Rumor: Cam Robinson - Tuch Availability

[Viqsi]

Everyone acts like three team trades don't happen. Unlike a lot of the crap we see posted on the trade forums, this is a scenario that would actually make sense to get a third team involved.

Also, this is the second insider who has come out and said that the Lightning, and other teams are interested. Unless the Buffalo GM comes out and explicitly says he's not available, rumors should justifiably swirl.

Interest is not availability.

 

[HuGort]

Hopefully this topic doesn't get locked because some people refuse to close their eyes and cover their ears

I doubt Tampa has what Buffalo wants

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Hasn’t there been talk that despite Tuch being from Northern New York State, his wife is not and she would prefer to be elsewhere?

Syracuse native here, we are Central New York, not Northern.

 

[Rschmitz]

Interest is not availability.

Our GM trades for players whether they are available or not

 

[Beerz]

Our GM trades for players whether they are available or not

So his tweet has nothing to do with Tuchs availability..correct?

 

[Viqsi]

Our GM trades for players whether they are available or not

Well, I imagine if y'all want to do another Tanner Jeannot style ludicrous overpay that makes the entire NHL go "holy hell, WTF", maybe Adams will listen to you. I have noticed a Sabres fan or two mention Cirelli+, for example.

 

[SnS]

Our GM trades for players whether they are available or not

Buffalo has no need for an overpayment in the form of picks and prospects.

They need NHL talent and skill. That’s currently producing.

 

[Rschmitz]

So his tweet has nothing to do with Tuchs availability..correct?

I think his tweet shows that he isn't unavailable, while at the same time not actively being shopped

Well, I imagine if y'all want to do another Tanner Jeannot style ludicrous overpay that makes the entire NHL go "holy hell, WTF", maybe Adams will listen to you. I have noticed a Sabres fan or two mention Cirelli+, for example.

We didn't give players off our roster for Jeannot

Buffalo has no need for an overpayment in the form of picks and prospects.

They need NHL talent and skill. That’s currently producing.

Thus a third team potentially being involved. Wouldn't be too difficult to facilitate




No one is making this shit up

 

[Viqsi]

We didn't give players off our roster for Jeannot

Well in the case of Tuch, it sounds like you might have to.

Thus a third team potentially being involved. Wouldn't be too difficult to facilitate

Tell you what. You go out and find that third party that's willing to give away quality veteran NHL skill off their roster for futures while you get the highly desirable asset, then go try and bring Buffalo back into the loop without running into that team and Buffalo ultimately deciding they have no use for the middleman.

 

[Beerz]

I think his tweet shows that he isn't unavailable

Maybe 5% of NHL players are unavailable....

Any player on Buffalo is available outside of Dahlin. So unless TB GM wants to make an offer that Adams simply can't refuse then their is no indication that he is available for futures or anything reasonable.

 

[Rschmitz]

Tell you what. You go out and find that third party that's willing to give away quality veteran NHL skill off their roster for futures while you get the highly desirable asset, then go try and bring Buffalo back into the loop without running into that team and Buffalo ultimately deciding they have no use for the middleman.

What a idiotic comment, I'm not a GM who can come back to you with an offer after looping in another team

 

[Viqsi]

What a idiotic comment, I'm not a GM who can come back to you with an offer

No, but you are a HFBoards poster on TR&FA who can probably find a second fanbase to do this dance with, if you truly are interested in discussion.

Before you ask, that'll be a no from the Jackets.

 

[Rschmitz]

Maybe 5% of NHL players are unavailable....

Any player on Buffalo is available outside of Dahlin. So unless TB GM wants to make an offer that Adams simply can't refuse then their is no indication that he is available for futures or anything reasonable.

 

[Master P]

If you truly love someone, let them go.

 

[eojsmada]

Adams himself has said they aren't looking for prospects. We aren't making this up out of thin air.

Then wait until the offseason to make hockey trades. You don't always have to answer every thread with high levels of angst just because there is speculation out there. We all get it. Pegula is easily one of the worst owners in the NHL.

My only point was to say that Kevyn Adams HAS to listen to every offer that comes in, because that's his job. And at some point he will eventually sell off players for whatever he can get before they reach UFA. It's just a matter of whether other teams will bring any offers to that level or just wait until a player's walk year.

 

[Rschmitz]

No, but you are a HFBoards poster on TR&FA who can probably find a second fanbase to do this dance with, if you truly are interested in discussion.

Before you ask, that'll be a no from the Jackets.

I am a simple poster pointing out that a third team could be involved to make a deal. Something as complex and arbitrary as talking to a third fanbase and negotiating terms everyone can agree with on a message board is just unnecessary and weird. A simple "yeah a third team could get involved" is really all you need to agree to, I don't need to prove that it could happen by negotiating with random posters.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Pagnotta is a hack, FYI.

Not saying Tuch is or isn't available, but yeah.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Have fun with Reilly Smith Tampa.

 

[Fjordsen]

Well, maybe just for a hockey deal, although I doubt Tuch will go anywhere until at least the summer.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

If you truly love someone, let them go.

Only if you get a sweet blow-up doll and a 1st round pick in return

 

[Beerz]

Yeah and this can be said about 95% of NHL players.. Pagnotta isn't revealing anything that isn't common sense.

What exactly are we suppose to do with this information?

 

[Viqsi]

"They prefer to keep him, unless a team is willing to overpay."

Guess that means you'd best get to overpaying. Buffalo's already evidently said they won't do futures, so you're going to have to overpay with roster assets somehow. Good luck!

I am a simple poster pointing out that a third team could be involved to make a deal. Something as complex and arbitrary as talking to a third fanbase and negotiating terms everyone can agree with on a message board is just unnecessary and weird. A simple "yeah a third team could get involved" is really all you need to say

I'm saying that unless you can point out good examples of teams that could and/or would plausibly serve as such a third party, in a manner such that they and Buffalo wouldn't be better off cutting Tampa Bay out of the deal entirely, all you're offering is empty thirsty words of "WAHHHH BUT I WANT IT".

 

[Rschmitz]

Yeah and this can be said about 95% of NHL players.. Pagnotta isn't revealing anything that isn't common sense.

What exactly are we suppose to do with this information?

95% of NHL players aren't being actively sought after in a trade bubba

 

[Viqsi]

95% of NHL players aren't being actively sought after in a trade bubba

Many NHL players end up actively sought after in trades. On rare occasions they even actually get traded.

The only difference between Tuch and someone like Cirelli w/r/t the number of calls they get is that folks don't care enough to give Buffalo any respect with regards to determining what players of theirs are high priorities that should be kept despite high demand for that player type on the market.

 

[Tatanka]

How does this make any sense?

The Sabres do not need to deal him. He is not a UFA. He is under contract one more year. He is on a sweetheart deal. He plays in our top 6. Unless you are giving back a player that fulfills that role NOW, not a prospect who might in 2 years, there is zero incentive to move him at this deadline. And his current salary fits in Pegulas efficient econonomical bs mantra.