C Mikhail Grigorenko (2012, 12th, BUF; traded to COL) IV

[SergeConstantin74]

Any actual evidence that there are those claiming this in the thread, or are you wildly speculating?

Easy! Just go back to page one of this thread!

Grigorenko is a fool. He should have stayed in Russia and developed properly.

MHL -> KHL -> NHL.

Certanly not CHL -> NHL -> CHL (with no chance of AHL).

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Easy! Just go back to page one of this thread!

That was nearly a year ago.

So is "Here come the Russian posters" really behind the times, or a prediction of more to come?

 

[The Iron Goalie]

So now saucer passes that don't land exactly on the target's stick are "poor?"

My bet is that if any Canuck pulled that pass off, you'd be raving about it. I think it's fair to expect NHL players to be able to receive a pass a few inches off the ice as much as its fair to expect NHL players to even be able to make a pass like that in the first place. What does this mean? Stop hating on Hodgson; it makes you look petty.

Calm down I am one of the nucks fans who likes Cody, and don't buy into the whole " hes terrible" logic. I was more trying to praise Grigo, and yes it was a poor pass, but we all know Cody is a very good passer. Even guys like Henrik, Crosby etc make poor passes.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

That was nearly a year ago.

So is "Here come the Russian posters" really behind the times, or a prediction of more to come?

It has been a recurrent story since 2011. It was only an exemple. I've read similar posts at other times.

 

[cybresabre]

9/24/2014 from the Zadorov thread.

Another highly talented Russian ruined by the Canadian juniors along with Kabanov, Grigorenko etc.

Expect his less talented peers who stayed in Russia to be better than him in a year or two. Forget about Zadorov. He is a lost cause. He made a ruinous decision to leave Russia too early.

 

[tsujimoto74]

and? looks like he says what all around want him to say. i wouldn't jump to conclusions here.

Except for how everything he's shown us from the end of last season in Rochester to now more than backs those words up. Guess he must just do what those around him want him to do too.

 

[ZeroPT*]

Gorgeous assist by Grigo on McCabe's goal last night. Demonstrating his elite hockey sense with a no look tape to tape pass. That and he out muscled Staal which shows more new found hustle and determination.
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[ponder]

Gorgeous assist by Grigo on McCabe's goal last night. Demonstrating his elite hockey sense with a no look tape to tape pass. That and he out muscled Staal which shows more new found hustle and determination.
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"Out muscled" Staal? I'm not sure the two made any physical contact at all, hardly a puck battle. Nice pass by Grigs, but let's not get carried away.

 

[ZeroPT*]

"Out muscled" Staal? I'm not sure the two made any physical contact at all, hardly a puck battle. Nice pass by Grigs, but let's not get carried away.

Nit picking. He beat him to the puck and set up McCabe perfectly. It's nice to see him beat out an NHL star when he was often called soft and lazy.

He got his body in the way and created a play, it may not be "out muscling" but it's a really nice play.

 

[FamilyGuy716]

I had completely written off Grigorenko but now it looks like he'll be a top 6 forward in NHL for a long time. Now we have to get Armia going.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

I had completely written off Grigorenko but now it looks like he'll be a top 6 forward in NHL for a long time. Now we have to get Armia going.

Do you often write off 19 yo players?!

 

[GetThePuckOut]

Do you often write off 19 yo players?!

Everyone knows he's actually like 24.

 

[1972]

Do you often write off 19 yo players?!

It's ridiculous, we had some of our better posters saying he was going to bust even last year. Posters you would expect to know better than that. Players need time, he is no different.

 

[ZeroPT*]

Writing off any prospect in general is not the smartest thing to do. Doing it with a 19 year old who has as much pedigree,skill,tools and ability as Grigo is just premature and ridiculous IMO

 

[FamilyGuy716]

I've never written off a 19 year old before Grigorenko. I thought he was going to bust because of his attitude and his compete level. It doesn't matter how much talent you have if you don't have that. He's turned both of those around which I didn't think was going to happen. I know I'm not the only Sabres fan to think he was a bust but at least I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

 

[ZeroPT*]

I've never written off a 19 year old before Grigorenko. I thought he was going to bust because of his attitude and his compete level. It doesn't matter how much talent you have if you don't have that. He's turned both of those around which I didn't think was going to happen. I know I'm not the only Sabres fan to think he was a bust but at least I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

It's still dumb. You know he has all the talent in the world. Why would you write him off?

Just because he didn't take over the NHL like Mack did at a young age, it doesn't mean he'll bust. Or Armia for that matter, or any prospect. It's just premature.

 

[Woodhouse]

Grigorenko will start the season in Rochester as most projected:

Jay Grossman @Jay_Grossman 30m
#Sabres Mikhail Grigorenko sent to #AHL Rochester #amerks

 

[tsujimoto74]

Grigorenko will start the season in Rochester as most projected:

Jay Grossman @Jay_Grossman 30m
#Sabres Mikhail Grigorenko sent to #AHL Rochester #amerks

Boooo. Kid more than played well enough in the preseason to earn a roster spot in Buffalo. Knowing this team, it probably won't be too long before injuries give him another chance though.

 

[FamilyGuy716]

It's still dumb. You know he has all the talent in the world. Why would you write him off?

Just because he didn't take over the NHL like Mack did at a young age, it doesn't mean he'll bust. Or Armia for that matter, or any prospect. It's just premature.

Never admit your mistakes here. Certain posters like to pounce.

 

[ZeroPT*]

Never admit your mistakes here. Certain posters like to pounce.

Great counter-argument there

 

[1972]

Great counter-argument there

why would he give a counter argument? you're the one who jumped all over him after he admitted it was stupid to write off a 19 year old player..

 

[ZeroPT*]

why would he give a counter argument? you're the one who jumped all over him after he admitted it was stupid to write off a 19 year old player..

I'm trying to understand the logic behind it and he hasn't. I haven't "jumped" on him. I'm asking why he would feel the need to write off a 19 year old and he hasn't explained.

It makes no sense and he hasn't explained.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Reinhart will be sent back to junior when he hits 9 games and then Grigs will be recalled... that's my prediction!!

 

[1972]

I'm trying to understand the logic behind it and he hasn't. I haven't "jumped" on him. I'm asking why he would feel the need to write off a 19 year old and he hasn't explained.

It makes no sense and he hasn't explained.

did you even read his post? Ill quote it for you

I've never written off a 19 year old before Grigorenko. I thought he was going to bust because of his attitude and his compete level. It doesn't matter how much talent you have if you don't have that. He's turned both of those around which I didn't think was going to happen. I know I'm not the only Sabres fan to think he was a bust but at least I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.

Not sure what other explanation he owes you

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Was hoping Grigs would stick. Hopefully this is a short diversion.