C Mitchell Marner - London Knights, OHL (2015 Draft)
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McDavid, Marner, Hanifin or bust for the Oil
That's what I'm thinking anyway...very torn between Hanifin and Marner...and that's knowing we desperately need that potential #1D
That's what I'm thinking anyway...very torn between Hanifin and Marner...and that's knowing we desperately need that potential #1D
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I figured someone would question my post. It's not a slight on Eichel at all, what I was trying to say is IF Marner had the benefit of playing his 18 year old season before being drafted (like Eichel does), how would we view him in that 2016 draft? The hype would be absolutely insane this time next year, I believe.
He is much better than Drouin and Huberdeau as prospects. Marner in his last 50+ games essentially has the same amount of points as McDavid. Obviously McDavid's injury had an impact on his overall performance but Marner is a lot closer to being top 2 in most drafts.
The guy is an incredible talent and his size is a non-issue because he's an extremely skilled player who also doubles as a grinder. He works hard and is usually in the middle of the action despite his smaller size compared to Eichel/Strome etc.
If the Leafs fall to 5 what's the cost to trade up to 3 or 4 for Marner?
If they fall to 6th I'd be willing to go Nashville First, but if we're still in that top 5 that's an overpay imo
If they fall to 6th I'd be willing to go Nashville First, but if we're still in that top 5 that's an overpay imo
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It's scary how good Marner is becoming. His on ice intelligence and all around skill-set are impeccable. The only weakness I can observe is his size, but his game will be very transferable to the NHL.
The Oilers may be in a bit of a pickle if they have the 3rd overall pick ... do they take him if they feel he is truly the BPA, or do they draft more towards need in Hanifin (though technically they need RD way more than a LD).
I think if you really feel he is the BPA, you take him, let him spend a year in junior bulking up, let Yakupov boost his trade value for next season and then deal Yakupov for a d-man.
I think if you really feel he is the BPA, you take him, let him spend a year in junior bulking up, let Yakupov boost his trade value for next season and then deal Yakupov for a d-man.
These playoff numbers are just absurd. Crazy to see him turn it up a notch from what he was already doing.
Let's just assume for a second that he keeps up a ~2.5 - 3 ppg pace somehow and leads the Knights to a Memorial Cup playing C and in all situations.
Should he not even be considered at #2 to the right team? I get that Eichel may be generational, but sometimes you just have to say the drafted is stacked beyond belief and pick the best player.
I don't think there's a team that couldn't use a player like that. I am hyped for the draft haha.
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I really cant see how Eichel will be that much better then Marner.
If i were to break it down i see it like this
Skill
Marner 5 - Eichel 4.5
Speed
Marner 5 - Eichel 4.5
Strength
Marner 4 - Eichel 5
Hockey IQ
Marner 5 - Eichel 5
Will to win / Compete
Marner 5 - Eichel 4.5
I think it really boils down to possition. If Eichel can translate his qualities into an NHL center iceman then hes the more valuable asset. If Marner is developed into a C then its a wash IMO.
If i were to break it down i see it like this
Skill
Marner 5 - Eichel 4.5
Speed
Marner 5 - Eichel 4.5
Strength
Marner 4 - Eichel 5
Hockey IQ
Marner 5 - Eichel 5
Will to win / Compete
Marner 5 - Eichel 4.5
I think it really boils down to possition. If Eichel can translate his qualities into an NHL center iceman then hes the more valuable asset. If Marner is developed into a C then its a wash IMO.
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You left out one category, it's not as relevant anymore, but size, Eichel is 6'1, maybe grows larger, Marner is 5'11 (he made a point of saying this in an interview on TSN 1050 a bunch that he is 5'11). I personally don't care but some GMs will prefer a bigger centre.
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Eichel is easily a 5 in speed and skill. The guy glides like Modano out there and his hands, shot, and passing are amazing. Not to mention his vision is absurd, 2nd (I believe) only to McDavid in this draft.
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Eichel is significantly stronger, with a heavier shot and better skating ability.
Any talk of anyone but Eichel and McDavid in the top 2 is nonsense.
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man, whoever is picking #1 overall will have a tough choice between McDavid and Marner who apparently is better than Eichel now...
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So Marner is a 5 in every category except strength? I guess he's better than McDavid?
LolungoReboundo
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Eichel is twice the skater as Marner. I don't think people understand just how good of a skater he is.
Twice? Lol. Keep drinking the water. We will see at the combine on ice testing. Marner finished second only to McDavid at the Prospects on ice testing. Marners skating especially edges are better period IMHO.
As hard as it might be for some of you to hear there may very well be some teams with Marner ahead of Eichel on their lists. Every year HF has its players that just can't fall and most years there are surprises. Not a knock on Eichel at all for those that will inevitability will take this to heart.
Marner could go #2. Eichel is one developmental year ahead of Marner, Eichel played a level higher than midget for 3 years, Marner has played a higher level than midget for 2 years. So it would make more sense to compare Marner's draft+1 year to Eichel's draft year (this year). I would say Marner's hockey sense is better but Eichel's bigger and stronger.
Unlikely but I wouldn't be shocked out of my mind.
Unlikely but I wouldn't be shocked out of my mind.
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