the opening set of fights are what drove ratings on Saturday and the buzz afterwards.
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What's interesting is that Canada used to have a bit of a habit of parachuting guys into Team Canada at the World Championships during the tournament (in the 80s and 90s IIRC) as more and more players became available due to playoff eliminations.

They changed that policy early in the 2000s IIRC because it's not really fair for those guys who volunteered to go over there right after the NHL season was over and play in all of the round-robin games.

Competitively as well, it could screw up your chemistry, lines, powerplay units etc.

There's still the odd guy who comes over but for the most part, the line-ups are static once they are named.

Just a long-winded way of saying, based on what I know about Team Canada, I can't see them doing this even if they could. (unless it was McDavid or something)
 
NyQuil said:
Also more than Bedard and Scheifele.
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There were a lot of opinions that we needed more defensive players than secondary scoring, and the way I'm seeing it, we're pretty much solely dependant on 97, 29 and 87 to score. They probably could have used the leading Canadian goal scorer to provide some much needed secondary scoring.

Oh well. It doesn't matter at this point. Here's to hoping Cirelli, Hagel, Jarvis et al find their games and are a big part of Thursday's win.
 
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Tasty Biscuits said:
Ah, the ol' Doc Ellis special.
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LOL .. I dont think anyone got this reference but well done. From the Burgh no less, excellent.
 
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cneely said:
There were a lot of opinions that we needed more defensive players than secondary scoring, and the way I'm seeing it, we're pretty much solely dependant on 97, 29 and 87 to score. They probably could have used the leading Canadian goal scorer to provide some much needed secondary scoring.

Oh well. It doesn't matter at this point. Here's to hoping Cirelli, Hagel, Jarvis et al find their games and are a big part of Thursday's win.
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I was just teasing.

But you're right in that there's a bit of a recent trend where a Team Canada doesn't score enough goals and people start asking questions about the lack of available offensive firepower on the team.

In general I tend to agree with you and the premise that best-on-best offensive players are generally skilled and talented enough to play defence if they're asked to do so, and if a goal does need to be scored, you don't necessarily have to count shifts until the McDavid or MacKinnon line comes out again.
 
Since there is nothing else to talk about, what should I have for dinner :

1) Vietnamese Summer Rolls
2) Pad Thai
3) Pancakes
4) Won Tons in Hot And Sour Soup
5) Rueben Sandwiches from Arby's

????
 
ORRFForever said:
Since there is nothing else to talk about, what should I have for dinner :

1) Vietnamese Summer Rolls
2) Pad Thai
3) Pancakes
4) Won Tons in Hot And Sour Soup
5) Rueben Sandwiches from Arby's

????
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NO ONE seems to care that I'm starving so...

Chocolate chip pancakes it is. :thumbu:
 
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ORRFForever said:
NO ONE seems to care that I'm starving so...

Chocolate chip pancakes it is. :thumbu:
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What would you have had, @jj cale ?

4 of the 5 options required I leave the house and go into the cold dark world. Pancakes were an easy option and I had not had them in a while.

And, in case anyone is wondering, they were delicious - covered in what used to be called Aunt Jemima syrup.
 
ORRFForever said:
What would you have had, @jj cale ?

4 of the 5 options required I leave the house and go into the cold dark world. Pancakes were an easy option and I had not had them in a while.

And, in case anyone is wondering, the were delicious - covered in what used to be call Aunt Jemima syrup.
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probably pad thai


But on thursday the U.S is on the menu.
 
ORRFForever said:
What would you have had, @jj cale ?

4 of the 5 options required I leave the house and go into the cold dark world. Pancakes were an easy option and I had not had them in a while.

And, in case anyone is wondering, they were delicious - covered in what used to be call Aunt Jemima syrup.
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I'm willing to bet almost all of those options could have been delivered to you. You just copped out because you wanted pancakes all along....so biased.
 
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HFpapi said:
People happy Mcavoy is out or bitter that Hughes is allowed back in are sad.

We aren't the hockey nation we claim to be if we want anything less than their absolute best vs ours.

I hope they all show up healthy so we can beat the best they have to offer in Boston.
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They can play anyone they want.
 
Grifter3511 said:
I'm willing to bet almost all of those options could have been delivered to you. You just copped out because you wanted pancakes all along....so biased.
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LOL!

I am too old to have things delivered. I come from a generation where if you wanted take out, you got it yourself - along with walking 5 miles to school. The pancakes were a nice treat, though, and, you are probably right, I likely wanted them all along. :)
 
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Something that Canada had in the 2010s and is badly missing now is one of those legitimate first line Selke calibre centres. During the 2010s there was Toews, Bergeron, then eventually O'Reilly and Couturier likely by the 2018 Olympics had that tournament featured NHLers. A player in that mold would be a huge asset to this team.
 
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