Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
you go overboard with Byfield. You obsess over everything about him. Holy shit.
It’s a players preference whether he has a shorter stick or not.
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C Quinton Byfield (2020, 2nd, LAK) part IV
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you go overboard with Byfield. You obsess over everything about him. Holy shit.
It’s a players preference whether he has a shorter stick or not.
yankeeking
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I am not sure if they are trying to get him to work thru these matchups for futures sake , we all know we are not going to contend for the cup this year and if he learns from competing against 29 especially its all good , but damn every time he gets near him the whistle blows and he is penalized , pretty random and ticky tack calls on him , the rookie-superstar thing. The kid plays the checking role pretty well but these guys are using matchups to there advantage as they should, hopefully home ice in 3 of the next 4 will shelter him some. 29 is the perfect example of not over reacting to the development curve and hopefully his confidence stays in tacked thru this series
Raccoon Jesus
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I just don't take him seriously anymore. When you only show up to bump the thread to trash the player after a bad game it's not good faith discussion.
EVERY King was absolute garbage last night. Byfield had some very visible learning experiences to be sure, though.
Imnotagoodposter
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As someone who’s only watched like 2 minutes of Byfield playing since the draft, I just don’t see much upside.
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WADEugottaBELAKthat
Nikishin turning heads.
As a fantasy owner who picked him over Stutzle and Raymond, I am kicking myself. How did I not see the lack of IQ?
Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
William H Bonney
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He's been in over his head the whole season save a couple of games, so it's not surprising it's amplified in the playoffs. It'll be interesting to see if they sit Byfield when Arvidsson is ready. As a Kings fan, I know they don't have a ton of options. Guys like Vilardi, Andersson, and Kupari aren't up to this level yet, either. Ideally the Kings would have acquired some capable 4th liners via trade and let Byfield go play top minutes in Ontario, but here we are.
Fatass
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He's known for his play away from the puck, isn't he? Might be a better option than QB. Has Turcotte played in the NHL yet though? Might be too big a jump to go into the playoffs.
William H Bonney
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He'd be better suited for the 4th line role, yes. More complete player than Byfield. Turcotte did get some NHL games in this season but he was injured for awhile and just recently returned to play. And Turcotte hasn't been setting the AHL on fire, either. Like Byfield, he needs more AHL development time.
Fatass
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Do the Kings need to have QB put up points, or just be decent defensively? Maybe the Kings' management thinks this series is the best way for QB to improve his play away from the puck? Just seems like he's being tossed into deep water and he's struggling to swim to shore. Turcotte sounds like he would sink to the bottom right now. Next year watch out though. QB and Turcotte. down the middle is looking pretty good for 3rd and 4th line minutes.
kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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That's more than a lot of the experts in this thread. What sticks out to you most? Was he on the ice during those two minutes? How was he on the bench?
William H Bonney
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Well, the Kings always need more goals so I'd say that, but from the Kings perspective, I think they believe he'll develop the "best" on the 4th line, so they're probably hoping for defense and checking from him now.
I don't think Turcotte would sink. He'd be better on the 4th line right now than QB. I think the question to ask is it that right for either player's development or would they both be better served playing big roles in Ontario? I think they would be better served in the AHL.
Peasy
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Heh, me too. But I actually got Raymond as well in that draft 5th so not all bad. Going into the draft I was so torn. I was so high on stutzle, and then my league did the lottery and I ended up with the 2nd pick. Hadn't even considered Byfield as a possibility before hand cause I was just planning for the worst outcome.
Then of course I bought into the media hype around him. The whole "mystery". When I watched him, I wasn't completely sold on him, but I got influenced by media and the Canadian hype for sure and his "unlimited potential". Also the year before that I took zegras over dach (similar situation, smaller skilled dude VS a giant at C, but ultimately went with who I liked more) and dach came right into the NHL and again, everyone was hyping this dude like crazy, saying he's gunna be the best from the draft etc because Hughes and kakko were struggling.
So going into my leagues draft, I had the thought of my last draft on my mind and was like man if I miss out on a dope big c two times in a row I'll be kicking myself. I was still so split on who to take I just said whoever goes first in the NHL I'll take.
I learned my mistake, and realize I should just trust my gut instead of these old boys running NHL clubs. I was right about zegras and as of now, looks like my initial assessment of Byfield/stutzle was correct too.
However though, kinda a happy ending for me. This year I was able to deal byfield for more immediate help and ended up winning this year in my league.
I still think it's obvious that Byfield will have an NHL future, I just don't think his peak will be extremely high like everyone was talking about before his draft. As of now there just appears to be a lot of flaws in his game that he hasn't really seemed to improve on since getting drafted (hunched over, bobbling pucks and passes, creativity in the offensive zone). I think he ultimately settles as a 1b center type, rather than a potential NHL star.
I know! It’s such an obvious measurable. I bet he has bad intangibles too.
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Agree Turc would not sink. His game is literally a playoff skill set. I agree he needs to flourish in the AHL, but if I had to choose which one for playoffs it’s Turc.
Steve Kournianos
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This will be a good learning experience for him. He's never faced this level of physicality before. I've counted several entries that looked clean as well as scoring chances he either created or was involved in near the net. Baby steps. He's getting an advanced-degree education while being mentored by two of the top 10 two-way centers in the game, and Byfield's two-way play was strong in junior and the AHL. The Kings will own that division within four years, so enjoy whatever minor mistakes he makes as a 19-year-old center playing fourth-line minutes.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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A lot of people said the exact same thing about the guy that Columbus drafted instead of Kopitar.
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Well at least Brule was a good junior player. He was just rushed and ruined by injuries.
Chicago had no excuse for drafting Skille over Kopitar lol. It's like they had zero European scouts.
I don’t think a single person has said he’s a bust. People have said he’s clearly not NHL ready and playing poorly while questioning why they haven’t sent him to the AHL.
Where is the lie in any of that?
kilowatt
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You put a lot of words in my mouth considering I was responding to a person who quite literally said they watched two minutes of Byfield and didn’t see any upside.
Shroud of Orrin
Come on, Bob
In that keeper draft I picked Stutzle #2. The next guy shocked and picked Sanderson. Then QB fell to me at #4. I couldn't believe my luck. The whole debate for me was Stutzle vs Byfield at the time as I had no chance at Laf. I thought Raymond was a few years away. Idiot.
Regardless of all this recent disappointment and those WJC games that still haunt me, I still believe in the guy and I think he will come back next year much better prepared. I guess the alarming thing for me though is I thought for sure Kops' mentorship would have a faster impact on him. I'm still scratching my head on that.
Once he gets past the pressure and confidence thing I believe the physical part of his game will take over. It would be a mistake to give up on him IMO. Seen this movie before. I also saw Burnt in Atlanta: The Story of Patrik Stefan and more recently, Nailed to the Cross: The Yak Saga...
Good luck QB!
Regardless of all this recent disappointment and those WJC games that still haunt me, I still believe in the guy and I think he will come back next year much better prepared. I guess the alarming thing for me though is I thought for sure Kops' mentorship would have a faster impact on him. I'm still scratching my head on that.
Once he gets past the pressure and confidence thing I believe the physical part of his game will take over. It would be a mistake to give up on him IMO. Seen this movie before. I also saw Burnt in Atlanta: The Story of Patrik Stefan and more recently, Nailed to the Cross: The Yak Saga...
Good luck QB!
BoardsofCanada
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I've watched bits of pieces of Byfield this season and every time, I've come away thinking he looks good. So I am not seeing what other posters are seeing. He's faster than I thought he would be and has good hands. Give him time to adjust. The points will start coming.
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