C Trevor Zegras (2019, 9th, ANA)

[cgf]

I think the Avs are pretty happy with Bryam who could turn out to have the best career of the 19 draft players.

We can go into more depth in the Byram thread if you really want, but personally, I was much higher on Zegras (& Podkolzin) than I was Bowen. Even with my concerns I expect a nice partner for Makar...so it's not like I'm upset by the pick...but I don't see the same ceiling that Byram's biggest fans do and think his hype really benefitted from this weak class of blueliners.

 

[wetcoast]

We can go into more depth in the Byram thread if you really want, but personally, I was much higher on Zegras (& Podkolzin) than I was Bowen. Even with my concerns I expect a nice partner for Makar...so it's not like I'm upset by the pick...but I don't see the same ceiling that Byram's biggest fans do and think his hype really benefitted from this weak class of blueliners.

To be sure I'm a big fan of Zegras, and wish he had fallen to 10 so my Canucks could have taken him but I think Bryam was the better choice, even with the weak year for blueliners as his game is so complete and even has an edge of nasty to him.

I see Zegras as a better more playmaking version of Kadri (when he is on his game at his best) and the ducks have to be extrmely pleased with him as he is going to be an impact player for the ducks as soon as the 21-22 season IMO.

 

[cgf]

To be sure I'm a big fan of Zegras, and wish he had fallen to 10 so my Canucks could have taken him but I think Bryam was the better choice, even with the weak year for blueliners as his game is so complete and even has an edge of nasty to him.

I see Zegras as a better more playmaking version of Kadri (when he is on his game at his best) and the ducks have to be extrmely pleased with him as he is going to be an impact player for the ducks as soon as the 21-22 season IMO.

Don't get me wrong, Byram has a lot of things going for him that I like and on paper reads a lot like Heiskanen; whom I absolutely adored as a prospect...I was incredibly high on both Miro & Cale that year...so I get where people who are really high on him are coming from. It's how I felt about Heiskanen two years ago & Hanifin before him. But after the way I got burned by Hanifin, I am wary about using top 5 picks on blueliners that don't clearly have the dynamic talent to drive the play from the backend at the NHL level.

...and even though I really like Byram's play against the puck, his mean streak, and accept that, whether his shot will beat NHL goalies regularly or not, his goals displayed nice offensive instincts; I am not confident that he will really drive the play at the NHL level. Instead, I see him more as a 35-40 point guy at his peak...the Seabrook to Makar's Keith; if I was to build on the Keith comp that I liked so much for Makar as a prospect.

Byram's a great skater at the junior level, but I don't think he'll be explosive/quick enough against NHLers for his puck-rushing to be anywhere near as dynamic as it was in the dub. And if he ends up partnered with Makar on our big minute top pairing, then the transition game will not flow through him the way it did this past season. Throw in my concerns about the # of his goals that would've been stopped comfortably by NHL caliber keepers and we get to the current unknown of: how much will he be able to turn his shot into a weapon for Cale & co. to set up as a huge factor in whether he will be a significant offensive contributer or not.

If our pick had been closer to yours, I would've been perfectly happy with Bo being the pick. I just didn't love Byram as a top 5 pick because I didn't think the talent was dynamic enough to warrant a top 5 pick the way Makar, Heiskanen & Quinn Hughes' talent did. Especially not over guys like Pod & Zegras; whom I did see notably higher 'realistic ceilings' for...albeit ones that they are further away from realizing.

 

[Beckett]

I think the Avs are pretty happy with Bryam who could turn out to have the best career of the 19 draft players.

For sure, I'm a huge Zegras fan but I had him 4th, behind Byram.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Does Boston have any preseason games before regular season?

 

[Exit Dose]

Does Boston have any preseason games before regular season?

Sometimes a team will play an exhibition game against a Canadian school or such at the beginning of the season, but there's no pre-season along the lines of the NHL.

 

[tealhockey]

Does Boston have any preseason games before regular season?

Doesn't look like it this year. They'll open on the road at Union and then they have two weeks off before more non-conference action, which is kind of like a preseason, but not really.

 

[Castle8130]

So surprised that Zegras fell to 9 since Bergevin had him at 3 (had him at 3 as well).

