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Calle Jarnkrok

In order to inflate his stats he would have to play top 6 and with JT and Willy,

That line does struggle defensively and Jarnkrok would provide more defensive stability, but I don't think that is the reason he was signed later in the UFA season.

I see him as bottom 6 defensive first player and PKer. You seem to see him as an offensive player and top 6 potential player.

However if Leafs sign Sandin and then deal Kerfoot to become cap compliant then the 2nd line LW spot opens up.
I never claimed that he is an offensive player. I have been saying that he will add a defensive element to that line - which is obviously what Keefe wants added. I only said that his O game wasn't a black hole and that he can hang in a top 6 role and that he will most likely produce within expectations of the player with JT and WN.
 
All this is showing is that jarnkrok winger is very similar to kerfoot offensively

It is jarnkroks skating and 200 foot game that on the surface make him a better fit with tavares and nylander
 
I never claimed that he is an offensive player. I have been saying that he will add a defensive element to that line - which is obviously what Keefe wants added. I only said that his O game wasn't a black hole and that he can hang in a top 6 role and that he will most likely produce within expectations of the player with JT and WN.
The Calgary Flames found out that bringing a player from a weak/expansion team to a playoff team doesn't mean the stats transfer or improve because of playing on a better team.. There is some buyer beware here.

Leafs finished 2nd in goals for but 18th in goals against ... So I see Leafs adding Jarnkrok to address the later and being brought in to bring the goals against down as priority #1.

Jarnkrok is a pretty average player overall that puts up 12-15 goals and 30ish points.

Also Kerfoot, Engvall, Bunting and Kampf are all UFAs next summer, Leafs are going to need to rebuild their bottom 6 soon and Jarnkork will be a part of that going forward.
 
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Would be more than happy to have Jarnkrok playing with John and Willy. Surrounding John with two soft, offensive players didn't really work last year and we've seen that Tavares usually plays his best when he has grittier guys with some skill on his flanks.

If Kerfoot is around, you put him on the 3rd line where he should be. That would bring some scoring punch on a line that very much needs it and he wouldn't be a liability defensively.

Although, my preference is to ship him out and give those minutes to Robertson.
 
Last 2yrs Paces

COL A.Nichushkin 25gls/51pts
TOR A.Kerfoot 13gls/44pts
TBL B.Hagel 22gls/43pts
TOR C.Jarnkrok 18gls/42pts
TBL A.Cirelli 17gls/42pts
TBL R.Colton 22gls/38pts
VAN I.Mikheyev 22gls/38pts
COL A.Newhook 14gls/38pts
COL J.Compher 20gls/35pts
COL A.Lehkonen 18gls/35pts
 
A team that can't score in the playoffs acquires a bunch of players who can't score in the playoffs, Jarnkrok, NAK, ZAR, Gaudette: 6 goals in 135 games.
 
Last 3yrs Jarnkrok's scored at an 18gl/42pt pace as a middle 6er without a lot of PP time and on pretty poor offensive teams without great linemates.

Like I said - perfectly average offensively.
Also believe he shows up night in and night out Which is above average 😆 around here at times.
 
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The Calgary Flames found out that bringing a player from a weak/expansion team to a playoff team doesn't mean the stats transfer or improve because of playing on a better team.. There is some buyer beware here.

Leafs finished 2nd in goals for but 18th in goals against ... So I see Leafs adding Jarnkrok to address the later and being brought in to bring the goals against down as priority #1.

Jarnkrok is a pretty average player overall that puts up 12-15 goals and 30ish points.

Also Kerfoot, Engvall, Bunting and Kampf are all UFAs next summer, Leafs are going to need to rebuild their bottom 6 soon and Jarnkork will be a part of that going forward.
Let me prefix this by saying that I don't want him to be an offensive catalyst in the top 6. I want him to be the responsible one on the line.

That said:

I realize that he may not thrive higher in the line up, which is why I said that it COULD translate to good results playing higher in the lineup. That said, post TDL performance isn't indicative of his past performance - in fact it's an anomaly.

Even if you choose to ignore the beginning of the season with Seattle, three of his previous four seasons he produced at a 18-20 goal pace and 45 point pace.

Regardless, I fully agree that he was brought in to shore up the defensive end. He might just be a stop-gap for this season, but I can't see anyone else who is suitable.
 
