Tom Wilson's elbow? Tom Wilson the fighter is extremely overrated.
Thoughts on Chatfield's Takedown Yesterday?
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Wilson issued a threat to hurt someone. Was it via fighting? Was it with a dirty hit? Who knows. But his team suffered the consequence when violence goes too far, which is something Wilson has had no problem doing multiple times over his career. If that's the game he wants to play, it's hypocritical to whine about it when it's done to your team in the very game Wilson is calling for it to happen.
The Expert
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No, he isn’t. As stated previously in this thread he has fought many “heavyweights” throughout his career. Provide context on why Tom Wilson is an “overrated” fighter. Your claim is completely baseless.
tarheelhockey
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Again I’m not sure what you want me to do, in order to show you how a 2.5 hour game escalated shift-over-shift until it boiled over.
My suggestion is you go get a Max subscription, pop some popcorn, and watch it tonight. Then we can come back tomorrow and you can talk intelligently about what happened instead of attempting to analyze something you haven’t seen.
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tarheelhockey
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So use your own logic — McMichael wasn’t hurt either, so you have nothing to complain about.
GIN ANTONIC
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You're very carefully choosing words to minimize the play. He didn't get pinballed and then 'fell down'.
It was a hard cross check in the numbers that sent him flying forward while he was engaged with another player. That's dirty and cheap no matter how you want to spin it and it's fair to think that his teammates would take exception to that.
McMichael is also fine so I don't think he would appreciate you calling him so soft and weak as to call our Chatfield's actions in the fight.
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If you are someone who is in favor of fighting staying in the game, then whether you like it or not, this action is not something the NHL can police. Once a fight starts, as long as a 3rd guy doesn't step in, or a player takes off their helmet, the refs stay out of it until they see a reasonable time to break it up or it goes to the ground.
Those are about all the rules there are. If you start putting in more rules and structure, even more so judgement calls, (ignoring that this would be the easiest call of all time) you are effectively ending fighting in hockey.
I enjoy fighting in hockey, I don't enjoy what we just saw, but I know trying to police it in anyway would start the end of fighting faster than you can imagine.
People wanted a rule in place to deal with offsides, because of one insanely blatant missed call on an important goal. We see how that all turned out, most of us would much rather the refs just miss sometimes than what we have now.
So it's a tough position to be in, being okay with fighting, absolutely hating this instance of it, but having to be ok with no rules made about because it would end fighting.
Those are about all the rules there are. If you start putting in more rules and structure, even more so judgement calls, (ignoring that this would be the easiest call of all time) you are effectively ending fighting in hockey.
I enjoy fighting in hockey, I don't enjoy what we just saw, but I know trying to police it in anyway would start the end of fighting faster than you can imagine.
People wanted a rule in place to deal with offsides, because of one insanely blatant missed call on an important goal. We see how that all turned out, most of us would much rather the refs just miss sometimes than what we have now.
So it's a tough position to be in, being okay with fighting, absolutely hating this instance of it, but having to be ok with no rules made about because it would end fighting.
I am glad CMM was not injured (or so it appears). I don’t think you can suspend a guy for something like that in the middle of a fight with no third man in. Dirty move but hey, it’s a fight and they both dropped the gloves.
That said, I hope Chatfield doesn’t have stuffing for dinner 4/10 because McIlrath might knock it out of him.
That said, I hope Chatfield doesn’t have stuffing for dinner 4/10 because McIlrath might knock it out of him.
Cursed Lemon
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Anyone who is okay with this is an idiot. That plays out just barely differently and you have a sport-wide scandal.
Chatfield just almost killed someone in a fight, according to the people in this thread.
McIlrath should be scared.
Those "takedowns" are pretty commonplace in fights these days (though Chatfield's was way more reckless than most) and they're really dangerous. IIRC Ryan Flinn took a really bad spill onto his head and thankfully didn't suffer any serious consequences that I know of, but I believe there was a player in junior who had something similar happen and wasn't so lucky.
Just tell the players they can punch each other until they're all bloodied up, but then throw the book at anyone trying to bail by throwing the other guy onto the ice.
Just tell the players they can punch each other until they're all bloodied up, but then throw the book at anyone trying to bail by throwing the other guy onto the ice.
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GIN ANTONIC
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And mega cross-checked a guy in the numbers to send him flying... Man... that always seems to get glossed over for some reason!
To clarify, I am also not cool with what Chatfield did. Have to remember to put this in every post because apparently it's not possible to make mention of anything else that happened in this game that led to this escalation.
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GIN ANTONIC
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The real question no one’s asking: What does Mia Khalifa have to say about all of this?
Your favourite analyst is probably Jenn Botterill.
I don't know how people are so worried about this happening in a fight, it is a fight.
A lot of people need to change the channel or close their eyes when a fight comes on it seems.
Derailed75
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Off the top of my head without googling it he cross checked Burns in the lower back, then hit him while he was down and I think Bouch said Wilson accused Burns of diving.
When Aho hit him with his stick it's because Wilson was targeting Ahos head and missed
Pretty sure he hit KK with a dangerous cross check
Theres also the fact that he literally said he was going to hurt someone on the Canes
And finally the cross check that threw Walker about 3 feet through the air
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So the Capitals weren’t allowed to throw a hit because of what happened prior? I get it if it’s a late hit/charge/cross check or whatever you want to call it, but that’s nothing. Just pointing out that it was a nothing burger hit, even though multiple people (not just you) stated other wise.
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