Post-Game Talk: Can you say "anti-climatic?" Jets start strong then stumble to a 4-1 loss to the Sens

[Romang67]

Awful, bad, suckish, the worst, horrible, pathetic, embarrasing.

Ok, what was good?

Enström was good, he looked good defensively, stopping Spezza several times, using his long stick well, and he looked good on the PP.
Buff was good, he looked dominant offensively at times, and only allowed one 2 on 1.
Burmi, Antro and Poni looked good, they did exactly what we wanted them to, except that they didn't score. They were good defensively, they played a good possession game in the offensive zone.
Wellwood looked ok, didn't do anything bad, and made a couple of good offensive plays
...
And yeah, that's pretty much it.

What was ok?
Little looked good in the beggining, but then he disappeared.
Jokinen tried, but Kane is a hard player to play with, and it showed.
Our fourth line didn't look bad.

What was bad?
Postmas defensive game.
Wheeler looked lost.
Ladd didn't look good offensively, and took an incredibly bad penalty that killed the game.
Stuart was completely invisible, except when he lost the puck so Neil could put it in the net. He's not supposed to be invisible, but he was today.
Hainsey didn't look good.
Pavs can't give up the fourth goal. The first goal was a bit weak too.

What was awful?
Kane! He's supposed to be so much better than this. He didn't look fast, he couldn't hold on to the puck, he didn't pass well.
Clitsome. Yeah... Redmond next game?

 

[Lynk]

We can keep chirping the defense all night but we're not going to win many games scoring 1 PP goal out of 6 attempts.

 

[Warhead77]

Man that just sucked.

 

[Lynk]

Ah well, there's always next years opener!

 

[sipowicz]

Guys ragging on Scheff a little unwarranted, he wasn`t bad.

Clitsome looked worse than Postma neither good,

Pavs looked pretty rusty.

High flyers Kane and Wheeler looked grounded.

USSR line and Joki started strong and seemed to peter out.

Buff-Enstrom best Jets

 

[Gnova]

Postma and Clitsome weren't great in the game but you can't win if you don't score goals.

Only goal of the game is scored by a D man on a PP. need to be better than that.

 

[meedle]

We can keep chirping the defense all night but we're not going to win many games scoring 1 PP goal out of 6 attempts.

Won't matter how many goals you score when you have a sv% .891.

 

[Hammer Slammer]

We can keep chirping the defense all night but we're not going to win many games scoring 1 PP goal out of 6 attempts.

That's fair, but it would've been a 2-1 game late without the 2 huge defensive mistakes. And a tie game if Pavs had stopped the softie.

 

[Huffer]

Good:
Eastern Bloc Line
Enstrom - Byfuglien

OK:
LLW (although some moments...)
Scheifele

Not Noticeable (neither good nor bad):
Wellwood
Hainsey
Slater-Thor

Not good:
Kane - Jokinen
Stuart

Noticeable in a bad way:
Pavelec
Clitsome-Postma

I think this is pretty much it.

Really liked Buff's game today. And for all the angst earlier, I thought that Burmi looked good as well.

We are going to need much more from our top two lines though if we have a shot at winning games. And we're going to need a second and third pair of defensemen and a goalie as well.

Some decent efforts overall. Hope the team can gel quickly or we could be 0-4 before someone can say Jack Robinson.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Easy to blame our goaltending and defense, but we still did not create near enough scoring chances imo. LLW didn't look good at all, Kane-Jokinen-Wellwood did nothing, 3rd and 4th lines were our best this afternoon.

Buff was a beast, Enstrom was solid, Stuart was looking good but had a bonehead play on the 2nd goal, Postma showed flashes of the offense we all hear about, but was not good enough defensively, Clitsome was awful, Hainsey was meh.

Pavs was not good, I don't think he lost us the games like it seems some of the posters do, but he will need to be a lot better if we want a shot at the playoffs.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Well, as much as I'd like to stay up for the Leafs vs Habs game, I work tonight so I'm going back to bed.

 

[Hammer Slammer]

Guys ragging on Scheff a little unwarranted, he wasn`t bad.

I enjoyed his little juke around Karlsson.

 

[veganhunter]

The Good:

- Jokinen comes exactly as advertised. His puck poise and speed are fantastic, although I really don’t think Kane belongs on this line.

- Enstrom and Byfuglien are picking up where they left off. Two very strong defensemen, and one of the best pairings in the league.

- The Ponikarovsky-Burmistrov-Antropov line was incredible. By far the best line on the team. Hustle, defensive skill and agitation all in one.