 

[sufferer]

After Yzerman surprised everyone by taking Seider, I thought for sure Zegras was going to Buffalo. While Cozens has nice tools, I feel his overall impact as an offensive threat is quite underwhelming compared to Zegras.

 

[Hostile Offer]

After Yzerman surprised everyone by taking Seider, I thought for sure Zegras was going to Buffalo. While Cozens has nice tools, I feel his overall impact as an offensive threat is quite underwhelming compared to Zegras.

Agree, I had Zegras ranked way higher than Cozens. Zegras' upside blows Cozens out of the water. Don't think Seider going 6th was that surprising though, Bob's ranking was way out of date regarding him and Detroit is in dire need of defense.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Agree, I had Zegras ranked way higher than Cozens. Zegras' upside blows Cozens out of the water. Don't think Seider going 6th was that surprising though, Bob's ranking was way out of date regarding him and Detroit is in dire need of defense.

Yzerman is not alone on that, Bob Murray said he liked Seider alot in regards to who the Ducks were looking at before they picked.
Seider's rise from being thought of as a mid 1st round pick to 6th overall is like 2012 when Lindholm went from being viewed as mid 1st round pick to 6th overall.
Both highly regarded for their defensive side of the game.

 

[Kalv]

So surprised that Zegras fell to 9 since Bergevin had him at 3 (had him at 3 as well).

We`ll see. Even as a Ducks fan I can tell that while Zegras offensive tools are outstanding, he looks 2 years away from the NHL for me, I wonder if teams might have seen him as a slightly longer term project (thus also a little uncertain) than the players taken before him.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

So surprised that Zegras fell to 9 since Bergevin had him at 3 (had him at 3 as well).

I had him at 6 but in the same tier with Turcotte and Byram but clearly ahead of Dach, Cozens, and Pods. Great value at 9.

 

[cgf]

We`ll see. Even as a Ducks fan I can tell that while Zegras offensive tools are outstanding, he looks 2 years away from the NHL for me, I wonder if teams might have seen him as a slightly longer term project (thus also a little uncertain) than the players taken before him.

That shouldn't matter this high in the draft. If it takes Zegras (or Pod since this applies to him as well) a year longer than his lower-ceiling peers, then why wouldn't you take the bigger talent? Especially for teams needing to rebuild...which most teams picking that highly, are.

 

[bsu]

I will be in Boston later this year, hopefully a game matches up with my trip.

 

[newfy]

Agree, I had Zegras ranked way higher than Cozens. Zegras' upside blows Cozens out of the water. Don't think Seider going 6th was that surprising though, Bob's ranking was way out of date regarding him and Detroit is in dire need of defense.

I think Zegras being rated all over the place a bit has to do with if teams view him as a center or not. Easy to see why teams passed on him if they think hes a winger compared to the guys who went ahead of him being centers

 

[JuJu Mobb]

Creating him in NHL 20.

I'd like to know what potential should I give him?

I put him at ELITE MED.

 

[NuxFan09]

Had one assist in his debut playing on the top line at C. Do Ducks fans have any more details about his first college outing?

 

[bsu]

Had one assist in his debut playing on the top line at C. Do Ducks fans have any more details about his first college outing?

He was good, good forechecking hurt his arm and missed a couple shifts but solid first game. He's gonna be really good he's so damn smart.

 

[tealhockey]

Had one assist in his debut playing on the top line at C. Do Ducks fans have any more details about his first college outing?

Yeah he looked very sharp for game 1. Union didn't look great so we'll learn more next weekend against NMU. First really big test looks like UMass mid-november

 

[bsu]

2 assists last night including this one

 

[M2Beezy]

I swore and cursed up the place when Anahiem took him one spot ahead of the Canucks

 

[bsu]

Scored his first goal

 

[Peasy]

Had 6 points in the 2 games over the weekend. Seems like he is starting to get more comfortable with the NCAA.

Heres one of his assists from the weekend

 

[tealhockey]

Had 6 points in the 2 games over the weekend. Seems like he is starting to get more comfortable with the NCAA.

Heres one of his assists from the weekend

I forget which game it was but he had a really nice backhand pass for an assist I think on the powerplay for one of them