The Calgary Flames found out that bringing a player from a weak/expansion team to a playoff team doesn't mean the stats transfer or improve because of playing on a better team.. There is some buyer beware here.

Leafs finished 2nd in goals for but 18th in goals against ... So I see Leafs adding Jarnkrok to address the later and being brought in to bring the goals against down as priority #1.

Jarnkrok is a pretty average player overall that puts up 12-15 goals and 30ish points.

Also Kerfoot, Engvall, Bunting and Kampf are all UFAs next summer, Leafs are going to need to rebuild their bottom 6 soon and Jarnkork will be a part of that going forward.

They didn't do their homework.

He is better offensively as a winger.

They used him as a center, but you can't tell Suter anything.
 
CJ is a very good player. He might not light up the scoreboard but is great defensively and works his ass off. I liked him for a few years now. He is very similar to Buntings workhorse capabilities. They are similar players but CJ could spot off Bunting if he got hurt.
 
He's the most average player in hockey. Can play any forward position. Average offensively. Average defensively. Average intangibles.
He's a better version of Kerfoot at cheaper cost

Very good signing for at least 2 years

Kerfoot got pumped up to 50 pts with 91 and 88

Jarnkrok is a 40 point player or so on his own having played in a mostly offensively limited Preds organization majority of his career

Play him LW2 and I think he gets 55 pts and is a similar player to Bunting

Surprises Dubas got him for so cheap.

Before that final 17 game stint with the flames he had 88 pts in 162 games between the Preds/Kraken. Good for 45 pt pace per 82

At 2ishM he will give us 4.5-5M level value with 88 and 91.

Best move of the offseason and one that helps us for the next two years at minimum
 
Last 3yrs Jarnkrok's scored at an 18gl/42pt pace as a middle 6er without a lot of PP time and on pretty poor offensive teams without great linemates.

Like I said - perfectly average offensively.
How's that average? That's good borderline great for usage and role

Give him a bigger role and some PP time he can get 50-55 pts.

That's a steal, for a guy who also doesn't need to cheat for points
 
They didn't do their homework.

He is better offensively as a winger.

They used him as a center, but you can't tell Suter anything.
Engvall -- Kampf -- Jarnkrok as a 3d line will deliver as expected.

Jarnkrok is a pretty good well rounded versatile player that play as a solid 3rd liner proving 15 goals and 35ish points.
 
How's that average? That's good borderline great for usage and role

Give him a bigger role and some PP time he can get 50-55 pts.

That's a steal, for a guy who also doesn't need to cheat for points
I like this signing a lot, but a 50-55pt season for a guy who has never scored more than 35 points or paced over 45 pts in a year seems pretty unlikely.
 
I wonder if the Leafs management would ask Gio's opinion of Järnkrok before signing him?

There is enough of a track record to come to their own impressions but asking the captain might give additional insight.
 
Unless Jarnkrok is made a permanent addition to the top 6, he isn't going to have a production breakout. More likely that his production drops slightly from his career average. He's here for his penalty killing more than his offense. He's a smaller, softer, more skilled, more experienced version of Engvall.
 
Not for any extended period of time. However, I don't expect he will play much with him here either.

Perhaps not, but I would be shocked if he isn't one of several auditions to that spot.

Kerfoot if still there.
Engvall ... don't see it.
Robertson ... not sure if his game brings what that line lacks.
Bobby McMann ... why not Tavares has done it for others.
Holmberg ... responsible defensively, I get the support player role from him. Some who thrives in that role.
... revolving door ...
 
This Dewd will likely play in TOR's top 6.

He can take faceoffs.

Career high points 35.
Career high goals 16.

I can see him smashing these totals if he stays in the top 6.

I think...this was Dubas' intent.
 
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Need this guy to be a real utility player with a scoring touch. Looked great on Saturday.
 
He is a really good fit for the TML

We have tons of offensive firepower already.

He will chip in offensively and he can be inserted anywhere in your lineup to help a line.
In fact a heavier better defensive version of Kerfoot at a lower cap hit.
 
Look to me like either this guy or Engval for 2nd line spot .. need a guy who can skate and plays some defense on that line .. JT can't skate back and Willy has too many games where his head is not in it
 

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