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This team s failure to compete against non playoff teams could and not burying Tampa for home ice may be deadly for Keefe and dubas
The leafs should actually be favourites against Tampa
But somehow I can see ,soft goals ,bone head justin Holliday giveaways, and Morgan Reilly doing absolutely nothing
This team just lacks hunger to win a cup
Maybe a round but it's an expensive group that may 1 a round every five years
 
TMLBlueandWhite said:
Laugh all you want.

If you find it a laughing matter that your favorite team, which should be THE franchise team of the NHL, is the laughing stock of the entire hockey universe, then go ahead... Laugh it up.

I guarantee ML$E is laughing all the way to the bank.

All the fans hard earned money spent on merchandise and tickets to support billionaire's paying millionaires to play a game for a living.

Pretty good gimmick if you can get in on it.

It's so funny our hometown team, the TORONTO Maple Leafs, "a PUBLIC TRUST with the greatest fan base in the world" is an embarrassment for setting a record in all professional sports: six consecutive losses in the first round of the postseason.

And we're paying for it all.

Yeah... It is pretty funny when you think about it.
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You have reading comprehensions issues my friend. I was laughing not at the team, but at your ridiculous post. Here, I copy/pasted what I said again for you, read it nice and slow and maybe you'll understand my meaning:

This post of yours made me laugh like I haven't laughed in some time, thanks buddy.
 
TMLBlueandWhite said:
Laugh all you want.

If you find it a laughing matter that your favorite team, which should be THE franchise team of the NHL, is the laughing stock of the entire hockey universe, then go ahead... Laugh it up.

I guarantee ML$E is laughing all the way to the bank.

All the fans hard earned money spent on merchandise and tickets to support billionaire's paying millionaires to play a game for a living.

Pretty good gimmick if you can get in on it.

It's so funny our hometown team, the TORONTO Maple Leafs, "a PUBLIC TRUST with the greatest fan base in the world" is an embarrassment for setting a record in all professional sports: six consecutive losses in the first round of the postseason.

And we're paying for it all.

Yeah... It is pretty funny when you think about it.
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Starting to wonder if you a Leaf fan at all.

Or perhaps you are drunk when you post?
 
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TMLBlueandWhite said:
I have a very difficult time believing the same team that lost to Tampa last year has improved enough around the edges to beat Tampa this year.

It's the same team. With the same problems. Heading straight for the same results.

Stamkos punches Tavares in the head and what is the response? Nothing. The backs of five guys skating towards the bench and laughing it off.

Cause getting punched in the head is so funny.

The incremental improvements at the bottom of the roster aren't enough. Tampa's core is superior to the Leafs and has been for years. Adding depth players like O'Reilly and McCabe are great for a team that is a true contender.

Which the Leafs aren't.

This franchise is in a crisis. Losing against Tampa again will only expose it to a wider audience. As a fan, I'm concerned about the outlook for my favorite team.

Both the present and the future appear concerning.
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Be careful there, speaking your mind may get you tossed...only pro comments accepted in this chat. membership comes with only Leaf blue shaded glasses, a bottle of your favorite poison, and a book of reasons why they lost title 'Refs screwed us or we would have 20 stanley cups since 1967'.
 
thusk said:
Production at 5v5 by tampa core
Stamkos 2.10 pts/69
Kucherov 2.02/60
Hedman 1.48
Point 1.05


Matthews 4.02
Marner 3.28
Rielly 1.57
Tavares 1.44
Nylander 1.35

The only area where any core player from tampa was better... vasilevskiy

Overal leafs core was better than tampa core but tampa depht outplayed leafs depht... thats why leafs lost

Tampa lost palat, mcdonaugh and ruutta, 3 HUGE piece of lightning succes and didn't replace none of those player...

Leafs lost muzzin mikheyev and campbell and add in ror, acciaria, jarnkrok, lafferty mccabe, murray and samsonov...

So since the same moment last season and right now

Tampa is a worst team than what they never be in last 4-5 season

And toronto is a better team tha what they are at the same moment last season
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Simple question, is the Stanley Cup awarded to the team with the best Regular Season?

Now do your stats over the last 3,4,5 yrs of PLAYOFFS...whatever you chose and then let me know what the facts tell you.

And count the playoff series wins, and stanley cups between the the players listed.
 
LeafLoyalist said:
Simple question, is the Stanley Cup awarded to the team with the best Regular Season?

Now do your stats over the last 3,4,5 yrs of PLAYOFFS...whatever you chose and then let me know what the facts tell you.

