C Ivan Ryabkin - Muskegon, USHL (2025 Draft)
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The next Kirill Kabanov?
From an interview with Slava Kozlov, currently the assistant coach of Dynamo.
Вячеслав Козлов о Рябкине: «Он не готов к КХЛ – не только мое мнение, но всех тренеров. По скорости пока не успевает. Он сказал: «Я лучше здесь буду сидеть, чем в молодежке»
From an interview with Slava Kozlov, currently the assistant coach of Dynamo.
Вячеслав Козлов о Рябкине: «Он не готов к КХЛ – не только мое мнение, но всех тренеров. По скорости пока не успевает. Он сказал: «Я лучше здесь буду сидеть, чем в молодежке»
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MichaelFarrell
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Ivan, at his best, is really a great player. In my opinion, he’s one of the best playmakers in the draft. Some of the plays he is able to create are outstanding. He is one of the few players in this draft that has the ability to truly drive offense. It’s a shame that his season has gone so poorly.
He has the talent to be an NHL player but it’s difficult to say you would risk a high pick on him at this point given all that has happened. I am holding out hope that he will come to NA and we can see what he’s capable of doing.
He has the talent to be an NHL player but it’s difficult to say you would risk a high pick on him at this point given all that has happened. I am holding out hope that he will come to NA and we can see what he’s capable of doing.
NHL teams are not gonna like this blurb. wonder if he falls and flyers can grab him with their second 1st rd pick. But this is pretty bad....the quote just screams ego. Hopefully he matures because the raw skill is there.
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I mean Demidov was ok to play in the MHL, and Ryabkin isn't, and this given Demidov is at the very least not worse than Ryabkin talent wise, and I'd say Demidov is more naturally gifted. Add to this working ethic, and the difference is even more glaring.
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I believe this is a weaker class, but it still seems like this is more of a 2nd round pick.
The playmaking has been very muted all year - most of his key passes are coming in very open ice under limited pressure, he's struggled to find passes when he has to extend touches and has been at the driver's seat for a lot of broken offensive zone sequences this season because he hasn't been able to escape pressure when the first option isn't there. His pace and work rate are major concerns. I don't see how he fits a top-six role with the lack of defensive engagement, dynamic skill (he only dangles while gliding), and the overall lack of speed. Not scoring a single goal in any competition since March 9th is worrying, too.
There's still a role for him, I think, but this is more of a Fyodor Svechkov type of player to me. Doesn't have the same defensive capabilities, but he's able to make those tight-area plays to push pucks off the walls and into open ice and brings physical intensity with big hits and engagement in battles. I am a big fan of the passing skill, he's very detailed when he's clicking with subtle fakes to manipulate and open lanes and effective from passing from behind the goal line. Still have concerns about how poorly he operates through transitions. Seems like a strong passer while not being a true, high-end thinker.
It's a hazy projection, especially considered all of the things that are happening off-ice. I can't really push too hard for a low pace, physical, pure passing center (and he's not even playing at C in the VHL now). The only positive going for him seemingly is that it's a pretty mediocre Russian crop this year. I could see a case for liking someone like Kurban Limatov over him if you're optimistic on him working out the sense issues. I'm a big fan of Nikita Poltavchuk's skillset and intelligence, but he's very raw, so it's a tough battle to fight for him, too.
The playmaking has been very muted all year - most of his key passes are coming in very open ice under limited pressure, he's struggled to find passes when he has to extend touches and has been at the driver's seat for a lot of broken offensive zone sequences this season because he hasn't been able to escape pressure when the first option isn't there. His pace and work rate are major concerns. I don't see how he fits a top-six role with the lack of defensive engagement, dynamic skill (he only dangles while gliding), and the overall lack of speed. Not scoring a single goal in any competition since March 9th is worrying, too.
