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Calgary Flames finish the season tied for 14th overall with 96 points and fail to make the playoffs

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this isn't true. I mean it is usually what happens. But in theory 3rd place in one division could have fewer points than 6th in the other division in the conference.
In theory? That is the case with the Devils and Senators. The Devils finished 3rd in the Metro, with fewer points than the Sens who were fourth in the Atlantic and were wildcard 1. Seeded points wise Ottawa were 6th and the Devils were 7th. Ottawa woulda drawn Tampa, and the Devils the Leafs. 4-5 woulda been Carolina/Florida.
 
Calgary's 27 regulation losses were also tied for the 7th fewest overall. Not bad for a team in Year 1 of a "rebuild."

This team absolutely deserved to make the playoffs.
Problem is the Flame are not in yr 1 of a rebuild. The Flames are just shuffling the deck. A true rebuilding team wouldn't have 9 players 30 and over on their team.
Get back to us when they actually start a rebuild.
 
Problem is the Flame are not in yr 1 of a rebuild. The Flames are just shuffling the deck. A true rebuilding team wouldn't have 9 players 30 and over on their team.
Get back to us when they actually start a rebuild.
Just because they don’t put rookies in before they are ready does not mean they aren’t rebuilding. They have 6 first round picks in three drafts. They traded away all their UFAs, they just didn’t have any to trade this year except Vladar and Hanley.

They have a young core or Coronato, Wolf, Parekh, Bahl. Some good mid twenties players in Zary, Frost, Farabee, Sharongovich.

And they have a prospect pool with a ton of interesting prospects. Brustewicz, Suniev, Basha, Gridin, Mews, Stromgren, Battaglia, Honzek, Morin, etc.

The burn it to the ground rebuild hasn’t really worked for any team since Colorado. I think they will surprise a lot of people in the next few years.
 
The current system is ridiculous. It's insane that #5 Dallas has to play #7 Colorado but #10 (!!!) Carolina gets #16 New Jersey.

Get rid of the stupid divisions -trying to manufacture these rivalries isn't working. Go 1 v 16, 2 v 15 in the playoffs. I want the best 2 teams in the league to be in the finals. Balance the schedule if you have to - home and home against the other 31 teams = 62 games. Fill in the rest of the season with another 4-nations type of tournament, or division tournaments to keep the rivalries, or play ins (which I would hate), or just end the season earlier.

Also, let the top seeds choose their opponent. Maybe they prefer to play a slightly tougher opponent vs having to fly cross-country to face their natural opponent.

At the very least, if we have to keep the current stupid system, then have a potential conference cross-over in the semis. This gives the possibility of an Edm / Cal, Mon / Bos, finals.

/rant

tldr: the current system sucks
no way.

First of all the reason these teams are playing is because of where they finished in the standings.

1v16 2v15... no way. You can't rid of the west and eastern conferences because travel time and distances are going to be unfair to a lot of teams. I agree in getting rid of the current playoff format, it sucks, but a 1v16 is worse. 1v8 per conference is the best option.
 
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Just because they don’t put rookies in before they are ready does not mean they aren’t rebuilding. They have 6 first round picks in three drafts. They traded away all their UFAs, they just didn’t have any to trade this year except Vladar and Hanley.

They have a young core or Coronato, Wolf, Parekh, Bahl. Some good mid twenties players in Zary, Frost, Farabee, Sharongovich.

And they have a prospect pool with a ton of interesting prospects. Brustewicz, Suniev, Basha, Gridin, Mews, Stromgren, Battaglia, Honzek, Morin, etc.

The burn it to the ground rebuild hasn’t really worked for any team since Colorado. I think they will surprise a lot of people in the next few years.
A rebuilding team in their so called 1st yr [ normally ] don't have 9 forwards 30 and over in their lineup. That usually happens when a team decides to normally the chairs on the deck. They will enter a rebuild when they decide to dish most of those older players. Pretty simple.
 
They got 16 of a possible 18 points vs the 3 worst teams in the league (all in the West). I think they maybe beat Montreal if they were in the East, but even that's not a given.
 
Seeing the Jets collapse faster than a cheap tent on the road after barely squeaking out two wins at home — I could see the Flames giving them a run for their money. I legit expected the Jets would be different this year but they’re still a clown show come playoff time.
 
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in any event it's all kind of irrelevant because every team in the playoffs looks like they belong there. no one is getting blown out and even the lopsided series have been close games.
 
In theory? That is the case with the Devils and Senators. The Devils finished 3rd in the Metro, with fewer points than the Sens who were fourth in the Atlantic and were wildcard 1. Seeded points wise Ottawa were 6th and the Devils were 7th. Ottawa woulda drawn Tampa, and the Devils the Leafs. 4-5 woulda been Carolina/Florida.
No, that is not what happened. I'm talking about a situation where the top non-playoff team has more points than #3 in the opposite division. I don't believe that has happened, but it is possible.
 
STL. They were tied in points. There should be a 1 game "play in" like in MLB.
Lmao. You deserved to be in over the team that had more wins than you AND won the head to head season series?

Might be the worst homer take of all time.

And by the way, both the Blues and Wild are looking good in these playoffs. Clearly better teams than the Flames.
 
Shit happens, no one 'deserves' anything.

Kings missed the playoffs in 2015 with the exact same record that saw them win a Cup in 2012 and that was with a +15 and a better regulation pts % than all but two teams in the conference....people, including Calgary fans, celebrated the shit out of that. Shoes on the other foot now, that's all.
 
In the 16 game schedule, this is like a 7-9 team winning the division in the nfl while 10-6 misses the wild card, nothing is guaranteed.

This actually happened the very first time a team managed to win their division with a 7-9 record after realignment to start the 2002 season. In 2010 the Seattle Seahawks won the NFC West with a 7-9 record, meanwhile not one, but two 10-6 teams in the NFC had to miss the playoffs (four teams finished 10-6, but the Eagles won the NFC East with the tiebreaker over the Giants, and as it ended up, the 10-6 Packers held the tiebreaker over them as well as the 10-6 Buccaneers). Seattle actually managed to win their opening playoff game, but lost in the divisional round to the Bears. Meanwhile, the Packers actually went on to win the Super Bowl, which is kind of funny.

Also funny is that I remember reading an article in Sports Illustrated where they complained that under the new "four divisions per conference" alignment, an 8-8 division winner could make the playoffs over a 10-6 team that didn't win their division. Little did they know...
 
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Regardless of how many points they had it’s pretty clear at this point that Minnesota and St Louis are way better teams when they’re healthy.
 
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Aww that sucks. The Flames would have been 6th in the East.

It might please Flames fans to know most Oilers fans are side-eyeing Dustin Wolf hoping he doesn’t become their next Kiprusoff. Man I hated that guy. Always played like such a dink against Edm lol.
7th. Ahead of NJ & MTL but behind WAS, CAR, TOR, TB, FLA, OTT.
 
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All that said... closed.
 
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