Value of: Calgary Contracts (Gaudreau, Tkachuk etc)

[Ledge And Dairy]

He also has a an awesome house at the Jersey shore...but I still don't think it means he's definetly coming back here to Philly. I guess we will see this off season but a lot depends on who the Flyers even sign as a coach....I know Fletcher said he wanted to get bigger but we will see how that goes.

Getting bigger and Gaudreau make so much sense

 

[McShogun99]

If I were Calgary's GM I would let Gaudreau walk. This is his peak season and won't be repeated. He'll hover around a PPG for the next few years then start to decline like most players his age. I'd focus on getting Tkachuk and Mangiapane signed long term. I could also be completely wrong and he could end up improving into his 30's similar to Marty St Louis.

 

[blankall]

If I were Calgary's GM I would let Gaudreau walk. This is his peak season and won't be repeated. He'll hover around a PPG for the next few years then start to decline like most players his age. I'd focus on getting Tkachuk and Mangiapane signed long term. I could also be completely wrong and he could end up improving into his 30's similar to Marty St Louis.

Without Gaudreau this team is awful. You either sign Gaudreau or go full rebuild. You could maybe try to cram in another superstar UFA. Not sure who that would be though. The next best UFA is Forsberg, who is probably almost as expensive and not as good.

There's nothing to indicate that Gaudreau, who is a late bloomer, won't be fantastic for the next 4+ years. With any big signing the last couple of years are likely to look like overpayment six years down the road.

The priorities, in terms of re-signing the big guns, should be Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and then Mangiapane.

 

[Eggtimer]

Without Gaudreau this team is awful. You either sign Gaudreau or go full rebuild. You could maybe try to cram in another superstar UFA. Not sure who that would be though. The next best UFA is Forsberg, who is probably almost as expensive and not as good.

There's nothing to indicate that Gaudreau, who is a late bloomer, won't be fantastic for the next 4+ years. With any big signing the last couple of years are likely to look like overpayment six years down the road.

The priorities, in terms of re-signing the big guns, should be Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and then Mangiapane.

Johnny isn’t really a late bloomer . He has always been very good. Just had a down year last season . I’m not sure how his game will age . I kind of believe he will be like Kane and will always be very effective just because if his skill and hockey IQ . Tkachuk is the one who is be worried about producing past his 30’s but he is far away from that yet.
If I was Calgary , I think Johnny drives the play more and should be a priority over Tkachuk , however Tkachuk being so young maybe makes more sense to build around ?
It will be interesting to see if Calgary can sign both . If not , I’m sure there are teams ready to pounce.

 

[tkb81]

It'll cost a lot. Great players cost a lot. Luckily we have a lot of other great value deals like Lindholm, Hanifin, and Andersson to offset it.
Gaudreau 10.5 x 8
Tkachuk 9.6 x 6



Curious that it would have been voted one of the most livable cities in the world for like 10 straight years then...

fake news, media driven to up the housing values .. haha jk im from sask its my job to not like alberta

 

[blankall]

Johnny isn’t really a late bloomer . He has always been very good. Just had a down year last season . I’m not sure how his game will age . I kind of believe he will be like Kane and will always be very effective just because if his skill and hockey IQ . Tkachuk is the one who is be worried about producing past his 30’s but he is far away from that yet.
If I was Calgary , I think Johnny drives the play more and should be a priority over Tkachuk , however Tkachuk being so young maybe makes more sense to build around ?
It will be interesting to see if Calgary can sign both . If not , I’m sure there are teams ready to pounce.

Gaudreau didn't enter the league until 3 years after his draft, and he was drafted in the 4th round. He's also clearly gotten stronger and better this year. I'd definitely call him a late bloomer. I just don't see him as the type of player who's game falls off in their late 20s.

Calgary should definitely be looking to sign both Gaudreau and Tkachuk. The chemistry on the top line is unbelievable. Sutter's game plan relies on how good that top line is. Tkachuk is more replaceable than Gaudreau for sure. Not sure how you could possibly replace what Gaudreau brings.

 

[LMFAO]

I feel like Anaheim would consider both too

I could definitely see Anaheim acquiring lucic at 50% retained.

 

[blankall]

I could definitely see Anaheim acquiring lucic at 50% retained.

Doesn't really make much sense for Calgary to move him with that much retention. Plus Edmonton has already retained, so not even sure you can retain 50%. For what Lucic brings, at 2.5 million he'd be a bargain. He doesn't contribute offensively every night, but he leads the team in hits. He showed last night against Nashville, that when things get rough, he can step up and turn the tide in a game still. His fight and his hit on Duchene were key components to the Flames winning last night.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Doesn't really make much sense for Calgary to move him with that much retention. Plus Edmonton has already retained, so not even sure you can retain 50%. For what Lucic brings, at 2.5 million he'd be a bargain. He doesn't contribute offensively every night, but he leads the team in hits. He showed last night against Nashville, that when things get rough, he can step up and turn the tide in a game still. His fight and his hit on Duchene were key components to the Flames winning last night.

I feel like we would take him full price, we need a heavy weight in our bottom 6 and we need to add cap space

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

If I were Calgary's GM I would let Gaudreau walk. This is his peak season and won't be repeated. He'll hover around a PPG for the next few years then start to decline like most players his age. I'd focus on getting Tkachuk and Mangiapane signed long term. I could also be completely wrong and he could end up improving into his 30's similar to Marty St Louis.

Thank god you arent the GM then, you sound like Eric Francis when he said Gaudreau would never reach 99 points again.

Gaudreau's playstyle will actually likely age quite well. He plays very similar to players like P. Kane, Giroux, MSL, etc. Playmaker that relies more on his overall awareness + puck control over his speed.

 

[DFF]

I’ve felt the exact amount of playoff wins in my lifetime as a Flame fan born at the same time. Oh boy that decade sucked bad but hey, I guess finishing top 3 in the west and getting knocked out in the first round while being the favourites is also fun for your fan base? Idk, seems like that decade resulted in me being pretty comfortable for atleast another 4 years (contracts) whereas your little Sutter bump will result in playoff failure again and then a rebuild

Imagine winning that many lotteries including Mcdavid and still have no playoff wins….and still able to trash talk

 

[McShogun99]

Thank god you arent the GM then, you sound like Eric Francis when he said Gaudreau would never reach 99 points again.

Gaudreau's playstyle will actually likely age quite well. He plays very similar to players like P. Kane, Giroux, MSL, etc. Playmaker that relies more on his overall awareness + puck control over his speed.

I also thought that the Reinhart trade was a good one for the Oilers so what do I know. I would have agreed with Francis that he wouldn't eclipse 99 points. History says that usually players start declining at this age so I would bet that he doesn't have another 100 point+ season in his career. It will be like re-signing Draisaitl in 3 years. He mostly likely will have hit his peak by then but you're going to have to sign him for near Mcdavid money because of what he's done for the team and to keep the core and fan base happy.

 

[Rangeri]

Flames will be good team even if they lose Gaudreau. They lose a lot, but they have many success hungry and good players with working system. But then of course they have to secure long contract with Tkachuk.

If Gaudreau wants to win he should stay. It will be his best chance to compete for the cup. Odds will go down if he decides to go to Philly or New Jersey. Close to home. Nice payday, but lot of meaningless hockey.