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C Sacha Boisvert - Univ. of North Dakota, NCAA (2024, 18th, CHI)

Pavel Buchnevich said:
College sports is ruined by players being able to transfer without sitting out a year.
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Eh, I don't think it's exactly that.

In the bigger money sports (and in the case of the top end hockey players), it's getting ruined by players holding programs hostage by setting price demands for NIL, or else they leave. The highest bidder s*** is getting old very quickly.
 
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Hockeyville USA said:
Eh, I don't think it's exactly that.

In the bigger money sports (and in the case of the top end hockey players), it's getting ruined by players holding programs hostage by setting price demands for NIL, or else they leave. The highest bidder s*** is getting old very quickly.
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I think it’s a terrible precedent that 18-22 year olds (and I guess some are older because NCAA hockey has now added 23-25 year olds, which I think is a bad precedent, but I digress) think that at the first sign of a little adversity that they can pick up and leave. I’d be for some type of exception. If you have a real legit reason, sure, but if you didn’t see as much playing time as you wanted your first year or the coach was a little mean to you? Those are bad lessons to teach people this age. There used to be a price to pay for doing something like this (you have to sit out a year). Now they’ve made college sports rosters about freshman and mercenaries and destroyed teams organically building a roster through good scouting and developing.
 
Ridiculous. So much for the in-house hire keeping the players home. College hockey is circling the drain ever faster thanks to the NIL and transfer rules.
 
BHawk21 said:
Is Hagens gunna be back at BC next year? They played together at Mount St Charles.
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The million-dollar question right now....things are being held pretty close to the chest on this one . Adding Boisvert could help in convincing him to stay but who knows....
 
I agree wholeheartedly, I understand that fans are nostalgic for players staying with the same program for 4 or 5 years but these athletes bring in a ton of revenue for these schools and should be allowed to go where they can maximize their value, both in college and professionally. They are essentially pros once they reach a college campus, arguing anything else is just delusional.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
College sports is ruined by players being able to transfer without sitting out a year.
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Coaches, athletic directors, university presidents all have been able to decide if they want to change jobs with no penalty for decades. Student athletes have the same mobility now and suddenly college sports are ruined.

Especially in a case like this where the school is making the choice to fire the coach, there's no rational reason to tether the player to the school. I don't like the dirty money getting involved in football but really don't think that's a concern here
 
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bwanajamba said:
Coaches, athletic directors, university presidents all have been able to decide if they want to change jobs with no penalty for decades. Student athletes have the same mobility now and suddenly college sports are ruined.

Especially in a case like this where the school is making the choice to fire the coach, there's no rational reason to tether the player to the school. I don't like the dirty money getting involved in football but really don't think that's a concern here
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Flawed reasoning. Those people you name aren’t an entertainment product.

You can change. No one is stopping that, and as I say I would be in favor of some sort of hardship exemption to a one year sit out (as I believe they had before). You don’t have a viable sporting product anymore with as much as rosters are changing. It’s getting beyond ridiculous. It needs to be curtailed.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Flawed reasoning. Those people you name aren’t an entertainment product.

You can change. No one is stopping that, and as I say I would be in favor of some sort of hardship exemption to a one year sit out (as I believe they had before). You don’t have a viable sporting product anymore with as much as rosters are changing. It’s getting beyond ridiculous. It needs to be curtailed.
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Incredibly naive to say that the people I named aren't a huge part of the college sports entertainment business
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
Flawed reasoning. Those people you name aren’t an entertainment product.

You can change. No one is stopping that, and as I say I would be in favor of some sort of hardship exemption to a one year sit out (as I believe they had before). You don’t have a viable sporting product anymore with as much as rosters are changing. It’s getting beyond ridiculous. It needs to be curtailed.
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Do coaches sit out a year if they leave for a better job? Brett Riley just left to take the Ferris State job, for example. All the kids at Long Island he recruited came here for him, now he just leaves them. You like that more? You're good with that?
 
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Hawks seem big on that program. Ryan Greene played three years there and Jack Pridham will be joining Boisvert as a newcomer.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I think it’s a terrible precedent that 18-22 year olds (and I guess some are older because NCAA hockey has now added 23-25 year olds, which I think is a bad precedent, but I digress) think that at the first sign of a little adversity that they can pick up and leave. I’d be for some type of exception. If you have a real legit reason, sure, but if you didn’t see as much playing time as you wanted your first year or the coach was a little mean to you? Those are bad lessons to teach people this age. There used to be a price to pay for doing something like this (you have to sit out a year). Now they’ve made college sports rosters about freshman and mercenaries and destroyed teams organically building a roster through good scouting and developing.
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Coaches are able to leave for better opportunities...why can't players? An opportunity can be playing time, money, closer to home, better fit, etc...
 
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Torts said:
Coaches are able to leave for better opportunities...why can't players? An opportunity can be playing time, money, closer to home, better fit, etc...
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Coaches leave to move on up. It’s usually not after spending a year or two at the university either.

I’m talking about players who choose a school and then think they can bully the school into submission with the threat of leaving to a lateral move if they don’t play the second they step on campus. This is not what college sports once was. The current product is a shadow of what the prior product was, and a large part of that is the ridiculous transfer portal.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Coaches leave to move on up. It’s usually not after spending a year or two at the university either.

I’m talking about players who choose a school and then think they can bully the school into submission with the threat of leaving to a lateral move if they don’t play the second they step on campus. This is not what college sports once was. The current product is a shadow of what the prior product was, and a large part of that is the ridiculous transfer portal.
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It's an Antitrust matter. Until the NCAA can get an exemption from antitrust, players will be treated like employees with the freedom to move about same as anyone else.
 
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