C Jack Hughes - USNTDP (2019 Draft) Part III

[bigdog16]

Here is all three of his goals (hat trick vs. Finland)

@FinnishSniper

 

[tuozzi]

Just checking if the Finns are watching this one.

Finnish fans have a front row view to this asswhooping

Why do Fins get sooooo offended and have to turn everything into a Hughes vs Kakko debate. For the record, Ive never seen a tournament where Kakko “slapped” him. Ive actually never even seen a tournament where he was decisively better either

I don't know, but devils fans chirping is probably not helping any..

See how I generalised the whole fanbase based on two posters. Pretty neat trick, huh?


Anyway, this was actually the first full game that I saw of him and the dude looks legit. Actually the whole US team was really impressive. So much speed!

 

[bigdog16]

I don't know, but devils fans chirping is probably not helping any..

See how I generalised the whole fanbase based on two posters. Pretty neat trick, huh?


Anyway, this was actually the first full game that I saw of him and the dude looks legit. Actually the whole US team was really impressive. So much speed!

What about for the people who have been following Hughes dating back to last year? And then get a great thread bombarded by insecure Kaako humpers who come to a thread dedicated for Jack Hughes and boast about how Hughes sucks, North American bias, and how Kaako is the next Mario Lemeiux (someone literally said that) all in the Jack Hughes thread.

 

[Daximus]

What about for the people who have been following Hughes dating back to last year? And then get a great thread bombarded by insecure Kaako humpers who come to a thread dedicated for Jack Hughes and boast about how Hughes sucks, North American bias, and how Kaako is the next Mario Lemeiux (someone literally said that) all in the Jack Hughes thread.

The moment anyone says someone is the next Mario Lemieux, they instantly pay a price.

 

[1OApick]

Impressive game by Hughes. Really used his skating and smarts to create offense.

 

[tuozzi]

What about for the people who have been following Hughes dating back to last year? And then get a great thread bombarded by insecure Kaako humpers who come to a thread dedicated for Jack Hughes and boast about how Hughes sucks, North American bias, and how Kaako is the next Mario Lemeiux (someone literally said that) all in the Jack Hughes thread.

Holy hyperbole. I've read this thread a lot and there are a couple of Finnish posters that I've seen doing that. Most are praising Hughes.

Also, I don't see why weaknesses cannot be talked about because of presumed biases. Finns, me included, talk about Kakko's weaknesses in the Kakko thread, but we're not allowed to talk about Hughes' weaknesses here?

 

[ricky0034]

Holy hyperbole. I've read this thread a lot and there are a couple of Finnish posters that I've seen doing that. Most are praising Hughes.

Also, I don't see why weaknesses cannot be talked about because of presumed biases. Finns, me included, talk about Kakko's weaknesses in the Kakko thread, but we're not allowed to talk about Hughes' weaknesses here?

the op of this thread is literally a Hughes hit piece

 

[Emperoreddy]

What about for the people who have been following Hughes dating back to last year? And then get a great thread bombarded by insecure Kaako humpers who come to a thread dedicated for Jack Hughes and boast about how Hughes sucks, North American bias, and how Kaako is the next Mario Lemeiux (someone literally said that) all in the Jack Hughes thread.

Forgot to mention he isn’t that good a skater due to his wide turns.

 

[AmericanDream]

Forgot to mention he isn’t that good a skater due to his wide turns.

truly epic....

 

[NjDevsRR]

 

[Emperoreddy]

the op of this thread is literally a Hughes hit piece

A 1000 page essay on why Kakko is the better player. In a Jack Hughes thread.

 

[Cheddabombs]

"oh shit he's turning again, everyone in position!!"

 

[zharkenby]

Will wear number 47 in honor of 747 jets. Such wide turns

 

[Whalers Fan]

Pointless maybe, but so is playing in a tournament with children after he's played a full season against men. What does he have to prove in a u18?

He is playing against his top peers from other countries. I don’t see a problem here, and he can still play in the WC afterwards. He is also fulfilling the commitment he made to the NTDP when he signed with the program.

 

[Red Solo Cup]

Will wear number 47 in honor of 747 jets. Such wide turns

These wide turn memes are fantastic.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

He is playing against his top peers from other countries. I don’t see a problem here, and he can still play in the WC afterwards. He is also fulfilling the commitment he made to the NTDP when he signed with the program.

Sorry i was responding to someone about Kakko. Have zero problem with Hughes playing in this tournament. Fingers crossed he goes to the WC too.

 

[Whalers Fan]

I would argue player size and strength makes a much bigger difference than rink size. That's why Matthews came to Switzerland rather than remaining in the USHL.

Matthews was a late birthday, so he was not eligible for the NHL draft after his 2nd NTDP season. Therefore his options in North America were basically the NCAA or CHL. He instead chose to play in Europe.

BTW, the same situation was faced by NTDP alumni Patrick Kane (went to OHL), Jack Eichel (went to NCAA), Dylan Larkin (NCAA), among others.

 

[AmericanDream]

welp, I think this thread did enough disservice for the young man...let's put a nail in this shit show of a thread..

 

[Albatros]

Matthews was a late birthday, so he was not eligible for the NHL draft after his 2nd NTDP season. Therefore his options in North America were basically the NCAA or CHL. He instead chose to play in Europe.

Is there a reason why he couldn't remain in the USHL with another team had he so desired? As far as I know graduating from the NTDP does not make a player ineligible, but I don't follow the league closely.

 

[VoidCreature]

Remind me why Hughes supposedly isn't on Matthews level as a prospect?

He's breaking nearly every record there is at every level.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Is there a reason why he couldn't remain in the USHL with another team had he so desired? As far as I know graduating from the NTDP does not make a player ineligible, but I don't follow the league closely.

Technically he could, but no high end prospect from the NTDP has ever gone this route — only bottom of the roster players have done so. The CHL is a better league than the USHL, so a top prospect would go that route if he decided to stay in juniors. The USHL allows a prospect to retain NCAA eligibility, but a prospect like Hughes would go straight to the NCAA from the NTDP if he wanted to go that route — he wouldn’t need additional “seasoning” in the USHL ( the primary reason a bottom the roster NTDP graduate would go the USHL route).

 

[NjDevsRR]

Remind me why Hughes supposedly isn't on Matthews level as a prospect?

He's breaking nearly every record there is at every level.

Something something size, something something non Toronto market drafting him, something something some Finn says.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Remind me why Hughes supposedly isn't on Matthews level as a prospect?

He's breaking nearly every record there is at every level.

Because the NHL game is about more than points.

He's the same or better level of junior hockey player, but Eichel and Matthews games have translated very well to the NHL. There's definite skepticism about whether Hughes game will translate as well to the NHL. If it does, he might be comparable to McDavid. The NHL isn't pond hockey. He plays the type of game that translates much better to junior than the NHL.

I've yet to see anyone reputable suggest he's as good as either of those two.

 

[zharkenby]

Because the NHL game is about more than points.

He's the same or better level of junior hockey player, but Eichel and Matthews games have translated very well to the NHL. There's definite skepticism about whether Hughes game will translate as well to the NHL. If it does, he might be comparable to McDavid. The NHL isn't pond hockey. He plays the type of game that translates much better to junior than the NHL.

I've yet to see anyone reputable suggest he's as good as either of those two.

Most of your takes are terrible but this is pretty wel said. However you Oversell it to try to prove your point.

There’s no skepticism. Hughes is going to put up points in the nhl. The question is how high is the ceiling in terms of becoming a complete player. So far he’s consistently exceeded expectations

 

[Albatros]

He has also consistently set the bar as low as possible, that's not going to be the case in the NHL.