- The team played an excellent first ten minutes.

The Bad:

- Noel broke up the PBA line in the third. Found that very questionable as they were the only line creating any chances.

- Pavelec allowed two very soft goals. In fact, none of the goals against were particularly good.

- Hainsey and Stuart were bad. Not the worst pairing, but they were bad.

- Blake Wheeler wasn’t himself. He played with a fire last year that I didn’t see at all tonight.

The Ugly:

- Scheifele’s skating is terrible. He needs to be returned to juniors to work on that. He may need to spend next year in St. John’s. There’s no point in rushing him. This team is not a serious contender.

- The Postma-Clitsome pairing was particularly brutal. This goes to show how weak our defensive depth is. Really should have kept Kulda around.

Overall:

After losing the opener, we could be very much in trouble if Bogosian isn’t back soon. Our glaring weakness is on defense. Past Enstrom and Byfuglien, I don’t feel comfortable with anyone else on the ice. Ladd, Wheeler and Kane MUST play better, or we will stand no chance at making the playoffs. As for goaltending…I won’t comment beyond saying that Montoya needs to be ready for a lot of playing time.

With all that said, I’m happy to have hockey back, and I’m glad to be able to complain about the team’s play, rather than about business meetings and greedy rich people.

GO JETS GO!

I think his skating in terms of speed and acceleration looked pretty decent, his balance on the other hand....wow...that being said to me he was one of our most dangerous offensive players today (playing against 3rd and 4th liners so I guess take that with a grain of salt) but I'd really like to give him a shot in the top 6 and see what he can do I really think he could contribute this year.

 

[meedle]

If we are not going to be a playoff team, we need to play postma, redmond and Scheifele on the 2nd line to see what you have got all year.

 

[Gnova]

Guys ragging on Scheff a little unwarranted, he wasn`t bad.

I agree.
Yeah he goes down easily and needs to improve his skating but he is working hard and can work on his game with the Jets just as easily as he can in Barrie.

 

[sully1410]

I'm just going to say it: I am sick of seeing Dancing Gabe in every b roll of Winnipeg's sporting events. We get it.

You mean the biggest scam artist in Winnipeg Sporting history? That guy?

How is it that he comes by seasons tickets to everything?

I've heard that he is mentally handicapped...but I had classes with the guy in university. He's nothing of the sort.

 

[garret9]

Hey guys guess what:
Ottawa give aways: 8
Winnipeg give aways: 19

That right there is not Pav's fault.
Pav did play ****** but that is terrible right there.

 

[meedle]

The giveaways is not news. It's one reason why we have the record we had last year.

 

[Heldig]

Not a fan of Kane's game. Very one dimensional. A terrible linemate for Jokinen.

Overall our talent level was not on par with Ottawa.

Other than Enstrom and Buff the D looked pretty poor.

 

[sipowicz]

The giveaways is not news. It's one reason why we have the record we had last year.

Clitsome alone should get a Pizza Pizza franchise for his poor performance

 

[Puckschmuck*]

Ottawa is a bad team and we should have beaten them. No excuses. Piss me right off.

 

[Avocado Coolranch]

first line: llw were invisible.
second line: kjw no chem.
third line: pba beast.
fourth line: here and there, everywhere?

first d pair: enstrom and buff, animals.
second d pair: meh
third d pair: omigoodness gracious, just badddd.

goalie: pav = soft

those were my post game thoughts.

 

[sipowicz]

Not a fan of Kane's game. Very one dimensional. A terrible linemate for Jokinen.

Overall our talent level was not on par with Ottawa.

Other than Enstrom and Buff the D looked pretty poor.

Ideally:

Buff-Enstrom

Bogo-UNKNOWN

Stuart Hainsey

7th UNKNOWN

 

[EvilCoop]

Bandwagon Time...

(What? I have family in Toronto.)

 

[sully1410]

Pavs was AWFUL! God those goals by Turris and Karlsson he should of had, could have kept the Jets in it and maybe swung the momentum.

I thought Jokinen was pretty good tonight. Granted he and Kane didn't hook up like we all wanted them to...but its the first game. I'm sure results will come with time. I thought Wellwood worked his little tale off, and looked to be better then ever. Buff has a good commitment to actual D now which is good.

All in all...the D outside of Toby and Buff need to shape up and if they could capitalize on the PP this game would have been in the bag by the end of the first.

I'm bummed, but the possession game was much better. The pp needs work. Nothing that wont get fixed in 48games.