Or you know he's going home, spending his last chance to play at home before getting old. And bailing??? wtf man
C Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts, QMJHL (2012 draft) III
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Or you know he's going home, spending his last chance to play at home before getting old. And bailing??? wtf man
I do not discredit Grigo's stats at all. All i am saying is that we should expect that kind of dominant season with a stacked team. Part of why the PP is so dominant is Grigorenko's play on the hash marks. I don't think anybody discredited Huberdeau's stats on a stacked team...
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Legit. Grigorenko is a great PP QB, from the point or the half boards. He has a real knack for finding the seams and getting passes and shots through that most players couldn't.
Quebec isn't stacked, their forward depth is rather weak but their young kids are just way too fricking dominant. Duclair, Erne, Sorensen if you do not have these kids as 1st rounders you know nothing about hockey.
Grigorenko is a BEAST.
Grigorenko is a BEAST.
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Grigorenko with another great game last night against Sherbrooke. Scoring 2 goals bringing his totals up to 3 goals 5 assists for 8 pts and a +7 in his first 3 games.
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Wow awesome! Hopefully he can keep this up, I think this league is just to easy for him.
8/32 on faceoffs the last two games and 37/83 on the year, though.
He's probably still feelings the effects of mono, but he has to be better than that.
Wasn't that terrible last season or even when the season began.
He's probably still feelings the effects of mono, but he has to be better than that.
Wasn't that terrible last season or even when the season began.
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11 points in 4 games should be expected from a 22 year old
But in all seriousness, looks like Sabres got a steal
I think so, but it's hard to tell. It's obvious he's way more developed and talented than the competition.
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Not too surprising though. European players at that age tend to be well behind their Canadian counterparts in faceoff efficiency. Or at least that's what I've gotten from the WJCs I've been able to watch...
Hopefully he'll figure it out though. Definitely can't take draws at the NHL level if he can't win them in the Q.
He's murdering the league right now... I know he doesn't have much of a choice, but at what point would he be better served playing elsewhere? I don't know if he'll be learning much.
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Grigo is really a special case... watching him, some people said he was invisible apart from his 3 points. With the score and his 11 points in 4 games, it sounds like he's doing awesome. The truth (in my opinion) is somewhere inbetween. He could possibly play as a powerplay specialist in the NHL right away, he has the skills, and they're not just skills that are stuck at the stage of potential, like is seen with other prospects. Offensively, he's got it nailed on a number of situations. For positionnal defence as well. The thing is, he could be better in a number of other situations. He has progressed, certainly, but he could be better, more versatile. That's why I still believe the best option is keeping him in the juniors this year. I may be biased, being a Remparts fan, but I don't think I'm stretching it when I say he can still learn from this level.
11 points in 4 games is nice, but does not do much to prove to me he was a good pick. I liked that Buffalo was gutsy enough to go for the boom/bust of Grigs, but he still has things to work on without a doubt.
In a perfect world, he would spend this season with the Remparts and contend for the Presidents Cup and improve his battling/checking skills (which are near non-existant) then spend a year in the Pros (whether it be KHL or AHL if the CHL agreement deal changes) getting used to playing against men with his still slight frame.
That's what, in my opinion, it will take for him to make an impact in Buffalo as anything besides a powerplay specialist with sheltered minutes.
In a perfect world, he would spend this season with the Remparts and contend for the Presidents Cup and improve his battling/checking skills (which are near non-existant) then spend a year in the Pros (whether it be KHL or AHL if the CHL agreement deal changes) getting used to playing against men with his still slight frame.
That's what, in my opinion, it will take for him to make an impact in Buffalo as anything besides a powerplay specialist with sheltered minutes.
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11 points in 4 games should be expected from a 22 year old
But in all seriousness, looks like Sabres got a steal
I still think his skating needs major work. If he can do that, then I agree 100%
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He's going to be one of those guys where in 3-4 years everyone is going look back and wonder how the hell he dropped so far in the draft, and we're all going to be wishing our teams traded up and picked him.
Should be interesting to see how many points he'll get if he plays the whole season in the Q.
Should be interesting to see how many points he'll get if he plays the whole season in the Q.
Yep. At first I thought his ankle was bothering him and then it was his mono. I thought he would work hard on his skating this summer but from the game I saw last weekend, he's still pretty average. He's one of the best in junior to slow down the play and has an elite stick handling but he needs to be able to play a up-tempo game to be a dominant player. He needs to separate from the backcheckers and he needs to put opposite D's on their heels when he's rushing with the puck. He's not effective at all when trying to go wide on the D's. I have yet to see an end-to-end rush from him in the 20+ games I saw. Don't get me wrong, I love the kid's tool set but I can't see him doing any good in the NHL with the speed he has.
The slow players are going down in numbers every year in the NHL. The third and fourth lines are more and more made with speedy forecheckers (although still big). The top 6 players are pretty much all above average. Sure, there's some exceptions with Big Joe, Hanzal, Havlat etc.. but you get my point. I hope for the best with this kid because he has an incredibly good attitude and will definitely not be a head case for BUF fans.
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I completely agree.
Although Grigorenko had an great season last year, it ended in disappointment when the Remparts gave up a 3-0 series lead in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Grigorenko didn't have a great series and that probably has a lot to do with his fall on draft day.
This season Quebec is seen as a front runner to come out of the Q and I think Grigorenko still has to prove hes a dominant player in the Q. He had good stats last year but not eye-popping. He showed flashes of dominance but he was't a dominant player consistently, and played some of his worst hockey in the playoffs.
Not to mention, the extra year in Quebec didn't hurt Radulov.
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