And count the playoff series wins, and stanley cups between the the players listed.
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But tampa team is not the same than 3 4 5 year ago...

and since 3 years in playoff at 5v5

Tb core
Kucherov 2.20 pts/60
Point 1.73 pt
Stamkos 1.64
Cirelli 1.27
Hedman 1.09

Toronto core
Matthews 2.31
Nylander 2.3
Marner 2.29
Tavares 1.3
Rielly 1.14

And the point was not about stanley cup and playoff succes but about core player impact

Thats just saying than its tampa depht who made tampa succes...
 
thusk said:
But tampa team is not the same than 3 4 5 year ago...

and since 3 years in playoff at 5v5

Tb core
Kucherov 2.20 pts/60
Point 1.73 pt
Stamkos 1.64
Cirelli 1.27
Hedman 1.09

Toronto core
Matthews 2.31
Nylander 2.3
Marner 2.29
Tavares 1.3
Rielly 1.14

And the point was not about stanley cup and playoff succes but about core player impact

Thats just saying than its tampa depht who made tampa succes
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thusk said:
But tampa team is not the same than 3 4 5 year ago...

and since 3 years in playoff at 5v5

Tb core
Kucherov 2.20 pts/60
Point 1.73 pt
Stamkos 1.64
Cirelli 1.27
Hedman 1.09

Toronto core
Matthews 2.31
Nylander 2.3
Marner 2.29
Tavares 1.3
Rielly 1.14

And the point was not about stanley cup and playoff succes but about core player impact

Thats just saying than its tampa depht who made tampa succes...
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All these stats mean diddle squat come playoff time and if you have been watching any playoff games you would know
 
alliuk12 said:
All these stats mean diddle squat come playoff time and if you have been watching any playoff games you would know
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Last season against TB was pretty much a tossup. This year the Leafs are probably better than they were, not sure about TB but should still be really close, could go either way.

I watch all the playoff games and that's the way I see it. What about you?
 
Magic Mitch said:
I'd bet against it now.

They've looked like a shit team since ROR got hurt.
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They didn't look so bad against EDM, and ROR will be back.
keonsbitterness said:
Unless you don't see the waffle on the ice, skate over it, and blow out your knee.

It's a really stupid idea.
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That guy just keep swinging and missing, doesn't he. Maybe he should close his eyes and pound the keyboard randomly, might have a better chance of making contact that way. ;)
 
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I mean, of course they can. But they won't. Tampa have Vasilevskiy, Cooper, and Hedman. We have Samsonov, Keefe, and Rielly. When one team has such a massive edge in net, coaching, and their #1 dman, they're going to win the series.

Tampa is the most cohesive and well structured team in the league when the games matter aside from maybe Boston, who play hard every shift and are fully committed to winning. The Leafs are the same old Leafs
 
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CantLoseWithMatthews said:
I mean, of course they can. But they won't. Tampa have Vasilevskiy, Cooper, and Hedman. We have Samsonov, Keefe, and Rielly. When one team has such a massive edge in net, coaching, and their #1 dman, they're going to win the series.

Tampa is the most cohesive and well structured team in the league when the games matter aside from maybe Boston, who play hard every shift and are fully committed to winning. The Leafs are the same old Leafs
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You make it sound so one sided. If it's as bas as you say, how is it that we almost beat them last year?
 
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leafsfan5 said:
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We actually got f***ed over so bad lmao
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thusk said:
But tampa team is not the same than 3 4 5 year ago...

and since 3 years in playoff at 5v5

Tb core
Kucherov 2.20 pts/60
Point 1.73 pt
Stamkos 1.64
Cirelli 1.27
Hedman 1.09

Toronto core
Matthews 2.31
Nylander 2.3
Marner 2.29
Tavares 1.3
Rielly 1.14

And the point was not about stanley cup and playoff succes but about core player impact

Thats just saying than its tampa depht who made tampa succes...
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Interesting...looks like scoring depth is the issue, wonder how the numbers look with depth players? or is it more about keeping the puck out of your own net, and winning the special teams battle.
 
Gary Nylund said:
You make it sound so one sided. If it's as bas as you say, how is it that we almost beat them last year?
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Because the Leafs clearly have a lot of good players who can be competitive against anyone, especially early on in a series. But when it gets to the elimination games, Tampa is too good in too many key areas for me to think the Leafs have a realistic chance of winning. The Leafs best chance is to come out flying and win the series in 4 or 5 before Tampa can really settle in, but it's in their DNA to take opponents lightly when they have an advantage over them so that seems extremely unlikely
 
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Players needs to understand. The further the buds go in the playoffs, the more the league makes and the higher the salary cap goes.
Fail early again and then they should plan on resigning in Edmonton.
 
CantLoseWithMatthews said:
Because the Leafs clearly have a lot of good players who can be competitive against anyone, especially early on in a series. But when it gets to the elimination games, Tampa is too good in too many key areas for me to think the Leafs have a realistic chance of winning. The Leafs best chance is to come out flying and win the series in 4 or 5 before Tampa can really settle in, but it's in their DNA to take opponents lightly when they have an advantage over them so that seems extremely unlikely
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Yeah OK. Bizzarre way of thinking IMO but whatever, agree to disagree.
 
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Brown Dog said:
It's pretty insane that we have lost 6 consecutive first-round playoff series, especially when all have been so painfully close. And when our team has been strong enough on paper to win every time.

That they have gone five straight years of taking the series to the brink only to lose that decisive game defies logic and the odds (and the other series was arguably just as close--6 one-goal games against Washington and all but one needed OT).

It's to the point where you honestly have to wonder if there is some sort of black magic going on. I'm so broken from it all that I can't summon any optimism for this year's edition of the playoffs, as I fully expect another crushing disappointment.

(Of course optimism is needed for the inevitable disappointment to be fully crushing, so I'm sure there'll be a point where it will look like they are in control of the series and I'll allow myself to believe again.)
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I'm undertaking austerities and with the help of the gods we will prevail over the tampa bay vajra
 
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