There's still a role for him, I think, but this is more of a Fyodor Svechkov type of player to me. Doesn't have the same defensive capabilities, but he's able to make those tight-area plays to push pucks off the walls and into open ice and brings physical intensity with big hits and engagement in battles. I am a big fan of the passing skill, he's very detailed when he's clicking with subtle fakes to manipulate and open lanes and effective from passing from behind the goal line. Still have concerns about how poorly he operates through transitions. Seems like a strong passer while not being a true, high-end thinker.
It's a hazy projection, especially considered all of the things that are happening off-ice. I can't really push too hard for a low pace, physical, pure passing center (and he's not even playing at C in the VHL now). The only positive going for him seemingly is that it's a pretty mediocre Russian crop this year. I could see a case for liking someone like Kurban Limatov over him if you're optimistic on him working out the sense issues. I'm a big fan of Nikita Poltavchuk's skillset and intelligence, but he's very raw, so it's a tough battle to fight for him, too.
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Svechkov didn't set the MHL on fire at 16 like Ryabkin did. So that analogy doesn't make sense. Nor does saying that Ryabkin may be below Limatov (a mid prospect with considerable limitations).
But it's damning for Ryabkin to be playing this badly. He's clearly not in a good head space. Hopefully he snaps out of it.
But it's damning for Ryabkin to be playing this badly. He's clearly not in a good head space. Hopefully he snaps out of it.
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If you’re going to only look at D-1 production, then sure, compare Ryabkin to Michkov and Demidov all year. I’m personally looking at the playstyle and what parts of his game will translate to the next level. Svechkov was picked 19th and generally seen as a top-20 prospect in his draft class, precisely where Ryabkin has been trending all year. To me, there’s not a more fitting comparable.
I also said I could see someone favoring Limatov, not that it’s something I agree with personally. A big framed defenseman with the skillset he has is very intriguing, I’ve seen people have him in the first round - I don’t rate him that highly, I’m just saying that it’s not outlandish that people could end up liking him more.
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Development is obviously not linear, but there's a clear difference in talent level between the two. Ryabkin's problems are mental.
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Pretty high. Especially as he won't have an IIHF U18 to vault him back in scouts' good graces
SI90
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Obviously late 1st round picks are risky to some degree, but at this point of the season I think you'd have to be pretty risk seeking to take him there. You'd be betting weight/work concerns are unwarranted/corrected, and production fall is temporary/explainable. There's also (possibly more perceived than real) risk of being in Russia. Either way going to have fewer eyes on him than other prospects.
OTOH, maybe this isn't the deepest 1st round so despite 2-3 layers of risk, the upside case is too strong for some team.
OTOH, maybe this isn't the deepest 1st round so despite 2-3 layers of risk, the upside case is too strong for some team.
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Flyers have 3 1rst and 3 2nds. They need centers as well. (Especially for MM). It will be interesting to see if or how many times they pass on him.
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I don't know if they are that high.. it's not like there's a bunch of people pushing strong for first round grades. At a certain point you're looking at guys who should go in the 2nd round and a guy like Ryabkin who has top 10 talent.
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If Ryabkin had the season he had last year this year, he'd be a top 12 pick. Falling out of the 1st round completely would be a significant fall. I'd project him to get drafted from 20th-30th. He plays center and had a very impressive d-1 season. There must be some sort of issue with him. Sick or injured is my guess
It makes sense for the flyers to take a chance on ryabkin with their late 1st rd pick. Let him figure it out with his compatriot Michkov.
I believe you did not read all of the previous posts?
Try these:
C Ivan Ryabkin - MHK Dynamo Moscow, MHL (2025 Draft)
Off to Muskegon soon? https://muskegonlumberjacks.com/news/2024/10/16/mens-ice-hockey-lumberjacks-announce-roster-moves-add-ivan-ryabkin-and-trade-jake-merens.aspx "We are excited about the opportunity to add Ivan to our program." Said Lumberjacks President Steve Lowe. He continued "We expect...
I think the kid don't have someone who can guide him and help with career choices.
It's your draft year and you overweight, what the hell? And other strange shit.
His mother makes all the desicions as I heard, not that hockey mom couldn't be smart, but this may not be the case. But this strictly a speculation I heard from people that follows Dynamo closely
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