Value of: Cam Fowler

[WhatTheDuck]

If that's the case, Berggren might be an intriguing option. He's not a C, nor is he near the level of Zegras or Carlsson, but he's a skill player with good speed and a relatively solid 2-way game.

Rasmussen can spot fill at C, but he's been more effective on the wing.

Veleno is a C, but at the moment it looks like he's set for the 3rd line at best.

So let's try this:
- Michael Rasmussen ($3.2m x 3 after this season)
- Jonatan Berggren ($825k, RFA after this season)
- Detroit's 2025 3rd round pick

for

- Cam Fowler @ 33% retained ($4.35m x 1 after this season)
- Jansen Harkins ($787k, waiver fodder, only here to make the roster spots work for Anaheim)
- Maybe a later draft pick?

Fowler might consider waiving his NTC for Detroit since he grew up in Michigan?

Does this move the needle for either team?

Nothing there really moves the needle for Anaheim. Detroit gets an upgrade to their top 4 at a very reasonable cap hit, you're not offering strong enough assets for that. The Ducks are eating 33% to get what? A couple of your youngish players who aren't really working out and a mid round pick?

Fowler is a legit top 4 D, those often fetch a late first round pick or more at the deadline. The Ducks either need a better package of futures or a more legit veteran forward who helps their roster. You're kind of just throwing some easily expendable pieces together.

 

[OccidentalOctopus]

Nothing there really moves the needle for Anaheim. Detroit gets an upgrade to their top 4 at a very reasonable cap hit, you're not offering strong enough assets for that. The Ducks are eating 33% to get what? A couple of your youngish players who aren't really working out and a mid round pick?

Fowler is a legit top 4 D, those often fetch a late first round pick or more at the deadline. The Ducks either need a better package of futures or a more legit veteran forward who helps their roster. You're kind of just throwing some easily expendable pieces together.

I mean, there's a reason I'm not a GM.

Okay, I'll drop this line of questioning now; I appreciate the reasonable discourse.

 

[anezthes]

what are Anaheim's organizational needs?

GM and coach.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

GM and coach.

And trade fowler

 

[OccidentalOctopus]

GM and coach.

Yeah, we're kinda in the same boat with the coaching.

 

[Gliff]

what are Anaheim's organizational needs? At what positions are they thin regarding prospects?

Their prospect pool is fine. They are strong pretty much everywhere except center, but they have Leo, Z, and McT at the NHL. The problem with the Ducks is coaching and waiting on the kids.

Ideally they acquire picks they can use to move for NHL talent when the opportunity comes.

 

[Lt Dan]

I don’t expect Trouba will last in Anaheim past the trade deadline, so trading for him probably doesn’t impact Fowler’s availability at all.

Totally agree. Trouba at half price will fetch a good haul at the deadline

 

[robbieboy3686]

Totally agree. Trouba at half price will fetch a good haul at the deadline

The ducks aren’t trading Trouba. This isn’t a flip. Verbeek has hinted at resigning Trouba , and Trouba also is said to want that.

 

[SirloinUB]

I actually like the fit of Cam Fowler to Detroit but based on what I'm reading in this thread Yzerman shouldn't touch this move with a 10' pole.

If some kind of "hockey trade" with Detroit adding a sweetener could get it done, Id say go for it.

Giving up good young assets for a 32 year should be a non starter for Detroit.

Also both teams have log jams on the backend so I just don't think Detroit/Anaheim make good trade partners here.

 

[The Nuge]

If Anaheim would retain 50%, it seems like a no brainer for Edmonton. He’d only be the #4 and Nurse is at his best with a puck mover on his pairing.

I actually like the fit of Cam Fowler to Detroit but based on what I'm reading in this thread Yzerman shouldn't touch this move with a 10' pole.

If some kind of "hockey trade" with Detroit adding a sweetener could get it done, Id say go for it.

Giving up good young assets for a 32 year should be a non starter for Detroit.

Also both teams have log jams on the backend so I just don't think Detroit/Anaheim make good trade partners here.

There’s also probably about a 0% chance Detroit is one of the 4 teams Fowler would accept a trade to, and no reason for him to consider waiving.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

If Anaheim would retain 50%, it seems like a no brainer for Edmonton. He’d only be the #4 and Nurse is at his best with a puck mover on his pairing.



There’s also probably about a 0% chance Detroit is one of the 4 teams Fowler would accept a trade to, and no reason for him to consider waiving.

Fowler and his wife have had an off season home about 25 miles outside Detroit (West Bloomfield, Michigan) since 2017. He grew up in Michigan and played junior across the border in Windsor. I don't think it's a 0% chance he'd accept a trade there

 

[StreetHawk]

Fowler and his wife have had an off season home about 25 miles outside Detroit (West Bloomfield, Michigan) since 2017. He grew up in Michigan and played junior across the border in Windsor. I don't think it's a 0% chance he'd accept a trade there

He has a 3 team trade list. But, I don't think Det is going to give up a first for him in either 25 or 26.
So, if Ana is looking at max return, I don't think Det is a team that would give it to them. 3 teams is a pretty darn short list.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

He has a 3 team trade list. But, I don't think Det is going to give up a first for him in either 25 or 26.
So, if Ana is looking at max return, I don't think Det is a team that would give it to them. 3 teams is a pretty darn short list.

That's not what I was responding to though