Proposal: CAL-ANA

[MCB]

Every time Zegras is brought up, it’s the same crazy mindset regardless of the fans: “Zegras sucks, we want him.”

And then offer a bunch of smaller pieces that are of no need to the ducks and get offended when they hear no.

 

[Volica]

Every time Zegras is brought up, it’s the same crazy mindset regardless of the fans: “Zegras sucks, we want him.”

I don't think that's the issue, I think the issue is that he's a divisive player.
You can talk to a fanbase and half of them will see a high skill player that's maybe had some issues the last couple seasons but are willing to bet on potential, and then you'll have the other half that see a one-dimensional player who might not even be in the NHL in 5 years; similar to guys like Hoffman or Athanasiou.

Also, that logic is HF, and has been for a very long time.
"Can we have player X for peanuts?"
"No."
"Well he sucks anyway."

I'm sure if you pulled up a thread from 2012 you'd find that same argument.

 

[Bond]

I don't think that's the issue, I think the issue is that he's a divisive player.
You can talk to a fanbase and half of them will see a high skill player that's maybe had some issues the last couple seasons but are willing to bet on potential, and then you'll have the other half that see a one-dimensional player who might not even be in the NHL in 5 years; similar to guys like Hoffman or Athanasiou.

Also, that logic is HF, and has been for a very long time.
"Can we have player X for peanuts?"
"No."
"Well he sucks anyway."

I'm sure if you pulled up a thread from 2012 you'd find that same argument.

That was for sure said about Gaudreau and Monahan

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I don't think that's the issue, I think the issue is that he's a divisive player.
You can talk to a fanbase and half of them will see a high skill player that's maybe had some issues the last couple seasons but are willing to bet on potential, and then you'll have the other half that see a one-dimensional player who might not even be in the NHL in 5 years; similar to guys like Hoffman or Athanasiou.

Also, that logic is HF, and has been for a very long time.
"Can we have player X for peanuts?"
"No."
"Well he sucks anyway."

I'm sure if you pulled up a thread from 2012 you'd find that same argument.

Sure but I'd argue that most of the second group aren't actually watching Ducks games and are just regurgitating other uninformed opinions. No one from an Anaheim perspective (fans or management) agrees with some of false narratives that are spun about Zegras' character or defensive ability. It's all massively overblown. Despite being quite snakebitten last year, the kid was just -1 on a team that finished -93...I realized +/- isn't much to go on but surely hard to argue he's their biggest issue on the defensive end.

 

[Volica]

Sure but I'd argue that most of the second group aren't actually watching Ducks games and are just regurgitating other uninformed opinions. No one from an Anaheim perspective (fans or management) agrees with some of false narratives that are spun about Zegras' character or defensive ability. It's all massively overblown. Despite being quite snakebitten last year, the kid was just -1 on a team that finished -93...I realized +/- isn't much to go on but surely hard to argue he's their biggest issue on the defensive end.

Hockey fans are fickle that way, in that defence from forwards outside of the truly egregious (Looking at you Kuzmenko) tends to be either black or white and is mostly just a symptom of coaching/structure.

For years in Calgary we heard how Johnny was a one-dimensional soft tiny winger. Then Sutter starts and he's leading takeaways, his line is absolutely putting on a clinic every night; all of a sudden he's sound. It's just how it is for forwards.

 

[Benstheman]

Zegras value is probably equivalent to a mid 1st.