Value of: Cam Fowler to the Panthers

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The defending-champs sorely need more from their backend. Could they put together a package to get him?

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[Drake1588]

Maybe, but that's not the real point. Picture in your mind what you think Fowler's cap hit is, then look at what his actual cap hit is, then look at Florida's cap space, and then find the cap room.

There isn't a lot of dead weight on that Florida roster to send the other way. Maybe at the deadline, IF, and that's a big IF, Anaheim wants to retain at 50 percent for this year AND next year. Anaheim hasn't seemed interested in retention in trades. So you might be looking at getting another team involved to retain, which makes the overall price even steeper... not impossible, but not likely.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Maybe, but that's not the real point. Picture in your mind what you think Fowler's cap hit is, then look at what his actual cap hit is, then look at Florida's cap space, and then find the cap room.

There isn't a lot of dead weight on that Florida roster to send the other way. Maybe at the deadline, IF, and that's a big IF, Anaheim wants to retain at 50 percent for this year AND next year. Anaheim hasn't seemed interested in retention in trades. So you might be looking at getting another team involved to retain, which makes the overall price even steeper... not impossible, but not likely.

I think our back end is pretty crowded and cams contract ends before our big names need new contracts…. So I don’t think we’d be against retention.


Would just depend on the package and if fowler was willing to waive to go there

 

[Drake1588]

I don't think Fowler would mind. I question if the Anaheim GM would retain. I don't think finding cap dumps on Florida's roster is a simple matter. The players they'd deal don't make enough. Florida is capped out. Florida has already traded a lot of its 2025 and 2026 picks. Tricky.

 

[ShootIt]

Florida has maybe a first round pick in 2038. Does that work?


Wouldn't mind this move, but not sure how to make it work cap wise and value going back to the Ducks without hurting Florida's current chances.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Can Fowler play the right side at least decently? We really wouldn't want to break up Forsling and Ek, or move Forsling to his offside. I think moving Mikkola to his offside could be detrimental to his solid but simple game, also. If so, this could be solid ...

Forsling -Ek
Mikkola - Fowler
Schmidt- Kulikov
Balinskis

As for compensation, idk. Maybe 2027 2nd plus a prospect? I don't want to deal away all our 25 and 26 picks .

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Between their cap situation and lack of picks, it seems like this might be a tough one to sort out. Not saying it's impossible

 

[LuGBuG]

Didn’t look at the proposal but deal, I’ll take it.

 

[FiveTacos]

Can Fowler play the right side at least decently?

He did that some last year. Probably not his best use though.

As for compensation, idk. Maybe 2027 2nd plus a prospect? I don't want to deal away all our 25 and 26 picks .

I'm pretty sure another contender could/would beat a 2nd rounder three drafts from now for a good 2nd pairing dman with deep playoff experience for two playoff runs, and I don't see a prospect that's interesting enough to make waiting on that pick worthwhile.

If that's all that anyone offers, they can keep him another year and get that at the next TDL.

A pick and a prospect might be more appropriate for Dumoulin this year, but even then I doubt they're willing to wait 3 years for it.

 

[TotalHomer]

Florida has maybe a first round pick in 2038. Does that work?


Wouldn't mind this move, but not sure how to make it work cap wise and value going back to the Ducks without hurting Florida's current chances.

I wouldn't give a first unless Fowler comes with heavy retention.

 

[ShootIt]

I wouldn't give a first unless Fowler comes with heavy retention.

Oh just a joke on the lack of 25/26 picks lol.

Only way I could see Fowler and his 6.5mil cap hit coming is 50% min retention and possibly a 3rd team to knock it down more.
And at that point, it just becomes unlikely.

Florida will definitely target some defensemen by the TDL, but probably guys on expiring and or smaller cap hits.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Didn’t look at the proposal but deal, I’ll take it.

At this point I’d rather see helleson.

Run with
Mintyukov gudas
Dumo zellweger
Lacombe helleson Vaaks


Call up luneau + hinds if injuries occur

 

[Dread Clawz]

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He did that some last year. Probably not his best use though.



I'm pretty sure another contender could/would beat a 2nd rounder three drafts from now for a good 2nd pairing dman with deep playoff experience for two playoff runs, and I don't see a prospect that's interesting enough to make waiting on that pick worthwhile.

If that's all that anyone offers, they can keep him another year and get that at the next TDL.

A pick and a prospect might be more appropriate for Dumoulin this year, but even then I doubt they're willing to wait 3 years for it.

Gracyn Sawchyn? He's a smallish yet speedster type with hands. He was over ppg in the WHL last year in D +1, and has 24 pts in 18 games in Edmonton this year.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Oh just a joke on the lack of 25/26 picks lol.

Only way I could see Fowler and his 6.5mil cap hit coming is 50% min retention and possibly a 3rd team to knock it down more.
And at that point, it just becomes unlikely.

Florida will definitely target some defensemen by the TDL, but probably guys on expiring and or smaller cap hits.

As mentioned above, Dumoulin will be a good rental target near the deadline. He's providing the Ducks with pretty steady minutes and has plenty of experience. Probably an easier deal to navigate

 

[Dread Clawz]

As mentioned above, Dumoulin will be a good rental target near the deadline, he's providing the Ducks with pretty steady minutes. Probably an easier deal to navigate

Panthers need more of a pmd though.

 

[TotalHomer]

Panthers need more of a pmd though.

And a PP QB, Balinskis ain't it.

 

[LuGBuG]

At this point I’d rather see helleson.

Run with
Mintyukov gudas
Dumo zellweger
Lacombe helleson Vaaks


Call up luneau + hinds if injuries occur

Same.

 

[Dread Clawz]

And a PP QB, Balinskis ain't it.

Ideally it would be the same, but that will be hard to find at the deadline. They might be have to think outside the box and target some top 4 ppqb, maybe on a bad contract with term, on a bad/middling team . I still think they should have signed Barrie in the off-season. He's bottom pairing, but you know he can run a pp. Plus a RD.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Ideally it would be the same, but that will be hard to find at the deadline. They might be have to think outside the box and target some top 4 ppqb, maybe on a bad contract with term, on a bad/middling team . I still think they should have signed Barrie in the off-season. He's bottom pairing, but you know he can run a pp. Plus a RD.

Could get him cheaply deadline time

 

[Dread Clawz]

Could get him cheaply deadline time

If Calgary reverts.

 

[cheesymc]

The only way I can see a trade go down is if the Ducks max retain and the Panthers offer something like Eetu Luostarinen + 2026 1st or Prospect Sawchyn + 2026 2nd or 3rd. Ducks don't really want another bottom 6 forward though... they really need quality big RHD.

 

[FiveTacos]

I'm not even sure a RHD is likely ... Someone who has that isn't gonna move him for Fowler unless he's a B or C grade prospect.

I just don't see a prospect, pick, or cap fit here. There are other teams who have some more suitable prospects, cap dumps who could be sent the other way, and thus might only need small or even no retention.

If it's just a 2nd rounder and a so so prospect for Fowler with retention, the Ducks can probably still get that at next year's deadline, and just move Dumoulin this year.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Gracyn Sawchyn? He's a smallish yet speedster type with hands. He was over ppg in the WHL last year in D +1, and has 24 pts in 18 games in Edmonton this year.

If he's not 6'2" or taller Pat won't give much for him

 

[benfranklin]

I forgot Fowler was still in the league.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Would be hard to work with the cap.