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C/F Aidan Park - Green Bay Gamblers, USHL (2024 undrafted)

Pavel Buchnevich said:
You’re right. Don’t trust context that explains a situation you know nothing about.

Instead look at EP and decide exactly who belongs in what round.

Congrats to you that this kid has his dreams ruined. You must be so proud of yourself.
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It was Shattuck coaches (ejected from the 1st line for Brodie Ziemer), NHL scouts (undrafted), USDP scouts (not selected) and the USHL system (didn't join the team at 18) who spoke.
 
bigdog16 said:
Thats not true. He was every bit as good if not better than Celebrini and Eiserman a couple years ago. Difference is that those two improved and Park’s development seems to have stagnated a bit. He was an early bloomer, it happens often

He will still get drafted. 2nd round is a reach at this point but probably somewhere in rounds 3-5. He was good enough to make NTDP and he was a surprising omission.
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Finally not... Undrafted...
 
Dirtyf1ghter said:
It was Shattuck coaches (ejected from the 1st line for Brodie Ziemer), NHL scouts (undrafted), USDP scouts (not selected) and the USHL system (didn't join the team at 18) who spoke.
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But none of them actually spoke. Those were your assumptions based on the circumstantial evidence. Once again, someone just told you that you are missing context, so maybe listen to someone who knows more than you do instead of beating your chest that you were right about a player not reaching their dream.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
But none of them actually spoke. Those were your assumptions based on the circumstantial evidence. Once again, someone just told you that you are missing context, so maybe listen to someone who knows more than you do instead of beating your chest that you were right about a player not reaching their dream.
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What context then ? You who know everything.

Why did Ziemer take his place at Shattuck ?
Why was he not selected by USDP ?
Why didn't he play in the USHL on a regular basis ?
Why wasn't he drafted ?

I have always heard excuses about this player and never seen anything sporting about something that followed.

For now, the idea that the guy scored a lot of points because he was playing next to Celebrini and Eiserman isn't crazy.

I stick to sports news. Not to shake me for stats 4 years ago. Start by listening to the facts.
 
bigdog16 said:
The entire league also thought Artemi Panarin didnt deserve it either
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Artemi Panarin was not drafted because he was too small and skinny and was a late bloomer.

Afterwards you can actually find examples of undrafted players. But often there is an explanatory narrative. There with Park, I have a hard time seeing one other than his insufficient level of play.
 
62 points in 51 games with Green Bay this year and off to Michigan next year. Ranked 151 for NA skaters by central scouting and listed at 6'1 185 lbs. Think he gets drafted late this year as an overager? Don't know a ton about him but seems like he has a well rounded enough game to favorably project as a 3rd/4th line role someday based on how of the talk about him is regarding his motor and willingness to take the body, forecheck hard...seems to be enough skill there to compliment that.
 
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I had him ranked 150th last year. He's very close to breaking into my recent top 128. So probably between 130 and 140.

Still the same problem as last year : not talented enough offensively, not physical enough defensively.

But he's having a full USHL season this time.
 
Dirtyf1ghter said:
I had him ranked 150th last year. He's very close to breaking into my recent top 128. So probably between 130 and 140.

Still the same problem as last year : not talented enough offensively, not physical enough defensively.

But he's having a full USHL season this time.
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I have read through this thread and from the sounds of it you haven't actually watched a video of this guy play? You are only making comments based on what others have said.
 
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bother said:
I have read through this thread and from the sounds of it you haven't actually watched a video of this guy play? You are only making comments based on what others have said.
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Honestly (and I feel like I'm one of the few who do here), I saw him playing in videos with Shattuck at U16 and with Team USA.

I challenged the fact that he wasn't at all at the level of Eiserman and Celebrini, then that he didn't have the profile to be selected in the first round, then I was skeptical that he would be drafted in the second or third round.

Rereading the thread gives me the impression that I was the only one who correctly estimated his value.

