C Mark Jankowski - Providence College, NCAA (2012, 21st, CGY)
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Trafalgar Sadge Law
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Flames fans are really hyping Gaudreau these days.
As a small player he will have a tough time IMO. Certainly Giroux is not a comparable at all.
As for Jankowski, 7.5D seems pretty fair.
Giroux is a comparable in not only playing styles but the fact that he is a small guy that has found success in the NHL (not as small as Giroux). I don't think JG has Giroux like upside but in terms of style of play they are a lot a like.
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Giroux is a little bigger than JG, but their styles are very similar. Anyone that cannot see any resemblance I would then question if they have watched him play. Gaudreau is extremely shifty side to side and elusive with the puck. And his hockey sense, along with vision and creativity are among the best of any prospect at his age. The only thing preventing Gaudreau from becoming a star in the NHL will be his size. But his current production and level of play would of been close to Giroux's as well at that stage.
I personally think Gaudreau will end up being a better player than Baertschi.
I personally think Gaudreau will end up being a better player than Baertschi.
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I wouldn't blame any person for making that statement. But for me, I look at the kids character and the way he's cut. Not only has he dominated every where he's been, but he's been a winner and made everyone around him better. He's also so clutch and knows when to elevate.
I know I don't need to explain this to you, me and you are probably his 2 biggest fans on our board. But I think with the character and heart he has, he'll will himself to succeed in the pros.
Hell, he may get his first taste of the NHL at the end of next season.
Jankowski's rating is fair. Why anyone would have him at an 8.5-9.0 is beyond me. He didn't do "well" for his first year at the NCAA level and he played in high school when he was drafted.
With that said, he has the potential to become a force to be reckoned with. He just played his first year in the NCAA, which is miles better than high school hockey. This year will most likely show whether he has potential to make the NHL or not.
With that said, he has the potential to become a force to be reckoned with. He just played his first year in the NCAA, which is miles better than high school hockey. This year will most likely show whether he has potential to make the NHL or not.
I agree, it will be tough. He has the skill but size will be an issue. There are smaller players who make it but size is still a big asset.
Just from watching this lake placid tournament and seeing and compearing Jankowski to the likes of Teuvo Teräväinen his talent score is pretty precise at 7.5D.
I would not say he is soft, actually he is far from soft but due to how light he is he is getting bounced around quite often. He plays with an edge, so i guess that's the obvious pro. He does not shy away from going in the dirty areas and is not afraid to screen the goalie, I mean its obvious to see that with an extra 25 pounds Djanko would be a scary customer to go against. The cons right now are pretty much only the fact that he is just too light for his size, and with the high center of gravity and such is quite easily pushed away from the puck. He has got all the tools, but physically is simply not there yet. If he continues to put on weight like he has this off season i see it hard for team Canada to cut him.
Man this thread is a riot.
I guess you, Trafalgar "Pitkanen is a future Norris winner"* Law sure belong here, if this thread is indeed a riot. Then again, it may just be the Canucks fans in here leading you to that evaluation.
* See: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=11406979&postcount=88
Trafalgar Sadge Law
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Congrats on having to dig up a post from when I was in junior high to make your point.
EDIT: It's also really creepy that you've been stalking my posts from 6 years ago. WTF?
Congrats on having to dig up a post from when I was in junior high to make your point.
You act just as childish now as you did then, so that's a moot point.
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Believe it or not, there's a search feature that allows you to look through past posts. It's cool! No need for inconvenient six year stalking operations! In case you don't know the meaning of the word "search", you can find a definition here.
EDIT: Seriously, if you want to troll this thread, you should expect people to dig.
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Trafalgar Sadge Law
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You act just as childish now as you did then, so that's a moot point.
Believe it or not, there's a search feature that allows you to look through past posts. It's cool! No need for inconvenient six year stalking operations! In case you don't know the meaning of the word "search", you can find a definition here.
EDIT: Seriously, if you want to troll this thread, you should expect people to dig.
If you had to go back 6 years when I was barely past COPPA restrictions to dig up a post to display my "childishness", wouldn't that indicate that I'm currently not as childish as I was then?
Giroux=Gaudreau is an unrealistic comparison. Even many of your fellow Flames fans can admit that. But apparently making a barely passive-aggressive comment derails a thread less than invoking a post that hasn't been relevant for 6 years.
You used your childishness as an excuse for your wild prediction. But since you're still acting childish -- as is evident by the fact that you troll around still to this day -- it's an irrelevant fact. Remember, it was you who used your childishness as an out, not me.
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It's not an unrealistic comparison. It's an unrealistic projection. Giroux at 20 becoming Giroux at 25 would be an unrealistic projection, though not an impossible one obviously. It is, at the very least, not a ludicrous comparison because Giroux put up an NHL Equivalent 44 points in his draft + 2 season (2007-08), while Gaudreau put up 49 points in his draft + 2 season (2012-13).
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In other words, only when the outcome is actually known should we not be allowed to poke fun at someone for their predictions. If no one knows the outcome yet, we can poke fun all we want! Sound logic.
Of course, no one would open themselves up to deserved ridicule if they would be as humble as they really should be, considering how unpredictable these things are.
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Trafalgar Sadge Law
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Using the fact that I still post here as proof of childishness is a propositional fallacy. I'm still waiting on a recent example, your behaviour here and here, is proof of childishness. Post quality tends to improve as one ages/gains more knowledge, this is a fact. The only thing irrelevant here is your "evidence" that not only has nothing to do with whether or not Gaudreau=Giroux, but is also outdated. Remember, it was you who used a 6 year old post as evidence, not me.
First of all, Giroux is a center who plays a solid 2-way game, whereas Gaudreau is an offensively oriented winger. They do share traits such as good agility/playmaking skills, but they have enough differences stylistically that it's an inaccurate comparison. "NHL equivalent points" is a terrible predictor for future NHL success, if it was accurate, Corey Locke would be a perennial All-Star and Rob Schremp would be a franchise player.
Feel free to ridicule me for my Pitkanen prediction via VM/PM or something, which I too look back on and find laughable. However, the fact is it's completely out of context with regards to "is John Gaudreau comparable to Claude Giroux", not to mention a post from 6 years ago being completely irrelevant to today. Also, using ad hominem attacks hurt your argument.In other words, only when the outcome is actually known should we not be allowed to poke fun at someone for their predictions. If no one knows the outcome yet, we can poke fun all we want! Sound logic.
Of course, no one would open themselves up to deserved ridicule if they would be as humble as they really should be, considering how unpredictable these things are.
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Constant complaining... Mostly about the Bruins.
Would be hilarious if he ended up on their squad.
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I'd say 8.5 or 9 D could work. If everything goes perfectly for him he could be an elite 1st liner, but if it doesn't he could end up as a complete bust which is what the ranking means, same for Gaudreau but for opposite reasons.
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9 means he has the potential to be a superstar. Has he shown that in highschool hockey or NCAA? Not meaning to slight him but other picks around late first to 3rd rounders have shown similar potential. JG on the other hand has produced and does deserve an 8 D or what ever thing he is now
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