Player Discussion Cam Fowler

[Hockey Duckie]

I would be willing to bet that bad decision making in general is 100% linked to fatigue and that there’s science to back it up, I’m just too Getzlaf to look it up.

Edit: Big Fowler guy here. He’s in over his head and playing too many minutes, has been for years but there’s literally no one else on the team that can do what he does on a nightly basis.

Does that mean there's no accountability for decision making then? Because I've seen LaCombe take on the puck carrier on 3v2 situation a few times while I've seen Fowler point to the puck carrier a few times, getting scored upon, including in the first period. Fowler can't be tired in the first period.

If Fowler stops staking backwards, he closes the gap and shrinks the shooting angles. If Fowler attacks the puck carrier, then that gap closes even further, shrinks the shooting angles even more, and probably removes the puck carrier from shooting the puck. If Fowler continues to skate backwards, then the gap increases, the shooting angles increases, and makes the situation far worse.

Again, Fowler isn't a rookie. I know Fowler isn't a great defensive player. He's a good two-way D, but defense isn't his forte, which is why Fowler looks better with a shutdown D.

 

[12ozPapa]

No. Bad decision making is different from fatigue. This isn't Fowler's rookie year.

Now, as for his skating miles ... err kilometers, maybe the staff needs to find ways to cut down his minutes such as on the PK, especially now that Vaaks looks good in a third pairing role with Gudas.

LaCombe-Lyubushkin
Vaaks-Gudas (same ES pairing partners)

So fatigue does or does not play a part…?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

he would be a nominee for an award not based on hockey

 

[Goose of Reason]

Strange. Have the Ducks considered that he doesn't hit or fight?

 

[robbieboy3686]

Strange. Have the Ducks considered that he doesn't hit or fight?

Raising that trade value with the accolades

 

[Ducks DVM]

he would be a nominee for an award not based on hockey

Technically 1/3-2/3 of the award is hockey related.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Technically 1/3-2/3 of the award is hockey related.

Oh I didn’t even read the on when I read it the first time.

Well in that case what a dumb nomination

 

[JAHV]

Well deserved, Cam. Congratulations!

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Oh I didn’t even read the on when I read it the first time.

Well in that case what a dumb nomination

Too be fair, hes quite the humanitarian to goalies everywhere when he pads their save percentage with his muffin shot.

 

[MMC]

I’ve been told this guy is essential to the young defensemen on this team being able to function but the team seems to be playing just fine without him in the lineup

 

[Static]

Correlation ≠ Causation

As nice as it is to the see the team playing better, there is no universe where you can convince me helleson is a better NHL player.

 

[Deuce22]

Correlation ≠ Causation

As nice as it is to the see the team playing better, there is no universe where you can convince me helleson is a better NHL player.

Maybe not, but Fowler isn’t a fit anymore. Other LHD can do what he does, special teams are better without him.

 

[MMC]

Correlation ≠ Causation

As nice as it is to the see the team playing better, there is no universe where you can convince me helleson is a better NHL player.

Not arguing that Fowler was hurting the team or that Helleson is a superior player, just that I don’t see Fowler as a piece the team can’t be without

 

[Static]

Not arguing that Fowler was hurting the team or that Helleson is a superior player, just that I don’t see Fowler as a piece the team can’t be without

Maybe not, but Fowler isn’t a fit anymore. Other LHD can do what he does, special teams are better without him.

I'd like to see him and McTavish in the lineup with this "new" system before deciding if we are fine without either one.

 

[70sSanO]

Correlation ≠ Causation

As nice as it is to the see the team playing better, there is no universe where you can convince me helleson is a better NHL player.

I like Helleson. After 3 games no one can say he is better than Fowler.
But if he keeps playing well and has steady improvement, and Fowler continues his decline, that universe may be a lot closer than you think.

John