You can watch the player 100 times (nobody did it here anyway), but if you don't know how to assess a player's level, you're wasting your time (and there are other things to do in life than diligently watch Aidan Park in the USHL when you're not a paid USHL scout).

Similarly, you're wasting your time creating a secondary account to denigrate me again. Find you a girlfriend. You will think of something other than me.
 
Dirtyf1ghter said:
Honestly (and I feel like I'm one of the few who do here), I saw him playing in videos with Shattuck at U16 and with Team USA.

I challenged the fact that he wasn't at all at the level of Eiserman and Celebrini, then that he didn't have the profile to be selected in the first round, then I was skeptical that he would be drafted in the second or third round.

Rereading the thread gives me the impression that I was the only one who correctly estimated his value.

You can watch the player 100 times (nobody did it here anyway), but if you don't know how to assess a player's level, you're wasting your time (and there are other things to do in life than diligently watch Aidan Park in the USHL when you're not a paid USHL scout).

Similarly, you're wasting your time creating a secondary account to denigrate me again. Find you a girlfriend. You will think of something other than me.
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Ok I am not going to waste my time discussing with you. You sound like you believe gangstalking is real lmao.

I am a new user but sure
 
Dirtyf1ghter said:
Honestly (and I feel like I'm one of the few who do here), I saw him playing in videos with Shattuck at U16 and with Team USA.

I challenged the fact that he wasn't at all at the level of Eiserman and Celebrini, then that he didn't have the profile to be selected in the first round, then I was skeptical that he would be drafted in the second or third round.

Rereading the thread gives me the impression that I was the only one who correctly estimated his value.

You can watch the player 100 times (nobody did it here anyway), but if you don't know how to assess a player's level, you're wasting your time (and there are other things to do in life than diligently watch Aidan Park in the USHL when you're not a paid USHL scout).

Similarly, you're wasting your time creating a secondary account to denigrate me again. Find you a girlfriend. You will think of something other than me.
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Congrats, its one of the few times you’ve been right around here. Usually you are known for not knowing what you are talking about
 
bother said:
Ok I am not going to waste my time discussing with you. You sound like you believe gangstalking is real lmao.

I am a new user but sure
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We believe it. The guy created an account on HFBoards specifically to attack a user on a thread about an undrafted players not in the actuallity and on a post that didn't really leave room for such an aggressive attack.

I think there are a lot of more important topics on the site than an undrafted player. But apparently nothing else interests you.

You're the one who started wasting your time with me, I didn't ask you for anything and I even invite you to never bother me again.

Bye bye bye.
 
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I like how we're supposed to pronounce his career over.

Maybe he wasn't as good as hyped when he was like 15 years old. Okay, so what? He really didn't have a bad first junior season. He was well over 1PPG, and this is a player who isn't all offense.

I think he'll get drafted this year, and will have a chance to be an NHL'er if he continues progressing. Why does it matter how he was looked at years back? And also why will it matter that he wasn't drafted his first time around if he's drafted his second time around?
 
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bigdog16 said:
Congrats, its one of the few times you’ve been right around here. Usually you are known for not knowing what you are talking about
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My 2024 draft list completely contradicts your theory. If you do better, feel free to prove it.
 
bigdog16 said:
It hasn’t even been a full year since the 2024 draft. You have no clue who ends up having good careers. Go back to obsessing over the Brick tournament
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The point of making a list is to predict the players selected.

I've never seen you do better than me. Besides, I've never seen you contribute anything to the site except keep the fights going.

Your last comment proves it.

Yes, I love watching the Brick, and ?

I think it's cultural. When I play on chess.com, 98% of the players who create clashes in my games are white North Americans and Brits, even though they only represent 2% of my adversaries. Here, that's practically all there is, and the site is consumed by it. I sense a desire to crush others online. Probably linked to the inability to do so in real life.

Let's talk about your obsession with crushing Finnish supporters. It's toxic.
 
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